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I would have needed to replace the battery, it was draining very quickly when the phone was used.
I didn't really want to put any money towards that.

I used it a lot before Christmas, more than usual, and that kind of sealed its fate ;-)
 
Yeah surely the only advantage of an 8 over a Xʀ is the 3D Touch if you really care about that..? Unless you’re a touch ID beats face ID type person?
 
Face ID is probably the biggest upgrade there has ever been on any iPhone.

Really? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I think going from entering a password to Touch ID was a much bigger upgrade, as was going from original resolution to retina, and the addition of gps, video recording, and the front-facing camera.
 
Yeah surely the only advantage of an 8 over a Xʀ is the 3D Touch if you really care about that..? Unless you’re a touch ID beats face ID type person?

Actually, The telephoto lens is probably more of a significant feature than 3D Touch for most consumers, who have no idea how to even utilize 3D Touch, or what it is. The problem with 3D Touch in its existence, Apple doesn’t let consumers know what 3D Touch is, versus how they market the camera during keynotes, commercials, etc.
 
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Finally upgraded. Wanted to already last year, but then decided to wait for the "S"-phones...and ended up buying the XR. Ah, well.
The worst thing about these new phones: that silly camera-lens bump on the back.
I often have my phone sitting on the desk and now it does not lay flat! I had kind of repressed this fact.

Is there some sort of coaster or washer (with a cut-out for the camera) for this purpose, so I can lay it on my desk and it's flat?
I don't intend to put it in a case - I didn't buy it in ProductRED just to hide the color in a case.
And it's a big-ass phone anyway. No need to make it even bigger with a case.

Never had 3d touch, never had touch-id, never had more than one camera on each side - so I'm not missing anything. And I just paid 539 CHF for it (plus 10 or so for the headphone-jack adaptor). The joys of carrier-subsidies...

Now, the Apple Empire will of course strike back and release an SE-successor in March that is both small and great and cheaper.

You seem pretty unimpressed, going from a 4s to an XR is a huge jump.

Maybe check out some of the android phones next?
 
How is the 8 better than the XR? Lol.

Face ID is probably the biggest upgrade there has ever been on any iPhone. And then there’s the beautiful design/colours and incredible battery life

Face ID doesn't hold a candle to touch iD, requires to many extra steps like swiping up. And I'll cave a little, the back design fo the XR is okay, but the front with that ugly notch... no way. Every time I pick up my friend's I see the ugly notch, he says it doesn't bother him, but I could never use a device with that. The iPhone 8 just looks so much better because there are no distractions. The 8 plus, which is what I have has amazing battery life, right on par with the XR, if not better. I'm not one of these "people" who has facebook or some other stupid social media app bogging down my battery.
 
Congrats to you on your new XR! Also you have my respect for keeping your 4s for as long as you did. I would use a nice clear case. It will show your red nicely plus eliminate the camera bump problem and help protect your new phone. That's what I did with my 6s and it has protected my phone on several drops.
 
You seem pretty unimpressed, going from a 4s to an XR is a huge jump.

Maybe check out some of the android phones next?


I don't have a Google account and no intention of creating one.

The camera bump is really the worst thing. Everything else is nice.

The 4S was still usable, but it was very slow, almost an inconvenience.

The XR is much better - though having to handle the thing like it's one of the lost Fabergé eggs you happened to find at a garage sale, I don't think I'll ever get over *that*
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Congrats to you on your new XR! Also you have my respect for keeping your 4s for as long as you did. I would use a nice clear case. It will show your red nicely plus eliminate the camera bump problem and help protect your new phone. That's what I did with my 6s and it has protected my phone on several drops.


I'm naive. I don't plan on dropping it.
;-)
 
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My Product Red XR with the black Mujjo leather case - slim fit, and zero wobble when placed face-up. These pics were taken shortly after launch day, and the case is still pristine today.

The leather is barely thicker than the camera bump, which is perfect for me. If you ever decide a case isn't such a bad idea, I would definitely recommend this one.

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Face ID doesn't hold a candle to touch iD, requires to many extra steps like swiping up. And I'll cave a little, the back design fo the XR is okay, but the front with that ugly notch... no way. Every time I pick up my friend's I see the ugly notch, he says it doesn't bother him, but I could never use a device with that. The iPhone 8 just looks so much better because there are no distractions. The 8 plus, which is what I have has amazing battery life, right on par with the XR, if not better. I'm not one of these "people" who has facebook or some other stupid social media app bogging down my battery.

The 8, and in particular the fugly surfboard that is the 8 plus, are legacy technology. The XR is in a completely different league, gorgeous design and colours, and anything that doesn’t use faceid seems antiquated at this point
 
An "opinion" that will LOUDLY be enforced on this website as long as I'm a member! Now that's a fact!

And that’s totally fine as long as the opinion is backed up at least with some accompanying information on why you happen to have it. Folks just shouting xyz is better with no further elaboration are not helpful to the discussion.
 
Never really seen anyone so resentful about upgrading, why would you buy a phone you clearly dislike?

Buy a thin clear case, no wobble, still see the colour. But if I was so unhappy with a phone I'd return it and look elsewhere.
 
Never really seen anyone so resentful about upgrading, why would you buy a phone you clearly dislike?

I dislike one or two aspects of it.
The rest is good.

Buy a thin clear case, no wobble, still see the colour. But if I was so unhappy with a phone I'd return it and look elsewhere.

The XR is the best compromise of the iPhones available. There's no point in returning it.
It doesn't work that way here anyway. The only way I could have returned it is by sending it back unopened.
 
OP, get yourself a nice wireless charging pad or stand. Either will serve both to make the camera bump irrelevant while also topping off the battery. It’s win/win and cheaper than most cases too.

Face ID doesn't hold a candle to touch iD, requires to many extra steps like swiping up. And I'll cave a little, the back design fo the XR is okay, but the front with that ugly notch... no way. Every time I pick up my friend's I see the ugly notch, he says it doesn't bother him, but I could never use a device with that. The iPhone 8 just looks so much better because there are no distractions. The 8 plus, which is what I have has amazing battery life, right on par with the XR, if not better. I'm not one of these "people" who has facebook or some other stupid social media app bogging down my battery.

Then how about you go about using your 8 plus and enjoying it for *your* uses, rather than trying evangelize everyone that prefers the more modern iPhone harder than an under-quota Mormon at the end of the month?

We get that you like the 8 Plus. But you’re blatantly derailing a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with your preference, the 8 plus, or which model is best.
 
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The 8, and in particular the fugly surfboard that is the 8 plus, are legacy technology. The XR is in a completely different league, gorgeous design and colours, and anything that doesn’t use faceid seems antiquated at this point

Well, that's taking it too far in the other direction now

The biggest advantage of FaceID is that it requires one less mechanical input step than touch ID, and its much more seamless for passwords. But it is not a perfect solution either, and Touch ID has its benefits too. I'm not saying TouchID is superior but to say it is antiquated isn't correct either, since FaceID still has practical drawbacks. The iPad Pro 10.5 and older you can still use seamlessly on a flat surface, which is not the same for the new expensive FaceID iPads, and that is a step back. I cannot use my 12.9 iPad Pro 2018 model without looking at the FaceID camera, setting it upright, or entering a passcode if I'm using it flat on a table, which is key for note taking. If you're consuming media or standing up its not an issue, but many people use their iPads on a flat surface as well. I'm sure Apple will fix that with a future FaceID camera but it doesn't help with the current models today.

With respect to the design of the XR, the general design of the device is the same as the 8/8+...it uses the same 7000 series aluminum, also has a glass back, and literally feels the same in the hand just in a different dimension. You can tell Apple reused certain elements of their 8 supply chain to help with costs. The screen is great on the XR, yes but its the same PPI LCD as the 8 and a bit lower resolution the 8 plus. Its effectively the same technology marketed differently. I can tell you the iPhone 7 Plus LCD and the XR LCD are by no means in different leagues, and the 8 Plus is more in line with the tech in the XR display (the true tone aspect). Both have the same curved design with pill shaped buttons that has existed since the iPhone 6/6 Plus. The all screen design is the biggest thing, as is the tap to wake from sleep (for me that is a genuinely useful feature, that I have become so used to and can't go back to older phones for). But different leagues....that is a stretch. Further the internals, there is a minor difference between the A11 and A12 both in benchmarks and the real world, and the RAM in the 8 Plus and the XR is the exact same kind and type of LPDDR4 ram. Exact same.

I digress, and sorry for the derailment but the "completely different league" statement isn't fair to the previous gen iPhones, nor accurate to state

For the OP though, coming from a phone without Touch ID, it's a moot point. The XR must feel like entering a new dimension lol. Much larger screen, significantly better battery life, significantly faster and significantly better photo/video cameras. Many, many iPhone generations of improvements compounded must make it that much more impressive. Apps that you don't need to refresh. Gestures for switching between apps is also huge. And of course, FaceID and iOS 12 are big jumps in function over passcode/swipe to unlock and iOS 9.

Still super cool they went this long with the 4S. Now that is value, and a testament to how long an Apple product can last if you push it!
 
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OP, get yourself a nice wireless charging pad or stand. Either will serve both to make the camera bump irrelevant while also topping off the battery. It’s win/win and cheaper than most cases too.



Then how about you go about using your 8 plus and enjoying it for *your* uses, rather than trying evangelize everyone that prefers the more modern iPhone harder than an under-quota Mormon at the end of the month?

We get that you like the 8 Plus. But you’re blatantly derailing a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with your preference, the 8 plus, or which model is best.

I will. But if I could pick any phone to use, it wouldn't be the 8 Plus, it would be the iPhone 5 running iOS 6. Of course that isn't an option anymore because developers are full of themselves and stopped supporting it.
 
I will. But if I could pick any phone to use, it wouldn't be the 8 Plus, it would be the iPhone 5 running iOS 6. Of course that isn't an option anymore because developers are full of themselves and stopped supporting it.
You’re not only spamming up a thread, but you’re also painfully ill-informed. Apple stopped supporting non-64 bit devices, and therefore developers had to do so as well. You can still run an iPhone 5 on iOS 6 if you want to stay in the Stone Age, but you’re in a staggeringly small minority, especially when the SE is everything the 5 was, but better and modern.
 
You’re not only spamming up a thread, but you’re also painfully ill-informed. Apple stopped supporting non-64 bit devices, and therefore developers had to do so as well. You can still run an iPhone 5 on iOS 6 if you want to stay in the Stone Age, but you’re in a staggeringly small minority, especially when the SE is everything the 5 was, but better and modern.

I agree that the SE is better, but not software wise. iOS 6 was beautiful and golden in my eyes. Apple literally ruined it from top to bottom with iOS 7 redesign because the cry babies were tired of the old “stale, boring, and dated” look. Every time I used iOS 6 I liked it more. I refuse to accept accept iOS 7, like every one else did. Unfortunately in this time, one doesn’t have a choice. But you better believe I hung onto my 5 with iOS6 for years after ios 7 launched.
 
I will. But if I could pick any phone to use, it wouldn't be the 8 Plus, it would be the iPhone 5 running iOS 6. Of course that isn't an option anymore because developers are full of themselves and stopped supporting it.

So what you’re saying, is that there really shouldn’t be any advancements in iOS, such as security, stability and optimization, those are three ingredients that are needed to continue to build and evolve software, but for whatever reason, you’re stuck in the notion that developers want to just ‘Stop supporting things because they’re full of themselves’. That seems more like logical fallacy to me.
 
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