Compiled MBA email to SJ

[Gruber]

Dont misunderestimate yourself

You guys are not less important than someone at Intel. You are a bunch of kids in a well-traveled rumor site, which is read by lots of people at Intel and elsewhere. You are a vital part of Apple's marketing strategy. What you feel and think is hugely important. Maybe not always at face value, because you only represent a small fraction of the market, but as part of the bigger picture.

So my bet would be that an open letter to Steve, written in a friendly and civil tone, is very likely to be read. Ideally, it should be phrased in such a way as to merit citations by other media (i.e., generates a headline elsewhere: "Apple fans united, clamoring for new ultraportable").

 

[psychjoe]

This thread epitomises everything that is wrong with fanboys.

 

[Zulu1]

I'd pay good money for an early prototype of the ai...."did you hear that?"


Wait gotta go....nevermind...

 

[hitekalex]

This thread epitomises everything that is wrong with fanboys.

LOL.. totally! 3 pages of mind numbing word parsing and bickering on whether Jobs is best addressed as "Dear Steve" or "Mr Jobs".. Wow.

Newsflash for you all.. The chances of SJ replying to any of your emails is practically nil.. as in zero. My guess is that sjobs@apple.com gets hit with about 10,000 external emails a day.. these emails get screened by a team of his personal assistants, and most of the emails get discarded.. Then SJ might randomly eyeball the subjects of surviving mails, of which he may pick 1-2 a week to respond depending on his mood. So the likelihood of you getting a response is somewhere on the order of 1 in 50,000, but probably less.

Whether you write "a MacRumors open letter".. craft some letter by committee.. or each write your own e-mail.. doesn't matter all that much with such low probability. Go ahead and send him a few quick lines if it makes you feel better.. But I wouldn't hold my breath for a response.

 

[Santabean2000]

Newsflash for you all.. The chances of SJ replying to any of your emails is practically nil.. as in zero. My guess is that sjobs@apple.com gets hit with about 10,000 external emails a day.. these emails get screened by a team of his personal assistants, and most of the emails get discarded.. Then SJ might randomly eyeball the subjects of surviving mails, of which he may pick 1-2 a week to respond depending on his mood. So the likelihood of you getting a response is somewhere on the order of 1 in 50,000, but probably less.

You're prob right. I have emailed that address in the past when I was having issues with my iMac; it was redirected to the regional manager, (who, eventually, got me my spanking new i7).

I suspect that the regional mangers (and whoever else filters these emails) prob have to to report general trends/common issues being raised. These are (usually) then eventually addressed by a general statement, eg "yes there were yellow tint issues. yes we have fixed them".

Occasionally Steve might check through the common inbox, but I suspect the more likely scenario is that he requests a succinct example from the masses that captures the essence of the issue that he then responds to in his own unique way.

I believe the only way to get a response from Apple, (and perhaps Steve), would be not to write one collective email, but rather 1000, or better yet 10,000/100,000 succinct, polite emails.

(And can we ask about the progress of the 15", twin SSD, 4-8GB RAM, high-res non glossy display model while we're at it.)

Cheers

 

[Gruber]

I believe the only way to get a response from Apple, (and perhaps Steve), would be not to write one collective email, but rather 1000, or better yet 10,000/100,000 succinct, polite emails.

Don't. I work in a hardware company where we are confronted with the decision on how to act on customer responses. We listen quite acutely to what people are saying, and Apple is certainly doing exactly the same thing: monitoring Twitter, blogs and news, browsing the feeds of the relevant forums. To derive the same market intelligence by conventional means, one had to spend many hours handing out survey sheets in malls in Nebraska. It is always wise to listen to what your customers have to say.

If a few hundred people write an open letter to His Steveness, it surely gets read. (If the best course of action would be a direct response is another matter, of course.) This is probably not a lottery, but a normal screening process, and most decisions are handled by a policy given out by a PR expert in accordance to current marketing goals.

So if you are writing 10000 similar emails, you are given a tenthousandfold chance on the jackpot, but a new email filter rule.

 

[Gruber]

This thread epitomises everything that is wrong with fanboys.

There is nothing wrong with fanboys, from Apple's point of view at least. They are the cornerstone of the market, the early adopters corner stone.

And personally, I like fanboys (and fangirls) much more than trolls.

 

[Santabean2000]

If a few hundred people write an open letter to His Steveness, it surely gets read. (If the best course of action would be a direct response is another matter, of course.) This is probably not a lottery, but a normal screening process, and most decisions are handled by a policy given out by a PR expert in accordance to current marketing goals.

So if you are writing 10000 similar emails, you are given a tenthousandfold chance on the jackpot, but a new email filter rule.

Didn't mean it to sound like I was suggesting spamin, but rather just encouraging everyone on this forum interested in hearing something about a new MBA to send an inquiry in and encourage others to do so too; different people, different email, different parts of the world.

If enough people do really care, then Steve might dare a response.

 

[Eric M]

just emailed...

rather than trying to figure out how to word a perfect email to His Highness SJ, I just sent him a quick email from my .mac account linking to this thread...let's see what happens
will post the reply - if I get any

let the force be...well, you know...

 

[PsyD4Me]

rather than trying to figure out how to word a perfect email to His Highness SJ, I just sent him a quick email from my .mac account linking to this thread...let's see what happens
will post the reply - if I get any

let the force be...well, you know...

i don't think he'll respond to that...the point of this thread was to shoot him one witty and to the point email....he's not gonna sit there and sift through all the posts...time is money

 

[psychjoe]

There is nothing wrong with fanboys, from Apple's point of view at least. They are the cornerstone of the market, the early adopters corner stone.

And personally, I like fanboys (and fangirls) much more than trolls.

You right. And at least whilst they're posting on here, they're not breeding.

 

[Scottsdale]

rather than trying to figure out how to word a perfect email to His Highness SJ, I just sent him a quick email from my .mac account linking to this thread...let's see what happens
will post the reply - if I get any

let the force be...well, you know...

That sucks.

I will never waste my time replying to one of your posts ever after this one. You should leave others out of your actions. If you want to send an email that's your business and you being inconsiderate and not caring to be a part of the group, but to include others here without that being in everyone's best interest and without all of their consent in this being the correct action, is wrong. I would have never mentioned this and never would have typed a single post here had I known this would happen.

I am really disappointed with people like you who take it on their own to decide for everyone else not just how a situation should be handled but then share the process with the recipient. Do anything but include a link to the thread where people were sharing ideas to send to the recipient. That is disgusting! Your actions are disgusting!

You are what is wrong with people sharing in a situation like this at MR. Everyone is trying to work together and you don't just go on your own you go report about what everyone is thinking and tell on everyone.

If you get a reply, go ahead and keep it to yourself. I don't want to be any part of anything you have done to all of the members here.

If anyone gets a reply, how about you PM it to everyone who was a positive part of this thread rather than sharing with people like this person! Do not share with this person.

I hope everyone here will do the same thing and ignore this poster for the inconsiderate actions here. I still cannot believe you not only did what you wanted but linked to everyone's ideas and the decision-making process included here. How DISGUSTING! Sounds like an immature action and one who only cares for herself.

If I get a reply I will be sending PMs to everyone who is/was a positive part of this thread. I encourage all of you to do the exact same.

I still cannot believe this. I believed that many would go write emails on their own wanting to be a hero and get the reply, but I would have never thought someone would sink this low to somehow be a hero and tell on everyone? Like a hero to get a reply and share making fun of everyone who posted here? What on Earth would make someone think it's acceptable to link to this thread and what everyone else shared in confidence of a group effort to send an email?

I am just amazed at the inconsiderate action here. I cannot believe it. I am shocked. I guess I shouldn't be shocked as their are inconsiderate people everywhere, but still I expected more from the forum members here...

 

[miggitymac]

Cue emo much?

What on Earth would make someone think it's acceptable to link to this thread and what everyone else shared in confidence of a group effort to send an email?

Not sure if you're aware of this, but when you post something on an online forum, you can't control what happens to it. No such thing as "in confidence" when thousands of people have access to what you're saying.

I am just amazed at the inconsiderate action here. I cannot believe it. I am shocked. I guess I shouldn't be shocked as their are inconsiderate people everywhere, but still I expected more from the forum members here...

This part made me laugh...you've been a member for a long time...and after seeing all the "which sleeve is the best?", "i dropped my mbp in the toilet...will applecare cover me?", threads, you expected a lot, huh?

Everyone just calm down and be patient...it's been LESS THAN A YEAR since the last MBA was released. Let's not freak out and get all korean drama!

Edit: Besides, as many have said, the probability of Eric M's email actually being read by Steve Jobs is pretty low. And even if he does read it, it's not like he's going to be "look at this thread...this just pisses me off...CANCEL ALL MBA PRODUCTION IMMEDIATELY!"

 

[roxygal9]

That sucks.

I will never waste my time replying to one of your posts ever after this one. You should leave others out of your actions. If you want to send an email that's your business and you being inconsiderate and not caring to be a part of the group, but to include others here without that being in everyone's best interest and without all of their consent in this being the correct action, is wrong. I would have never mentioned this and never would have typed a single post here had I known this would happen.

I am really disappointed with people like you who take it on their own to decide for everyone else not just how a situation should be handled but then share the process with the recipient. Do anything but include a link to the thread where people were sharing ideas to send to the recipient. That is disgusting! Your actions are disgusting!

You are what is wrong with people sharing in a situation like this at MR. Everyone is trying to work together and you don't just go on your own you go report about what everyone is thinking and tell on everyone.

If you get a reply, go ahead and keep it to yourself. I don't want to be any part of anything you have done to all of the members here.

If anyone gets a reply, how about you PM it to everyone who was a positive part of this thread rather than sharing with people like this person! Do not share with this person.

I hope everyone here will do the same thing and ignore this poster for the inconsiderate actions here. I still cannot believe you not only did what you wanted but linked to everyone's ideas and the decision-making process included here. How DISGUSTING! Sounds like an immature action and one who only cares for herself.

If I get a reply I will be sending PMs to everyone who is/was a positive part of this thread. I encourage all of you to do the exact same.

I still cannot believe this. I believed that many would go write emails on their own wanting to be a hero and get the reply, but I would have never thought someone would sink this low to somehow be a hero and tell on everyone? Like a hero to get a reply and share making fun of everyone who posted here? What on Earth would make someone think it's acceptable to link to this thread and what everyone else shared in confidence of a group effort to send an email?

I am just amazed at the inconsiderate action here. I cannot believe it. I am shocked. I guess I shouldn't be shocked as their are inconsiderate people everywhere, but still I expected more from the forum members here...

I agree with Scottsdale, though. As far as I knew we had not made a determination in who/what/how we were going to send the email to Jobs. And really what se should say, and get his attention. I certainly took it as a group effort, to bad .

Having said that, should we now compose an email to send? Like I mentioned before i have an @army.mil account. And given the Army's recent interest in Macs, may spark his curiosity if coming from a .mil address with a catchy subject perhaps?

NOt sure i kinda get the feeling Steve is a liberal

 

[Scottsdale]

I agree with Scottsdale, though. As far as I knew we had not made a determination in who/what/how we were going to send the email to Jobs. And really what se should say, and get his attention. I certainly took it as a group effort, to bad .

Having said that, should we now compose an email to send? Like I mentioned before i have an @army.mil account. And given the Army's recent interest in Macs, may spark his curiosity if coming from a .mil address with a catchy subject perhaps?

NOt sure i kinda get the feeling Steve is a liberal

It is obvious anyone CAN do anything with whatever we post here, but don't you find it disappointing someone would think it's acceptable to not just go on their own but to link to our thread discussing it?

We know anyone can do anything they want with our thread here, but we EXPECT more from a forum member than to not just forget about the group but also report and link to the group idea.

I don't even want any part of the message that EricM sent. It isn't a matter if someone can do something it's a matter of someone thinking it's acceptable to screw over the group for her own best interests.

I am disgusted... I just expected more or better from the people here. I hope you did too RoxyGal.

 

[Duncanreally]

I agree with Scottsdale too. But I'm not as upset as he is!

So can we agree a final wording, or has this whole thing turned sour?

Duncan

 

[psychjoe]

I emailed Steve a link to this thread - here's his reply:

Do those guys creep you out too?

S
Sent from my iPad.

 

[miggitymac]

I emailed Steve a link to this thread - here's his reply:

Great...Scottsdale's gonna be disgusted. Again.

How DARE you not take this email as seriously as the other members here? Especially when the topic is so important?! Have you not heard?! IT'S ALMOST BEEN AN ENTIRE YEAR SINCE THE MBA's LAST REFRESH!!!!

If we don't get this JUST right the whole friggin' world will...well...it'll be EXACTLY THE EFFIN SAME! Except for a sensitive few who will be brought to tears I imagine...

 

[Scottsdale]

I emailed Steve a link to this thread - here's his reply:

LMAO... nice way to make fun of this disaster.

Great...Scottsdale's gonna be disgusted. Again.

How DARE you not take this email as seriously as the other members here? Especially when the topic is so important?! Have you not heard?! IT'S ALMOST BEEN AN ENTIRE YEAR SINCE THE MBA's LAST REFRESH!!!!

If we don't get this JUST right the whole friggin' world will...well...it'll be EXACTLY THE EFFIN SAME! Except for a sensitive few who will be brought to tears I imagine...

It is not about that... it's about someone being so inconsiderate to the other members here. Like I said before, if he wants to go email Jobs, I expect that... but I think it's really wrong and disgusting to link this page. This behavior will just make people not share here or trust the group anymore... not just about this about everything. It's like the person who goes and tells on everyone else to mom or teacher all of the time... it's sad. There always has to be one rotten Apple that spoils the whole thread, pun intended.

No this thread isn't all that important or anything, but people made fun of Steve here, and if one thinks that is the way to get a reply, you're dead wrong. If anything Steve is far less likely to reply to any MBA question anytime soon.

Obviously none of this really matters to anyone but us here. If we were willing to discuss the best way to make contact, it was definitely obvious we weren't planning on sharing the process we went through to make contact.

At the end of the day, I hope Steve doesn't read that email, or look at the link, or reply to it. That is what would be best for all of us.


One last thing... I guess this falls under the category if you don't want something shared with the wrong person, don't post it on the Internet. Our bad for believing all here are part of the group or cause.

 

[Scottsdale]

delete duplicate

 

[psychjoe]

LMAO... nice way to make fun of this disaster.

Are you saying I really shouldn't have emailed this to Jobs & Ives?

 

[Huubster]

This thread has run it's mind boggling course already a while ago.

Since people can attack individuals on this forum without any moderation, I would like to mention a famous saying instead.

Silence is the genius of fools and one of the virtues of the wise.

 

[Veinticinco]

Scottsdale, I know you think I am here to bait you (not true, we used to get on fine) but just a few words to the wise.

Firstly, take a breath and pop a pill. If (by including an MR link) there is a more guaranteed method for getting an email addressed to Jobs deleted by one of his PR flunkeys then I have yet to hear of it. So relax Marathon Man, yes it IS safe.

Secondly, the added benefit for you is that Stevie will never read this thread and your posts herein, which means you at least have not ruined your dreams of ever getting a response from him. A little cringeworthy, not your finest hour.

Even leaving aside your emo rant at the kid who acted inappropriately (bad form I agree), you then used in all sincerity the word "disaster" to describe this scenario. Honestly, have a word with yourself in the mirror. You've stepped over the line and lost all sense of perspective. A disaster? Really? Pick up a newspaper or your new iPad my friend and read the global section.

I used to enjoy your musings, usually intelligent and thought-provoking. But I think you've crossed the line into pub bore/crazed nutter territory, and I find myself skipping the majority of your long-winded and ultra-intense posts these days. A shame but there you have it. I have no doubt you're probably a very decent guy in real life, but your persona on here has become too much for my stomach to bear.

I want an MBA as much as anyone here, but it's just an effing laptop at the end of the day.

 

[Veinticinco]

Silence is the genius of fools and one of the virtues of the wise.

I much prefer "it's better to say nothing and appear stupid, than to speak and remove all doubt"

 

[jdechko]

I much prefer "it's better to say nothing and appear stupid, than to speak and remove all doubt"

One of my favorite quotes.

Anyway, I agree that we should all pop a pill and take a minute to think about what's going on here. I'll admit, I can see the aggravation from not knowing when a refresh is coming and so we're looking for some slight glimmer of hope that we're still on Steve's mind.

But we might not be on his mind at all. After all, there's the iPad launch, and the new iPhone and OS 4.0/WWDC coming up. Fortunately, Apple is more than just iPads and iPhones, and I'm sure that whatever the case, the MBA is in very capable hands, just not Steve's.

For those of you who just cannot wait any longer, we would all be more than happy to provide you with some viable alternatives, sometimes better, sometimes not, but they are currently shipping alternatives nonetheless. We wish you the best in whatever you decide. For those of you who are just getting here and those who choose to remain, please sit back and enjoy the wild speculation of what the future will bring. I refer you to all of the many other threads if you want to read up on, or add to, the speculation about the next Air.

This is starting to get as bad as all of the PowerBook G5 (which I hear is coming this Tuesday) threads were.