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hachre

macrumors 6502a
Sep 26, 2007
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I plan on giving my Dell Mini the "Office Space" trashing it so well deserves. I hate that stupid thing and am quite happy to replace it with my Netb...uhhh....Shiny Apple Product. :)

Please film that ;P And put the same music under it ;D
 

Paix247

macrumors 6502
Jul 26, 2006
363
1
Minneapolis
Returning my 11"

I ordered an 11" - it will be here Wednesday. I already have a return authorization number for it. After testing them at the Apple Store and seeing how incredibly quiet the speakers are compared to the 13" Air. I considered getting the 13" at this point, but after I add 4GB of RAM the price is too high for such a low powered machine. I found a 15" i5 Antiglare (which makes it lighter) for $1,649 on the refurbished section. No contest!
 

hachre

macrumors 6502a
Sep 26, 2007
690
43
I ordered an 11" - it will be here Wednesday. I already have a return authorization number for it. After testing them at the Apple Store and seeing how incredibly quiet the speakers are compared to the 13" Air. I considered getting the 13" at this point, but after I add 4GB of RAM the price is too high for such a low powered machine. I found a 15" i5 Antiglare (which makes it lighter) for $1,649 on the refurbished section. No contest!

So you were going from the smallest and most light offering they have to the second largest and heaviest? Okay..
 

Paix247

macrumors 6502
Jul 26, 2006
363
1
Minneapolis
So you were going from the smallest and most light offering they have to the second largest and heaviest? Okay..

The antiglare screen makes it significantly lighter than the standard glass models. Plus, I freaked out at the thought that I would be buying my slowest computer since my 12" PB. Slower than my 1.83GHz MB Core Duo from 4.5 years ago.
 

hachre

macrumors 6502a
Sep 26, 2007
690
43
The antiglare screen makes it significantly lighter than the standard glass models. Plus, I freaked out at the thought that I would be buying my slowest computer since my 12" PB. Slower than my 1.83GHz MB Core Duo from 4.5 years ago.

Ah, it removes the glass panel. Okay... Well it depends on what you do really... But having a SSD has made the biggest impact for me speed wise in the last 15 years. I'm not worried about CPU speed.
 

Paix247

macrumors 6502
Jul 26, 2006
363
1
Minneapolis
Ah, it removes the glass panel. Okay... Well it depends on what you do really... But having a SSD has made the biggest impact for me speed wise in the last 15 years. I'm not worried about CPU speed.

Very true. I had on in my previous MBP for a short time. As soon as they come down i price a bit more, I'll be getting one for my new machine. SSDs rock!
 

Shanpdx

macrumors 68030
Sep 24, 2008
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Blazer town!
I ordered an 11" - it will be here Wednesday. I already have a return authorization number for it. After testing them at the Apple Store and seeing how incredibly quiet the speakers are compared to the 13" Air. I considered getting the 13" at this point, but after I add 4GB of RAM the price is too high for such a low powered machine. I found a 15" i5 Antiglare (which makes it lighter) for $1,649 on the refurbished section. No contest!

or you may want to wait and see what the next refresh of 13" MBP/MacBook brings?

you *might* have all the performance of MBP and the features of MBA.
 

zartemis

macrumors member
Oct 23, 2010
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Now cut that out!:) More seriously, I fear that the use of the word "netbook to describe the 11 inch MBA is an ill-concealed cheap shot at those who have bought the 11 inch MBA. A cynic might call that the politics of envy.

What about those of us who have an 11 inch already ordered (mine should arrive on the 27th) who happily and contentedly consider it a 'netbook'?

It's my new upgraded netbook. "Ultra portable laptop" is just too precious now that the category of ultralights is becoming so ubiquitous.
 

hachre

macrumors 6502a
Sep 26, 2007
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According to dict.leo.org, this word exists in German as well ... :)

(I did not know the word either, in none of the languages)

Yea because it's of latin descent. Pretty much every latin word "exists" in German. But it's veerrrrrryyy uncommon :)
 

gwsat

macrumors 68000
Apr 12, 2008
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Tulsa
What about those of us who have an 11 inch already ordered (mine should arrive on the 27th) who happily and contentedly consider it a 'netbook'?

It's my new upgraded netbook. "Ultra portable laptop" is just too precious now that the category of ultralights is becoming so ubiquitous.
I thought I had made clear that my problem with those who called the 11 inch MBA a "netbook" was that they were doing so in order to needle those of you who had ordered one. I accept that if one uses the word "netbook" in a way that it hasn't been used before so that it includes small and lightweight computers that have internal components matching those in larger computers and a full sized keyboard, too, then I agree with you that the new 11 inch MBA is a netbook.
 

blairh

macrumors 603
Dec 11, 2007
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Might want to read your links tough guy. The second link even makes a point that calling the M11x a netbook is ridiculous. Because, well, it isn't.

Also go read Engadget's review for the Lenovo. Guess what they call it? Here's a hint: not a netbook.

C2D's are not netbooks. End of story. Thanks for playing!
 

ReallyBigFeet

macrumors 68030
Apr 15, 2010
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Decent example, but since I'm accustomed to using a Hi-Res display on my current 15" MBP (1680x1050), I found that both of the new MBA Netbooks looked a little cloudy by comparison, with the 11" looking both cloudy and cramped when scrolling the same page or trying to load an embedded video that wouldn't quite fit into the window without cropping off the top or bottom.

It will just take some getting used to I guess.
 

zartemis

macrumors member
Oct 23, 2010
37
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I accept that if one uses the word "netbook" in a way that it hasn't been used before so that it includes small and lightweight computers that have internal components matching those in larger computers and a full sized keyboard, too, then I agree with you that the new 11 inch MBA is a netbook.

The MBA does lack standard features of larger computers: no optical drive, no ethernet port, lack of ability to use standard format drives (the Dell Mini 9 had only support for pci-e ssd drives, the MBA introduces a new flash format connector), and lack of support for standard RAM (even the dell mini 9 could be upgraded with standard RAM).

Interesting side note: I'm using my current netbook, a Dell Mini 9, to type this at a restaurant.
 

rspeaker

macrumors 6502
Jan 1, 2006
276
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The antiglare screen makes it significantly lighter than the standard glass models. Plus, I freaked out at the thought that I would be buying my slowest computer since my 12" PB. Slower than my 1.83GHz MB Core Duo from 4.5 years ago.

"Slowest computer" probably depends on how you use your machine. I have a 1.83GHz iMac CD, 2GB RAM, and it scores 110 in XBench. Most apps take 5-10 seconds to open.

Conversely, 11" 1.4GHz MBA's, with 2GB RAM, are scoring ~125 in XBench. 13" 1.86GHz, 2GB RAM, are scoring ~160 in XBench. And on both new MBA's, apps take 2-3 seconds to open.

Real-world use, MBA's are faster than our old Core Duo systems. Now, if you use Handbrake, Photoshop, etc, THEN it would definitely be slower...
 
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