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I'd suggest not commenting, if I am beneath your talking to me. Try it, and be the bigger man.
java is part of the reason android needs more ram... but android also does true multi-tasking, unlike ios which freezes apps that aren't on the screen.
which is why android can run many apps at once, in the background or run 4 apps at once on the screen, while ios is stuck to 1 app and 1 app only.
which is why android can run many apps at once, in the background or run 4 apps at once on the screen, while ios is stuck to 1 app and 1 app only.
All of these reasons are the exact reasons I switched to iOS. Way too much fiddling around with customizations and settings.
he's part of the "it just works" apple club.
my perspective on that is that the "it just works" philosophy should mean cheaper prices than mainstream electronics overall.
why pay a premium price for "it just works"? apple products feel like you are renting rather than owning.
my perspective on that is that the "it just works" philosophy should mean cheaper prices than mainstream electronics overall.
why pay a premium price for "it just works"? apple products feel like you are renting rather than owning.
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It's a perfect tool for backend systems but for consumer apps which depends heavily on UX it's just not the right tool to use.
Ever heard of something like RubyMotion ? The performance loss is really really smal it performs faster than the Swift in its current form. Google could have gone with something like this instead of using Java as a glue.
But he is kind of right...java is too memory intensive, GC kills your phone that's the reason you need so much ram.
It's a perfect tool for backend systems but for consumer apps which depends heavily on UX it's just not the right tool to use.
Ever heard of something like RubyMotion ? The performance loss is really really smal it performs faster than the Swift in its current form. Google could have gone with something like this instead of using Java as a glue.
That guys opinion is just as valid as anybody else's though.
I don't mind paying a premium for a device that gives me good service and has a good support network in regard to dedicated stores that offer replacements etc. It is also a device that can be backed up and restored very easily should a replacement be needed. I have always enjoyed a good level of service and I can sell the device at the end of my contract so it will cover the cost of my upgrade. In that respect I suppose it is a form of renting, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Nobody is forced to pay Apple's prices either as there is plenty of choice out there, often choice that is promoted by users as being better on here. Price shouldn't be a bone of contention really. Apple are not a charity or a manufacturer who aim to deliver value for money for those on a budget. Its a buyers market and if the product does not warrant the price tag then it will suffer as a result.
Not only do you not have to customize things if you don't want, taking some time to customize it really goes a long way. It's a device you use everyday, and if you can make that everyday experience easier and simpler and have the device cater to your wants and needs, that's something worth putting a little time into. And again, that's if you want to. You don't have to.
I suspect as Apple continues to open up iOS, iOS users will understand this advantage for themselves. Apple allowed 3rd party keyboards to be customizable, and look how many more people that can satisfy. Those who want to use the default keyboard, carry on as usual. Those who want to try Swype or Swiftkey or any of the other keyboard options out there, now can.
What more might people want to change as default if Apple were to open up iOS more? Maps? Mail? The browser?
EDIT: I want to add the ability to customize the Control Center would be nice. Again, this is so much more than just about looks. It's about functionality. I should be able to put whatever toggles I want to use in Control Center, instead of Apple dictating what toggles should be there.
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Or simple things like arranging the icons in any order and position you want! LOL
That too. How about ability to put widgets anywhere you want. I hated where the widgets were in iOS. It required me to pull down the notification center, then scroll down to the widget I want if it was on the bottom.
Or Control Center. There are things in there I'll never need to toggle. Likewise, I wish I could add specific toggles that I do want to use. iOS doesn't allow this. To be able to customize that is so much more than looks. It's functionality. Quick access to the functions you want. Not what Apple says you want.
There are probably more examples.
So you put the ones you look at most on top - similarly, you'd put your most used widgets in Android on the closest home screen....otherwise, you'd be scrolling through home screens to find the one you want if you put it on the 3rd or 4th....
Just out of curiosity, what DON'T you toggle that's already in the CC and what would you add?
But hey, I agree. Let users do what they want. I actually like how Apple implemented widgets because I can see them from the lock screen and never unlock my device. Quick glance info. But if people want to clutter their home screens, who am I to judge?
At the end of the day though, Android is a great alternative for those who want to customize and tinker. If that's your style, go Android. Seriously, plenty of great options out there. It seems odd that folks want to go out of their way to open up iOS and make it more like Android as if Android in itself isn't a good enough option.
Apple is in business to sell their products and services. If they feel the best way to do so is to keep their ecosystem closed, why fault them for that? If a consumer feels differently, he/she is welcome and easily able to go a different direction.
Obviously Apple is doing SOMETHING right....otherwise there would be a billion iOS devices in the wild.
Incorrect, Dalvik is a virtual machine that runs Dalvik byte code.
It is not even the same type of virtual machine than JVM, one is a register based one and the other is stack based.
And not taking into account ART
Oh cmon...Dalvik is just an optimized VM to run converted Java grammar. It builds on the same principles just enhancing few things here and there.
The same way i can take N grammar and use it via N VM i can use an N language and build an N VM specifically for my task.
Look up Rmotion and ARC vs GC.
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Yup, this one is a bit bewildering--why must icons automatically snap to the top? It can't be that difficult to allow free placement of icons.
This, coupled with the ability to choose different default apps and to a lesser extent, the ability to customize the Control Center, are the areas I'd personally like to see changed.
Don't see these as reasons to stay seeing as these services are available on every platform.
Play Store
Google Play Services Framework- I mention this because I assume you're referring to this as a benefit due to ability to quickly throw out security patches. Now, if you have a Nexus, then OS updates are irrelevant as well
Google Drive- Seeing as Apple literally copied it with iCloud Drive and full backup and restore is similar with 5.0 and even easier with tap and go.
Android Device Manager w/ Lockdown.
For me, I would say:
iMessage/Facetime- Because Apple keeps their apps proprietary. There really isnt anything as seamless as iMessage.
Camera- Because it's always a reliably good shot.
Yup, it's pretty much the Apple proprietary functionality that one would miss, especially if deeply immersed in the Apple ecosystem. Otherwise, much of the functionality can be duplicated cross platform.
That being said, I really love much of the propriety stuff (iMessage and most recently, iCloud Photos are at the top of the list) and am deeply immersed in the Apple ecosystem so I'd personally feel the effects of switching more than most in this subforum. But I've also used Android phone and tablets extensively over the past few years and can make me work just fine with my Apple gear if needed.
ios would be a lot better if it allowed you to switch default apps.
like when i click on a link on android, it doesn't open the samsung browser on a samsung phone, it opens chrome or firefox or any other i want. same for music and a lot of other things.
meh.
like when i click on a link on android, it doesn't open the samsung browser on a samsung phone, it opens chrome or firefox or any other i want. same for music and a lot of other things.
meh.
There are benefits of both OSes. I'd love to see a nice blend of software and hardware between the two competing platforms! We would all benefit from that!
I don't think the "default" app thing will ever change. Extensions are as far as Apple will go.
My guess, they don't want any third party app to have any power in their sandbox for security reasons. They also prefer to push people toward their own services, because (whether you agree or not) they feel the combination of their services and hardware provides the best possible experience and they want their devices to be the best.
Like I said, agree with it or not, that's the way it is. I've found that to be true for me, but I know others don't.
Hence Android, WP, choice.
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Amen
The only problem with something like this ever happening is that two competing ideologies would have to suddenly merge.
At that point, what made each unique and great would cease to exist and you'd be left with nothing special.
I think this "problem" of yours will never exist. It's not like iOS will ever be exactly like Android nor vice versa. Adopting features from each other that help make the experience better for both OS-es doesn't mean they'll both suddenly become the same exact thing. They would still be unique in their own ways of implementing said features.
To dissuade these desired features that users of iOS devices want sounds like just another excuse from you to apologize for Apple's lack of and/or refusal to add said features.
Let's take Control Center, for example. If Apple gave the users the power to customize what toggles they want there (something often requested by myself and others) to add/remove even re-order the Control Center, how does that suddenly make iOS' Control Center any less unique? It still looks, feels (pulling up instead of pulling down in Android) differently. There is no "problem" here that I can see.
iOS has added plenty of features that Android created and/or made popular. Likewise, Android has taken plenty of features iOS created and/or made popular. Yet no "problem" has come of this of people fearing iOS and Android are becoming the same or losing their own unique-ness. Quite the contrary. People have warmed to adding similar features to both OS-es. Android lately adding lock-screen notifications? It's great. Is it unique? It sure is. You can expand the notification, the cards look way different than the way iOS does it. Still unique.
I said this before, how much more satisfied might users be if Apple allowed even more freedom? Even just a little bit. How might users benefit from allowing to set default mail app, or default browser, or default map/navigation app? People are already happy about 3rd party keyboards. Why would there be any fear of losing unique-ness to allow more?
There would be none.