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Jimmy James

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It's funny to me how many people praise android for integration with google's services and criticize apple's inability to do email attachments from within the mail program.

I downloaded the gmail app for ios and it does attachments. However, I otherwise dislike that program and am happy to use the native mail program most of the time.
 

sentinelsx

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I noticed people down rate a lot when someone claims something so matter of factly but doesnt post links or pics. Especially if you say it had 3 hours of screen use. We all know it shows time and then each individual think like screen on is a percentage. So unless it was 100% screen use with 3 hours and the battery was about to die its impossible to know that without guessing quite a bit.

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That's not a notes battery just an example of the display.

errr...you can press on the screen percentage and it will show you the actual screen on time too. You know that right?
 

whynotgotovegas

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I always find this statement funny. Like Androids...dont work? ...LOL. Been almost two years and it's working fine for me. I just dont know what that statement means for those who say it.

If its a preference, just say that.

I think of it more as like syncing between devices, I download something on my iPad, it's on my iPhone. I take a picture on my iPhone, it's on my iPad. Vice versa. Stuff like that you don't need to worry about, it's very reliable and like he said, just works.
 

-aggie-

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I think of it more as like syncing between devices, I download something on my iPad, it's on my iPhone. I take a picture on my iPhone, it's on my iPad. Vice versa. Stuff like that you don't need to worry about, it's very reliable and like he said, just works.

If you want to put it into terms that apply to someone who just cares about that aspect, then yes, you're right, "it just works." However, at one time, you couldn't even cut, copy and paste on an iphone. Did it "just work" then? There are plenty of stuff that Apple still jails the user from using. Why do you think people jailbreak?

Like the poster you responded to stated, it's a preference. People have different preferences.
 

jeffe

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Juice defender disables your data, re-enabling it every 15 minutes (configurable) - allowing your apps to complete a data refresh and then it turns the data off again.

That's just one feature. It is fully customizable and does lots of stuff such as automatically switching on and off your wifi when you are near known access points, managing Bluetooth, gps connections, etc.


What did you mean about "getting your emails every 15 minutes or so?"


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Have you used either Android or the gmail app for android?

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It's funny to me how many people praise android for integration with google's services and criticize apple's inability to do email attachments from within the mail program.

I downloaded the gmail app for ios and it does attachments. However, I otherwise dislike that program and am happy to use the native mail program most of the time.
 

tekno

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Oct 15, 2011
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I'm bored of ios and hate my 4S - same old phone just with features I never use (Siri, iMessage etc) but one thing is stopping me switch.

I now like how iCloud autoupdates iCal entries. If I add one on iCal on my mac it appears on my iPhone and vice versa.

Could someone explain how this would work if I got a Galaxy S2?
 

ChazUK

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tekno said:
I'm bored of ios and hate my 4S - same old phone just with features I never use (Siri, iMessage etc) but one thing is stopping me switch.

I now like how iCloud autoupdates iCal entries. If I add one on iCal on my mac it appears on my iPhone and vice versa.

Could someone explain how this would work if I got a Galaxy S2?

Google Sync would do the trick.

http://www.google.com/sync/mac.html
 

mbell1975

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I had 6 Android phones over 4+ years. The HTC Hero, Evo 4G, Nexus S 4G, HTC Sensation, HTC Evo 3D and the Galaxy S2. I have always had Apple products too, everything but the iPhone. I love Android but its become far too fragmented with some apps only working with some phones and all types of different hardware. Carriers are extremely slow to update their phones. You could have a brand new phone running a nearly 2 year old version of Android. I had to buy several new phones (at full retail price) because the carrier decided to stop supporting them well before my 2 year contract was up. Apple still supports the 3Gs and its 3 years old. It got the new OS the same day the 4s got it. That kind of support is a dream in Android land, you will never see it. Google really need to improve things and set some rules before licensing their OS out to just anybody, but they never do. There are some things I miss about Android, but they are minor. I would much rather have the great battery life, more polished OS, timely updates and functionality of the iPhone instead.
 

Lindenhurst

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I think of it more as like syncing between devices, I download something on my iPad, it's on my iPhone. I take a picture on my iPhone, it's on my iPad. Vice versa. Stuff like that you don't need to worry about, it's very reliable and like he said, just works.

Been there done that. To me that is all secondary. I'm not going to stick with an Apple Iphone just so I can snap a photo and have it on my Mac as well.
Now that I switched from Iphone4 to the Samsung Note, my Ical and Note calendar sync automatically. I have my Itunes music synced via Google music manager, and I frequently use dropbox for other items.

Yes Apple stuff does "just work", but so does my Galaxy Note and many other phone brands out there.
This ecosystem idea was brilliant, and I give Apple alot of credit for it because they probably have millions of people who may consider using another phone but won't because they are brainwashed into believing that only the Iphone will "fit" into the Apple ecosystem.

If I have to push a few extra buttons to get things synced, it is sure worth it to me to be able to have the phone that I really want to use.

And as far as battery life goes, my Note gets about 90% of the battery life my Iphone4 did, and I carry a spare in my wallet. Battery life is no longer an issue . Maybe Apple will allow batteries to be changed in the future. That would be great.
My Note has Android Gingerbread on it, and Samsung has already stated that ICS will be available sometime. I do realize that "some time" could mean this year, next year, or maybe never, but I bought the phone based on the current operating system which works great for me.
As far as the fragmentation issue I keep hearing about, the apps I need work on my phone now.

I may use an Apple Iphone in the future if they start making bigger screens, but for now I prefer a phone with a 5.3" screen.
 
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mbell1975

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Been there done that. To me that is all secondary. I'm not going to stick with an Apple Iphone just so I can snap a photo and have it on my Mac as well.
Now that I switched from Iphone4 to the Samsung Note, my Ical and Note calendar sync automatically. I have my Itunes music synced via Google music manager, and I frequently use dropbox for other items.

Yes Apple stuff does "just work", but so does my Galaxy Note and many other phone brands out there.
This ecosystem idea was brilliant, and I give Apple alot of credit for it because they probably have millions of people who may consider using another phone but won't because they are brainwashed into believing that only the Iphone will "fit" into the Apple ecosystem.

If I have to push a few extra buttons to get things synced, it is sure worth it to me to be able to have the phone that I really want to use.

And as far as battery life goes, my Note gets about 90% of the battery life my Iphone4 did, and I carry a spare in my wallet. Battery life is no longer an issue . Maybe Apple will allow batteries to be changed in the future. That would be great.
My Note has Android Gingerbread on it, and Samsung has already stated that ICS will be available sometime. I do realize that "some time" could mean this year, next year, or maybe never, but I bought the phone based on the current operating system which works great for me.
As far as the fragmentation issue I keep hearing about, the apps I need work on my phone now.

I may use an Apple Iphone in the future if they start making bigger screens, but for now I prefer a phone with a 5.3" screen.

Cool. I have owned several Samsung Android phones. Wait till you start getting apps crashing, force closing and destroying your battery life. It's great fun!
 

Sunsean

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Chiming in as an Android to iPhone switcher. Was on Android for 3 years, over 3 phones, but I'm a 'mac guy' - been using macs as primary computer for years...anyway, Android was cool, it worked. But as many others have pointed out, the razzle dazzle of a fluid and cohesive UI is missing from Android, and I'm coming from a Galaxy S II. It worked well, but it didn't 'pop.' Apple works and makes it look good. I also think a big part of it is people like to switch platforms after they get bored lol. Been on ios for years? Try Android. And vice versa.

Anyway, as an iMac user and someone who is looking forward to that cohesive Mac device unity, I am happy leaving Android behind for a bit. I can also relate to what someone said a few pages back about being too distracted by all the customizable elements of Android lol. I got so into rooting and tinkering, it wasn't healthy. In the end, I picked a very simple setup that was almost reminiscent of an iphone. And I have come to learn that I actually don't like/need widgets on the home screen, which I always thought was a big pro for Android. I find that I almost NEVER use the widgets anymore. It is just smoother, more aesthetic, and more practical to access info through the app. The ONLY widget info I find useful anymore is weather, which the iphone offers in the notification window in ios5. For the most part, I found the widgets to freeze often and make the phone more sluggish.
 

0m3ga

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Chiming in as an Android to iPhone switcher. Was on Android for 3 years, over 3 phones, but I'm a 'mac guy' - been using macs as primary computer for years...anyway, Android was cool, it worked. But as many others have pointed out, the razzle dazzle of a fluid and cohesive UI is missing from Android, and I'm coming from a Galaxy S II. It worked well, but it didn't 'pop.' Apple works and makes it look good. I also think a big part of it is people like to switch platforms after they get bored lol. Been on ios for years? Try Android. And vice versa.

Perfect advice. If you have the desire, time, patience, enjoy customizing... why not? Switch back and forth. Keeps your perspective fresh. But I like both OS's personally.
 

bp1000

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My first android phone was googles flagship device, the nexus one. I even had it shipped from the states to the uk.

Initially it went head to head with thd iphone 3G. It was slightly more powerful which became more useful as ios got a bit slower with the later updates. I would have happily used the device if it wasn't for the abismal keyboard. It was very buggy and poorly designed. Other quirks made it a phone I eventually couldn't wait to stop using.

I have no doubt that android is a great and healthy alternative to apple but there are so many variants out there running on so many different devices that I'm glad to have such a great iPhone for now.
 

Lindenhurst

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Cool. I have owned several Samsung Android phones. Wait till you start getting apps crashing, force closing and destroying your battery life. It's great fun!

Exactly how long must wait ?
I've had the phone for 5 weeks now, and have had no more apps crash than I did on my Iphone.

As far as the battery life goes, the spare in my wallet more than makes up for the slightly shorter battery life.
I'm not here to say that "mine is better than yours", but it never ceases to amaze me that very few positive comments can be made about anything other than an Apple product without someone coming along and spewing out the typical stuff that we have all heard over and over again. Most of the comments are repeats of what someone else said, and are not made based on personal experience.

I'm new to Android so I can't attest to the reliability of past versions of the OS or other lesser expensive Android handsets, but the one I have now feels every bit as "premium" as my IP4 did, and the phone works every bit as well for me.
The only reason I changed was the much larger screen size. Had the IP4had a 4.5" or larger screen, I'd still be with Apple, but now that I am not, I absolutely do not feel as if I am missing something.
Iphone is a great device but one size does not fit all. Hopefully Apple will realize that before they lose even more customers to some of the larger screen phones .
I am certain they will.
For years Steve Jobs was against paying a dividend. Tim Cook is not. Steve said the 3.5" phone size was optimal. Lets see what the current regime says.
Steve was brilliant, but I think he got caught up in believing that his ideas were the only worthy ones.
Sometimes listening to others can be worthwhile. God bless the man, but if he could do it again, I'm sure he would have listened a bit more to others.

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Chiming in as an Android to iPhone switcher. Was on Android for 3 years, over 3 phones, but I'm a 'mac guy' - been using macs as primary computer for years...anyway, Android was cool, it worked. But as many others have pointed out, the razzle dazzle of a fluid and cohesive UI is missing from Android, and I'm coming from a Galaxy S II. It worked well, but it didn't 'pop.' Apple works and makes it look good. I also think a big part of it is people like to switch platforms after they get bored lol. Been on ios for years? Try Android. And vice versa.

Anyway, as an iMac user and someone who is looking forward to that cohesive Mac device unity, I am happy leaving Android behind for a bit. I can also relate to what someone said a few pages back about being too distracted by all the customizable elements of Android lol. I got so into rooting and tinkering, it wasn't healthy. In the end, I picked a very simple setup that was almost reminiscent of an iphone. And I have come to learn that I actually don't like/need widgets on the home screen, which I always thought was a big pro for Android. I find that I almost NEVER use the widgets anymore. It is just smoother, more aesthetic, and more practical to access info through the app. The ONLY widget info I find useful anymore is weather, which the iphone offers in the notification window in ios5. For the most part, I found the widgets to freeze often and make the phone more sluggish.

I agree with the getting bored bit, and I also agree with the getting caught up in the tinkering an rooting process. I did the same with Iphone but always ended up going back to stock. My Android is now stock again and I'm done with all that tinkering.
Something new every couple of years makes it interesting.

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My first android phone was googles flagship device, the nexus one. I even had it shipped from the states to the uk.

Initially it went head to head with thd iphone 3G. It was slightly more powerful which became more useful as ios got a bit slower with the later updates. I would have happily used the device if it wasn't for the abismal keyboard. It was very buggy and poorly designed. Other quirks made it a phone I eventually couldn't wait to stop using.

I have no doubt that android is a great and healthy alternative to apple but there are so many variants out there running on so many different devices that I'm glad to have such a great iPhone for now.

I remember when the "superphone" was coming out. That turned out to be a dissappointment for many. I think Google should stick to software, and not get involved in hardware. Lets see what they do with Motorola in the future.

Maybe Apple will surprise us and come out with a larger screen phone and also offer a 3.5" screen for those who like the current size. Nothing wrong with having more options.
 

TheBigKing

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What about nexus class ?? I love the nexus the only phone that i change the iPhone it's for the pure Google phones not other ones
 

Sunsean

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I agree with the getting bored bit, and I also agree with the getting caught up in the tinkering an rooting process. I did the same with Iphone but always ended up going back to stock. My Android is now stock again and I'm done with all that tinkering.
Something new every couple of years makes it interesting.

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Yeah, the tinkering was again essentially from boredom. 6 months after getting my first android phone I started getting restless, decided to root, and then promptly went on a 2 year root fest with a couple different phones, changing ROMs every week, scrutinizing over how every part of my phone was set up, from homescreens/widgets to folders and overclocking, etc, etc...finally I was like "what am I doing?" Because at the end of the day, no matter what I would tinker, the phone pretty much did the same thing at the end of the day. I was spending more time tweaking than actually just using and enjoying the phone! That's one reason I like Apple - yes, they don't give you much control, but what is there is designed to work well and be aesthetically pleasing. Like you said, I'm done with all the tinkering, and for me that means, at least for now, iphone is the better choice. Because with no/minimal tinkering, it flies.
 

mbell1975

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Mar 17, 2012
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I'm not here to say that "mine is better than yours", but it never ceases to amaze me that very few positive comments can be made about anything other than an Apple product without someone coming along and spewing out the typical stuff that we have all heard over and over again. Most of the comments are repeats of what someone else said, and are not made based on personal experience.

I'm new to Android

Exactly. You are new to Android. I have ad 6 of them over the past 4 years. All Android phones start out wonderful. Give it time. Eventually you will start loading apps that crash your phone, apps that force close or start draining your battery because the update to it wasn't written properly and the phone starts to slow down. Most people who root their phones do so because the phone is garbage otherwise. So no, I am not just some Apple fanboy who's never used an Android talking crap, I know Android all too well. Not saying its unusable, but if you have time to root and ROM your phone or babysit it by watching everything closely and closing out apps all the time or removing poorly written ones, go for it. I was tired of the headaches.
 

str8bucs

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I have used them both and multiple Android brand phones and 1 thing that kills me is the battery life of the Android. So I came back to the the iPhone and although the iPhone does lack some features that Android has (Call Blocking) I can deal with not having to charge my phone 2-3 times a day. The rock solid apps just work on the iPhone and not reboot when in the middle of a call:D
 

BiggAW

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Cool. I have owned several Samsung Android phones. Wait till you start getting apps crashing, force closing and destroying your battery life. It's great fun!

Samsuck is a special case. I had better luck with 3rd party ROMs, and my friends with DROIDs don't have too much of an issue. That being said, I love my iPhone, and while I am going to get a new Android phone for development, I won't be missing Android on my actual phone.
 

Lindenhurst

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I have used them both and multiple Android brand phones and 1 thing that kills me is the battery life of the Android. So I came back to the the iPhone and although the iPhone does lack some features that Android has (Call Blocking) I can deal with not having to charge my phone 2-3 times a day. The rock solid apps just work on the iPhone and not reboot when in the middle of a call:D

Like I said, my 5.3" screened Galaxy Note battery lasts 90% of what my Iphone4 did, and i carry an extra battery in my wallet.
Not sure why this keeps getting brought up.

ALso, I have never heard of an Android phone rebooting during a call.

C'mon, you can do better than that!!! Think of something else.
 
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