Cook is no Jobs

[*LTD*]

Beat me to it. If for Microsoft it's wrong doing, how can it not be for Apple? Your fanboyism reaches newer lengths with every post *LTD*.

One could argue that they are doing it with the integration of iTunes, iBooks and the App Store in iOS. I won't go into much detail but I think the whole kindle store link button debacle explains how anti-competitive Apple is at the moment. A whole world away from simply just bundling an irremovable web browser with an OS.

You're riding a hypothetical situation (that you made up) and passing it off as fact or a foregone conclusion.

My "fanboyism" actually points to facts (never mind Apple not being forced to provide any browser selection option, etc., after all this time) while your wishful thinking points non-existent situations that you might like to see come to pass.

Apple was not required to provide any browser selection mechanism because their actions and market behaviour did not merit it. Are the courts "fanboys" too?? Because you'll need to apply the same warped strictures you use on me to them as well.

YOU have decided Apple is acting anti-competitively. Meanwhile, back on planet Earth, no court on the planet has made that accusation (for the past decade), much less actually convicted Apple on grounds of any kind of monopoly abuses.

 

[(marc)]

My secret source say Cook has been preparing for his first keynote presentation. He wants to have his own style and that will be gangsta.

Gangsta music, pit bulls, all that will be part of his show.

Rumor has it that Jobs wasn't really that sick, just terrified to show up.

Haha! Best post I've seen in a while!

 

[Muro]

Did you really just compare jobs to the man who put an automobile in every household in the United States? the inventor of the assembly line? the man who put the nation to work on a salary of $5 a day which at the time was almost double the average salary in the country?

He's good, and he has created some great things but Henry Ford pretty much shaped the world.

he shaped the world indeed withvaverage ****** cars.

Jobs face should be placed at mount rushmore and the statue of libertyy replaced by him.

 

[roadbloc]

You're riding a hypothetical situation (that you made up) and passing it off as fact or a foregone conclusion.

My "fanboyism" actually points to facts (never mind Apple not being forced to provide any browser selection option, etc., after all this time) while your wishful thinking points non-existent situations that you might like to see come to pass.

Apple was not required to provide any browser selection mechanism because their actions and market behaviour did not merit it. Are the courts "fanboys" too?? Because you'll need to apply the same warped strictures you use on me to them as well.

YOU have decided Apple is acting anti-competitively. Meanwhile, back on planet Earth, no court on the planet has made that accusation (for the past decade), much less actually convicted Apple on grounds of any kind of monopoly abuses.

Debating with you is hopeless. You have clearly missed my point.

 

[bartzilla]

When Apple is convicted of your phantom antitrust scenarios, get back to me.

There is no strong-arming going on by Apple.

I honestly don't know how you can say that with a straight face. There's pretty clear cases of them using their position as gatekeeper in their various app stores to squash products that compete with Apple's own software, for example.

There is no illegal behaviour.

Well nothing they've been convicted of, this is certainly true.

They've also had the benefit of watching MS' antics, including anything in the area of antitrust. Apple tends to have their legal ducks in a row.

This is certainly true. Regardless of who did or did not do what, Microsoft's behaviour when called to court on their actions was appalling and will have served as a warning to everyone in the industry with half a brain, I'm sure.

 

[decafjava]

Legal discussion aside, what did everyone think of Tim Cook's performance at the keynote?

 

[xpower180]

Legal discussion aside, what did everyone think of Tim Cook's performance at the keynote?

I thought he was awful. Started watching the keynote this morning and was delighted when he stopped droning and gave way to Scott Forstall... stopped watching it completely when Cook came back on stage. #disappointing

 

[boss.king]

Legal discussion aside, what did everyone think of Tim Cook's performance at the keynote?

I had no problems with him. People say he was boring but you can't expect him to be a clone of Steve. I think with practice and experience he will get better.

 

[vvswarup]

I honestly don't know how you can say that with a straight face. There's pretty clear cases of them using their position as gatekeeper in their various app stores to squash products that compete with Apple's own software, for example.



Well nothing they've been convicted of, this is certainly true.



This is certainly true. Regardless of who did or did not do what, Microsoft's behaviour when called to court on their actions was appalling and will have served as a warning to everyone in the industry with half a brain, I'm sure.

What LTD was trying to say is that those who like to call every little decision that Apple makes as anticompetitive and "Microsoft-like" should remember that Microsoft was duly convicted of antitrust activities. Apple has yet to be duly convicted by a court of law.

The court of public opinion may have found Apple guilty a while ago. But the court of public opinion has proven to be even more unfair and even more unjust than a kangaroo court in the most totalitarian regimes.

 

[bobob]

Rumor has it that Jobs wasn't really that sick, just terrified to show up.

 

[bartzilla]

I thought he was awful. Started watching the keynote this morning and was delighted when he stopped droning and gave way to Scott Forstall... stopped watching it completely when Cook came back on stage. #disappointing

Maybe he was saddened by something. Maybe he just didn't think it was appropriate to go out and be a clone of SJ.

 

[*LTD*]

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We already know that Cook and the team were aware of Jobs' passing when they were doing the keynote. The conversation is moot.

Criticizing Cook in light of this is pointless. Wait for the next one.

 

[roadbloc]

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We already know that Cook and the team were aware of Jobs' passing when they were doing the keynote. The conversation is moot.

Criticizing Cook in light of this is pointless. Wait for the next one.

Agreed.

 

[Michaelgtrusa]

No he isn't.