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Syk

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Then the Android developer community will realize there is a 60% piracy rate among paid android apps ( a number provided by the FBI as they shut down 2 major android pirate websites this week) and wonder if that is were they want to invest their time. One day the massive malware from hell will drop and you'll say good-by to that share almost over night. Don't worry it will happen. You can not have such a wide open target in the hands of that many people,with out someone deciding to cash in.

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Yeah. good luck with that. The new iPhone will be the best selling iPhone ever. Take that to the bank. Or to wall street, if you get my drift.

Wasn't there an iOS developer on this board that was surprised how much his app was being pirated?
 

SR45

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You may be laughing now, but when you see the sales figures in 2013, you'll see that the sixth-generation iPhone will be the cause of Apple's first downturn in sales.

And where is the evidence for that remark ? Oh, you don't have one. Normal response from you again.. :p
 

thewitt

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Sep 13, 2011
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And where is the evidence for that remark ? Oh, you don't have one. Normal response from you again.. :p

No point in even arguing with this guy. He's an Android user who just can't stop posting on these forums.
 

Geckotek

macrumors G3
Jul 22, 2008
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342
NYC
No point in even arguing with this guy. He's an Android user who just can't stop posting on these forums.

It's like he has iPhone envy or something. I'll never understand why they hang in these forums. I don't own a Mac, so I never have a need to go into those forums.
 
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watchthisspace

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Apr 11, 2010
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It's obvious someone pissed in your latte and I'm not going to argue and debate what works for me. Because you don't pay my bills, you dont wipe my behind and you don't feed me

Take a yoga class and get off your high horse.

Apple will never lose the race. They know advertising all to well.
 

Darkmx2000

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Mar 30, 2012
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I was thinking about going back to Android because of 4g and lack of a bigger screen I came from the Evo 3D but I have noticed that I love the easier one handed use from the iPhone and if the new iPhone does indeed come with 4g then I am happy. Again I came from the Evo 3D and before that the Evo 4g do I have already become use to have a 4.3 and then HTC decide to stick with the 4.3 but making it taller then wider so if Apple does indeed make the screen taller vs wider then that does not bother me, what I want to see is more RAM, hopefully a better processor cause I have seen a lot of newer games max out the A5 I love gaming better on IOS then I did Android. The only problem I experienced with the S3 is that it seemed to get hot doing normal tasks that you do through the day and battery drain was a concern but this was off of using the Sprint S3 and Verizon S3 that I noticed this.
 

Darkmx2000

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Mar 30, 2012
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Then the Android developer community will realize there is a 60% piracy rate among paid android apps ( a number provided by the FBI as they shut down 2 major android pirate websites this week) and wonder if that is were they want to invest their time. One day the massive malware from hell will drop and you'll say good-by to that share almost over night. Don't worry it will happen. You can not have such a wide open target in the hands of that many people,with out someone deciding to cash in.

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Yeah. good luck with that. The new iPhone will be the best selling iPhone ever. Take that to the bank. Or to wall street, if you get my drift.

I agree with you on the last one, they said the same thing about the 4s that it would be the downfall of the iPhone because of lack of iPhone 5 and a lot of people saw it as a waste of a upgrade yet it was the top selling iPhone to date and still to this date it's outselling other phones with no problem.
 

PatriotInvasion

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Well, given the the results of Friday's verdict, I'm now 100% sure I won't be switching to Android any time soon. The only devices I was considering if I am unhappy with the next iPhone were Samsung devices, and those are sure to be hamstrung a bit going forward.

iPhone 5 it is!:D:apple::p

If I want a bigger screen, I guess I'll just have to get an iPad Mini or iPad as a complimentary device in the lovely Apple ecosystem.
 

gpatrick15

macrumors regular
Jul 16, 2008
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Well, given the the results of Friday's verdict, I'm now 100% sure I won't be switching to Android any time soon. The only devices I was considering if I am unhappy with the next iPhone were Samsung devices, and those are sure to be hamstrung a bit going forward.

iPhone 5 it is!:D:apple::p

If I want a bigger screen, I guess I'll just have to get an iPad Mini or iPad as a complimentary device in the lovely Apple ecosystem.

That's not entirely true. I don't think any current devices are affected. The Galaxy S3 and the Galaxy Nexus are in the clear. Unless of course you were trying to get the OG Galaxy S :p
 

PatriotInvasion

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That's not entirely true. I don't think any current devices are affected. The Galaxy S3 and the Galaxy Nexus are in the clear. Unless of course you were trying to get the OG Galaxy S :p

The Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Nexus don't have pinch-to-zoom or tap-to-zoom functions? If this lawsuit were just about 3 year old Samsung phones and a billion dollar payout, i don't think it would be that big of a deal. Even Samsung called the verdict "the worst case scenario for us". They have to get back to the drawing board from what I've read over the past few days.
 

gpatrick15

macrumors regular
Jul 16, 2008
153
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Atlanta, GA
The Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Nexus don't have pinch-to-zoom or tap-to-zoom functions? If this lawsuit were just about 3 year old Samsung phones and a billion dollar payout, i don't think it would be that big of a deal. Even Samsung called the verdict "the worst case scenario for us". They have to get back to the drawing board from what I've read over the past few days.

There's a list of all the affected phones readily available. I read it on Phandroid.com, but I cannot access it at work, else I would post the link.
 

tdar

macrumors 68020
Jun 23, 2003
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Wasn't there an iOS developer on this board that was surprised how much his app was being pirated?

Maybe, but all of the phones that were being used were jailbroken. Tiny small % of iOS devices. On Android you don't have to do anything but find the download site.
 

blahbrah

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Nov 9, 2006
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Ultimately, I think it's up to Apple to lose this race. I owned a Samsung Galaxy S variant before chomping down on sticking with Sprint longer for an iPhone 4S.

The iterative updates Samsung pushed out made my phone worse and worse. The keyboard became unresponsive (usually requiring me to type at about 10 wpm so it wouldn't skip keys) and the entire system got more and more unstable until doing a factory reset on the thing was a weekly occurrence. Of course Samsung's nonexistent warranty support (3 weeks to get my phone back with 0 problems fixed) didn't help.

I tried rooting, but the dev community was so fragmented that my phone was the only variant to not receive CM support (although it would, 18 months after release) despite being Sprint's new flagship phone. Even the other ROMs I loaded fixed the keyboard but still had massive problems.

I'll admit I miss a few things about Android, I definitely don't miss the sketchy software updates and the complete crapshoot when it came to dev support. That's ultimately where a lot of manufacturers, Samsung especially, will need to learn to improve. I'm not saying Samsung will for sure see a huge loss in sales starting 2 years from now, but they have a lot of work ahead if they want people to associate Samsung with a positive long term experience.
 

PatriotInvasion

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Well, with iMore pretty much confirming the leaks are real, and Apple announcing the September 12th event with a "5" shadow, it's pretty clear what we see is what we'll get.

While I don't have a huge issue with the "redesign", I'm just a little underwhelmed with what Apple is doing. It's been a long time since we've seen a "one more thing" that has been compelling. I'm hoping there will be something at the Keynote that is at least a little bit of a surprise.:(

Hope I get a more excited once I hear Apple's explanation of the reasoning behind the 4" screen and interesting 2-tone backing.:eek:
 

kicko

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Aug 26, 2008
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Well, with iMore pretty much confirming the leaks are real, and Apple announcing the September 12th event with a "5" shadow, it's pretty clear what we see is what we'll get.

While I don't have a huge issue with the "redesign", I'm just a little underwhelmed with what Apple is doing. It's been a long time since we've seen a "one more thing" that has been compelling. I'm hoping there will be something at the Keynote that is at least a little bit of a surprise.:(

Hope I get a more excited once I hear Apple's explanation of the reasoning behind the 4" screen and interesting 2-tone backing.:eek:

Agreed, i think its fine when it comes to slowly updating computers but with phones Apple is losing ground. I really hope there is some "magic" on sept 12th but it's the OS thats needs some really neat new features. Lets hope
 

Geckotek

macrumors G3
Jul 22, 2008
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Agreed, i think its fine when it comes to slowly updating computers but with phones Apple is losing ground. I really hope there is some "magic" on sept 12th but it's the OS thats needs some really neat new features. Lets hope

I think this might be the issue. Not trying to pick on you, but from what I've noticed a lot of features found in Android are "neat" but completely uncessesary. I think people are being sucked in by things like the GS3 water lux effect and some of the animations you get in Android.

I myself am drawn to these things a bit, but I don't ever see Apple doing these things. They are an uncessary draw on the processor and battery and serve no true function.

I'm not saying this is everything Android has to offer, but just an observation of ONE aspect that draws people to Android devices.
 
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Praxis91

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Mar 15, 2011
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The beauty of capitalism will make sure that the race between Apple and Android never ends. :D
 

PatriotInvasion

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I think this might be the issue. Not trying to pick on you, but from what I've noticed a lot of features found in Android are "neat" but completely uncessesary. I think people are being sucked in by things like the GS3 water lux effect and some of the animations you get in Android.

I myself am drawn to these things a bit, but I don't ever see Apple doing these things. They are an uncessary draw on the processor and battery and serve no true function.

I'm not saying this is everything Android has to offer, but just an observation of ONE aspect that draws people to Android devices.

Perhaps, but I think taking still photos while recording a video is useful. The new feature where you can watch a video while texting is cool as well. I don't know. None of those have me running to Android, but iOS definitely feels a little dated and dull and the hardware, while well made, is just lacking in choice (screen size being the big issue for most).
 

OneMike

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Oct 19, 2005
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My current 4s is far from "blah" to me, so no, I won't be getting an Android device
In fact, I will prolly get the next generation of iPhone as well

I wonder how many iPhone users actually tested an Android extensively.

What basis are you using for saying that?

I think a lot or iPhone people just go with what they know. I was stuck in that circle for a while.
 

Flux.Capacitor

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IMO, the lines will become more blurred in the near future. But "losing" the race, I don't think so. Both companies have strengths and weaknesses in the mobile arena. Androids is cost, openness, choice and bleeding edge technology... iOS' is it's ecosystem (the main reason I'm an iOS guy), consistency, stability and (here come the hecklers) "it just works". they are a little behind in technology, sure, but when they come out with it, it's pretty much useable in may real world situations. I don't think either platform is going to "lose the race". each has it's benefit and with it, it's followers.
 

MacDawg

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Mar 20, 2004
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I wonder how many iPhone users actually tested an Android extensively.

What basis are you using for saying that?

I think a lot or iPhone people just go with what they know. I was stuck in that circle for a while.

Why do I need to test an Android phone extensively?
As I said, the iPhone is not "blah" for me, it meets all my needs and then some
And it works well in my current work flow with my MBA and iPad

If it does everything I want and more and I am perfectly satisfied and happy with it (including screen size), why should I test an Android device?

I have, by the way, tested an S3 and a Nexus
They were fine and had a lot to offer
But I saw no compelling reason to change at all
They are nice phones for some people who are looking for that feature set
I am not

I am not one who is looking for a larger screen
I don't stream movies to my phone or play games

I don't care to spend my time tweaking this or that
And I don't want any widgets, themes or other stuff

Yes, I get called a fanboy, idiot, blind loyalist, iSheep because I don't want the things others want
Frankly, none of that bothers me in the least
I get the device I want because of my reasons, not anyone else's, and not Apple's... mine

So far, Apple's devices meet my needs better than anything else on the market
As long as that is the case, I will continue to buy their products
When that changes, I will change
But not until then
 

OneMike

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Oct 19, 2005
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Why do I need to test an Android phone extensively?
As I said, the iPhone is not "blah" for me, it meets all my needs and then some
And it works well in my current work flow with my MBA and iPad

If it does everything I want and more and I am perfectly satisfied and happy with it (including screen size), why should I test an Android device?

I have, by the way, tested an S3 and a Nexus
They were fine and had a lot to offer
But I saw no compelling reason to change at all
They are nice phones for some people who are looking for that feature set
I am not

I am not one who is looking for a larger screen
I don't stream movies to my phone or play games

I don't care to spend my time tweaking this or that
And I don't want any widgets, themes or other stuff

Yes, I get called a fanboy, idiot, blind loyalist, iSheep because I don't want the things others want
Frankly, none of that bothers me in the least
I get the device I want because of my reasons, not anyone else's, and not Apple's... mine

So far, Apple's devices meet my needs better than anything else on the market
As long as that is the case, I will continue to buy their products
When that changes, I will change
But not until then

You don't need to test anything. As adults we should only care about our own opinions in this respect, so I completely agree with you on that.

I was just stating that a lot of times we get into a pattern and stick with it. So an iPhone will do what you want it to, but it's a large chance you based/altered or built a lot of what you do or want to while mobile off of what the iPhone is capable of. Not necessarily off of the available technology and devices.

For me, I can't make a valid conclusion without first evaluating the options. That's close minded to me. Whatever works for you though.
 

MacDawg

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You don't need to test anything. As adults we should only care about our own opinions in this respect, so I completely agree with you on that.

I was just stating that a lot of times we get into a pattern and stick with it. So an iPhone will do what you want it to, but it's a large chance you based/altered or built a lot of what you do or want to while mobile off of what the iPhone is capable of. Not necessarily off of the available technology and devices.

For me, I can't make a valid conclusion without first evaluating the options. That's close minded to me. Whatever works for you though.

I think I stay pretty up to date on both platforms, both hardware and apps and what the capabilities are

My needs are not great, and I realize that
I understand others hunger for the screen size, the tweaks and more
I am able to do everything I need to do, and I don't think Android or an Android phone really has anything to offer me
I don't feel deprived in any way whatsoever

If there was something... I wouldn't be opposed to changing
As I said, I want what works for me, and so far my Apple products do that
 

kicko

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Aug 26, 2008
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I think this might be the issue. Not trying to pick on you, but from what I've noticed a lot of features found in Android are "neat" but completely uncessesary. I think people are being sucked in by things like the GS3 water lux effect and some of the animations you get in Android.

I myself am drawn to these things a bit, but I don't ever see Apple doing these things. They are an uncessary draw on the processor and battery and serve no true function.

I'm not saying this is everything Android has to offer, but just an observation of ONE aspect that draws people to Android devices.

No because myself I dont like to use extended batteries due to the added size but i do like the option. The option to run everything single power sucking option and not have to charge the phone for almost 2 days has to be appealing in some sense. I dont care what platform your on.
 
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