Could the nMP have been discontinued?

[sigmadog]

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Maybe NOT:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/17...pples-annual-shareholder-meeting-in-cupertino

Lou

Meh. It's the same sort of nonspecific pabulum he spouts whenever asked about pro stuff.

Don't go by what Apple execs say. Words are cheap, especially with this bunch. Judge by what Apple does, and they have done very little to nothing to shore up the bleeding away of their pro customers.

 

[JimGoshorn]

Considering that he still thinks he can replace the laptop with the iPad, one has to wonder what he considers professionals and creatives to be. Their only pro software consists of FCP and Logic so their view of creativity could be very narrow.

 

[F1Mac]

Their only pro software consists of FCP and Logic so their view of creativity could be very narrow.

I don't think the number of pro applications they make has anything to do with "their view of creativity".

While I'm in no way impying that it's what you meant, I think it's foolish to think that Apple is run by a bunch of clueless guys only interested in making more money every time a new iPhone is launched.

 

[haralds]

... Given the missing audio jack in this year's iPhone they're not doing much to show they have learned any lessons or wish to endear themselves to customers. ...

I would expect the iPhone to be totally without jack in 2-3 years. Wireless charging and all peripherals via BTLE and other standards.

 

[JimGoshorn]

While I'm in no way impying that it's what you meant, I think it's foolish to think that Apple is run by a bunch of clueless guys only interested in making more money every time a new iPhone is launched

First, it seems pretty obvious that Apple is more concerned in iDevices than it's other offerings. It has been said on this forum that the Macs no longer have a separate division which means that they are squeezed in-between device development.

When they transitioned to FCP X, they certainly upset many video professionals so much so that some went to Premiere Pro. Then they killed Aperture, which impressed many photographers and left them in the position of going to Lightroom or stay with unsupported software. Then Apple came out with the Photo app which wasn't a replacement for Aperture; just more consumer software. Those decisions seemed fairly clueless to the pros that were affected.

Thinking that the iPad will replace the laptop is questionable at best and may only be feasible for consumers who get email, surf the web and do other simple tasks.

Much of the current situation could have been avoided if Tim had said early on that they had plans in place for an updated Mac and professional support but needed time to get everything in order first. He didn't have to give away state secrets, just inform loyal users that Apple still cares and will definitely be there for them. Keeping quiet while frustrations grew was also kind of clueless and it just cost them more customers.

 

[Blair Paulsen]

Jim asks a valid question. Why hasn't Apple/TC made clear statements of their intention to bring a killer MacPro to market when the right parts are available? No details, no timeline - just reassuring the (genuine) pro market that once components are available to make a serious jump, they'll be all over it. Hard to believe they are staying quiet to avoid a drop off in sales of the current model at this point in its tenure...

 

[Ramias]

I'm cruising along with a 2011 mini (I upped the RAM and put in SSD).

I just got my tax refund and want to buy a Mac Pro but not the old specs.

Am cautious about the Hackintosh route. I can probably get it to work acceptably, but the point of buying Apple is "it just works.:

I really hope they message something soon on this.

 

[JamesPDX]

I'm cruising along with a 2011 mini (I upped the RAM and put in SSD).

I just got my tax refund and want to buy a Mac Pro but not the old specs.

Am cautious about the Hackintosh route. I can probably get it to work acceptably, but the point of buying Apple is "it just works.:

I really hope they message something soon on this.

You wanna buy my 2012 i7 QC? Seriously, I'm either going to buy a used 6,1 tube for the studio or run a 5,1 12-core from the basement and control it via screen sharing for Pro Tools 12.7. For what I'm doing, the i7 is not cutting it. But I need my recording room quiet. Thoughts?

 

[jeff7117]

Jim asks a valid question. Why hasn't Apple/TC made clear statements of their intention to bring a killer MacPro to market when the right parts are available? No details, no timeline - just reassuring the (genuine) pro market that once components are available to make a serious jump, they'll be all over it. Hard to believe they are staying quiet to avoid a drop off in sales of the current model at this point in its tenure...

I just listened to this podcast from mixinglight.com
According to the guy in the interview, Apple is still selling nMP because they have a ton of components and inventory left that they have to sell otherwise they pay hefty penalties to their suppliers. I don't know how much of that I believe, but if you look at where we are at, with a three + year old machine, at 2014 prices, it does make some sense.

The nMP has been one serious miscalculation from Apple, and it's pushed away a large portion of the Mac Pro user base to other platforms. Many can't stick around and wait on products that may or may not ever be developed.

 

[koyoot]

I just listened to this podcast from mixinglight.com
According to the guy in the interview, Apple is still selling nMP because they have a ton of components and inventory left that they have to sell otherwise they pay hefty penalties to their suppliers. I don't know how much of that I believe, but if you look at where we are at, with a three + year old machine, at 2014 prices, it does make some sense.

The nMP has been one serious miscalculation from Apple, and it's pushed away a large portion of the Mac Pro user base to other platforms. Many can't stick around and wait on products that may or may not ever be developed.

It does not make any sense, at all. It is not how it works. The sales would have to be absolutely terrible for Apple, to pay 3 years after launch the penalty for not selling the required number of components in the computer, that the deal was signed for. Lets say, Apple has made a deal with Intel for supplying at least 300 thousand Xeon v2 CPUs. Is it big number that Apple would not sell considering the initial boom of sales, after so many years waiting for updating the 5.1?

 

[Plato65]

According to the guy in the interview, Apple is still selling nMP because they have a ton of components and inventory left that they have to sell otherwise they pay hefty penalties to their suppliers. I don't know how much of that I believe, but if you look at where we are at, with a three + year old machine, at 2014 prices, it does make some sense.

So basically you're saying that there is a cost to be paid and Apple decided that they're not going to pay it, they'd rather make their customers pay it.

It does not make any sense, at all. It is not how it works. The sales would have to be absolutely terrible for Apple, to pay 3 years after launch the penalty for not selling the required number of components in the computer, that the deal was signed for. Lets say, Apple has made a deal with Intel for supplying at least 300 thousand Xeon v2 CPUs. Is it big number that Apple would not sell considering the initial boom of sales, after so many years waiting for updating the 5.1?

Well, the alternative explanation isn't very appealing either. If all the intial quotas are sold and the price for Apple of all the components has probably declined a lot, Apple simply decided to keep taking higher margins without any reinvestment, problem fixes, price adjustments, etc.?

 

[steveOooo]

That's what the refurb store is for - apple could sell excess stock there (or in the Mac clearance section which I've never ever seen anything in it).

No excuses on not having a new Mac Pro out.

 

[jeff7117]

It does not make any sense, at all. It is not how it works. The sales would have to be absolutely terrible for Apple, to pay 3 years after launch the penalty for not selling the required number of components in the computer, that the deal was signed for. Lets say, Apple has made a deal with Intel for supplying at least 300 thousand Xeon v2 CPUs. Is it big number that Apple would not sell considering the initial boom of sales, after so many years waiting for updating the 5.1?

I totally agree and I'm not saying he was right. It just doesn't make sense to release a flagship product without any upgrade cycles. There has to be some reason they never upgraded the Xeon in the nMP, even though chips were available.