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Apple clearly had a fantastic 9 min video about the Vision Pro. Showing off how it could do things a phone and computer could do, to the point that you can scan your MacBook screen and it will automatically project it.

That being said. Putting Wearable fatigue aside, and assuming battery life would be “All day” vs the current ~2 hours, do you feel the Vision Pro could replace your MacBook as a daily driver?
 

Ollé

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I can definitely see the benefits for my workflows, but not in its current state. I'm super keen to see how this develops though, as it seems to be the most refined spatial experience currently on the market.
 

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Apple clearly had a fantastic 9 min video about the Vision Pro. Showing off how it could do things a phone and computer could do, to the point that you can scan your MacBook screen and it will automatically project it.

That being said. Putting Wearable fatigue aside, and assuming battery life would be “All day” vs the current ~2 hours, do you feel the Vision Pro could replace your MacBook as a daily driver?
I see it more as replacing a 4k display than my other Apple devices, at least for the near term.

My reasoning is that on its own, I see myself using the Vision Pro more for passive content consumption that require little interaction on my part. While it may be possible, I am not sure I want to edit videos or type out a lengthy essay on the device. I have some ideas of what I might do with it if I ever got one; none of them involve serious work of any sort.
 

Night Spring

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I don't know if it could, but I definitely want a device that can make my computer truly portable. Any size screen, anywhere I want. That would be the dream. What Apple showed makes me think such a thing may be possible one day soon, even if not with this iteration.
 
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Gen Z & future generations will likely be comfortable with using it as primary device.

Although the $3499 price point may limit it to millennials and older.
 

subjonas

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No because I use 4 different computer devices daily, each different and necessary/useful, so the headset definitely can’t replace all of them. It can definitely replace my iPad mini which is maybe my most used device. It would be able to replace my 12.9” iPad if I didn’t need to use the Pencil. It cannot replace my laptop or desktop computer because I need them for pen input screens, desktop OS-only work software, and file/library management.

I think what it comes down to is it could replace a lot of people’s daily computer if their daily computer is or could be an iPad (again, unless they need the Pencil), because of the similarity between the two products. Both focus on mobility, and visionOS heavily bases itself on iOS/iPadOS.
 

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I've already been daydreaming 24/7 of a future where my entire Apple lineup is Vision Pro, MacBook, Apple Watch, and AirPods. I can see it playing out for me personally something like this:

1. I plan on buying version 1 on day 1. I will spend a few days getting to know the device and software. This is happening. My wife has already told me she can see that the level excitement I have is going to outweigh her ability to convince me that we shouldn't spend the money. And even she admits the tech is mind-blowing.

2. Much like when I got my first iPhone, I will start assessing what things on my desk I now no longer care about having due to redundancies. I imagine my personal Mac will go away, possibly my iPad as well.

3. After a decade or so of hardware miniaturization, revisions, and iteration, this kind of device looks like a pair of regular glasses, or regular enough looking by that time, and there's a version you put on without even thinking about it much like you put your Apple Watch on your wrist and/or your iPhone in your pocket every morning.

4. I upgrade to hardware that will enable what I have always thought was the final piece of the puzzle and maybe the pinnacle of hardware and software design in my lifetime: all day every day smart vision with no battery life worries and no host device to dock to for internet connection. My iPhone is not even necessary anymore. Wearables for most stuff, Mac for heavy lifting.

I have been flying so high since Monday. I know all of the above is just daydreaming for now, but to me, this feels like something so great is coming. When I saw it in real life during Monday's keynote, I literally got misty-eyed. It's one thing to envision and want and hope for something like this so bad for years and years, with constant teasing comments from Tim Cook to perpetuate all the will they won't they stuff. It's quite another to see it come true.
 
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Lioness~

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No.

I passed updating my MBA this year, as it just wasn’t enough compelling, and my old 2018 is still ok.
So new MBA 2024, and my upgrade cycle will be good for awhile.

When I need to upgrade after that, whenever that is, we'll see what happened with the Vision Pro and/or other Vision products at that time.
 

Velin

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Been pondering this question. I was all set to buy a M2 Studio and OLED screen for home office. However, now thinking about continuing with 27 iMac, Macbook Pro, iPad -- and wait two years for Vision Pro version 2 with the best possible micro-OLED screens.
 

kkee

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I will stop buying iMac and keep my current 1 year old MBA. I wonder which processor it's going to use when you operating the Mac with projected multiple screens by using the headset. In the demo, it shows that you are still using the Mac but instead of looking at its tiny screen, the user instead use the projecting giant screens through the headset. I assume it will use the laptop processor for the actual work and use the headset processor for the virtual screens and keyboards. If that's the case, and it it wasn't lagging whatsoever, that means they have improved Continuity to the next level.
 

bkkcanuck8

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I will stop buying iMac and keep my current 1 year old MBA. I wonder which processor it's going to use when you operating the Mac with projected multiple screens by using the headset. In the demo, it shows that you are still using the Mac but instead of looking at its tiny screen, the user instead use the projecting giant screens through the headset. I assume it will use the laptop processor for the actual work and use the headset processor for the virtual screens and keyboards. If that's the case, and it it wasn't lagging whatsoever, that means they have improved Continuity to the next level.
I doubt that the experience of any graphically intense application such as a game would be very good.... but for regular apps it may be fine... (bandwidth would likely be a bottleneck - unless it is using a thunderbolt bridge of some sort)
 
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Algus

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Not as a cumbersome pair of goggles, though I could certainly envision a future where a wearable was your computer. The keyboard tech they showed off looked interesting.

Imagine if you could scale that down to a pair of eyeglasses?
 

kkee

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I doubt that the experience of any graphically intense application such as a game would be very good.... but for regular apps it may be fine... (bandwidth would likely be a bottleneck - unless it is using a thunderbolt bridge of some sort)
I am not sure. This is what they said in their website: "users can set up the perfect workspace or bring the powerful capabilities of their Mac into Vision Pro wirelessly, creating an enormous, private, and portable 4K display with incredibly crisp text." They won't be unnecesarily touting that 'powerful capabilities of Mac wirelessly' if it doesn't work with any Apps?
 

bkkcanuck8

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I am not sure. This is what they said in their website: "users can set up the perfect workspace or bring the powerful capabilities of their Mac into Vision Pro wirelessly, creating an enormous, private, and portable 4K display with incredibly crisp text." They won't be unnecesarily touting that 'powerful capabilities of Mac wirelessly' if it doesn't work with any Apps?
Um, I noticed they focused on text and nothing about video. If you have a second mac - try playing a video game remotely.... over 1Gbps ethernet (which should be more bandwidth than you would have wirelessly).
 

kkee

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Um, I noticed they focused on text and nothing about video. If you have a second mac - try playing a video game remotely.... over 1Gbps ethernet (which should be more bandwidth than you would have wirelessly).
I will try that later at home, unless Vision Pro use different version of continuity, I would expect this to be very bandwidth dependent. Is that Final Cut Pro I am spotting?

apple-vision-pro-mac-desktop.jpg
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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I will try that later at home, unless Vision Pro use different version of continuity, I would expect this to be very bandwidth dependent. Is that Final Cut Pro I am spotting?

apple-vision-pro-mac-desktop.jpg

Most likely using Airplay.
 

jimbobb24

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I think it could replace an iPad. I hope they open up the OS to more powerful apps. Really would like to try to replace laptop....it's very interesting. At least I am going to pitch that to my work and see if they agree.
 

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Upon reflection it may be worth getting a decade from now.

Let 10 years of paid betas so I'd get a polished product in the mid 30s.
 

subjonas

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I think it could replace an iPad. I hope they open up the OS to more powerful apps. Really would like to try to replace laptop....it's very interesting. At least I am going to pitch that to my work and see if they agree.
Yeah I think it’s essentially an iPad in 3D space. So if an iPad with extremely free windows is all you need, then this should be able to do the job. Exception probably being if you need a pressure sensitive Pencil, but we’ll see if by the time the VP ships they have a solution for this.
 
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This video sums up my thoughts on the Vision Pro.

It is designed to eat into the iPhone, Mac, iPad, Wearables, etc

For that to occur it has to be priced like the iPhone between $429-1599.

A volume of 1/3rd billion units annually worldwide to keep Apple a $4 trillion or even $5 trillion company...

Making it at least "iPhone successful".
 

kkee

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This video sums up my thoughts on the Vision Pro.

It is designed to eat into the iPhone, Mac, iPad, Wearables, etc

For that to occur it has to be priced like the iPhone between $429-1599.

A volume of 1/3rd billion units annually worldwide to keep Apple a $4 trillion or even $5 trillion company...

Making it at least "iPhone successful".

It's not a comparable to only a single iPhone, but a sum up of iPhone, iPad and Mac (and for some people, TV, Projector, monitor, gaming console (*), safe haven, etc). If you adding all up, easily $10,000 can be saved.
 

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It's not a comparable to only a single iPhone, but a sum up of iPhone, iPad and Mac (and for some people, TV, Projector, monitor, gaming console (*), safe haven, etc). If you adding all up, easily $10,000 can be saved.
Correct you can easily save that much but people buy devices piece meal and not in $3.5k chunks

Another video that covers why the Vision Pro will be have "iPhone success".


I'd likely get one as soon as my telco offers it on a 3-4 year contract.

This may replace my Mac & iPad.
 

zplus

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It really depends on whether the virtual screens are as good and easy to interact with compared to real life. Also eye and neck fatigue may come into play as well. I can work on my Macs/PCs all day. But wearing a headset would weigh down on the neck and also adds some pressure around the head.

But having a means of launching multiple virtual monitors of unlimited size does sound good. Imagine all the clutter you can save.
 
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