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Could Vision Pro replace your daily computer?
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This is exactly what I thought -- hey, this is all tech developed for showing a self-driving car what is around it. They repurposed that to make VR environment of the space around you, and to track hand gestures.
Yeah. And I suspect what they learn from making VP might eventually turn up in a self-driving Apple car. The current problem with developing self-driving cars is how to train them to navigate the road without killing people while the AI is learning. Well, what if you train AI to walk first? Yup, those people lucky enough to score the first gen VP may not only be beta testing the new spatial computing platform, they could also be providing data set Apple can use to train AI for self-driving cars.
It could be contacts someday, but it will have to be wired.
Phones from 4+ decades ago to today.
Give enough time it can be put into contacts.
It has looked that way to a lot of people for many years, but Apple has been explicitly against merging. 🤷♂️
Unfortunately for this purpose, this quote is not applicable. It was basically meant to say that anything observable, however magical it may seem, can be explained with sufficient advancement in science. It also can be observed that an uninformed public will tend to confuse observations with magic -- when in the end science will be able to explain it. It however has nothing to do with the fancies or delusions of the mind being somehow an observation and thus with sufficient advancement it can become real - as it was not founded on observations. In some ways it can be taken as a warning against the irrational mind of an uninformed public.... Right now there is unfortunately a flood of disinformation and delusions in our society right now... which makes many in society easy to fool with magical thinking.
Apple is explicitly against things until they are ready to announce them... that is their motus operandi
I wouldn't be surprised that it be powered by body heat or even our body's electricity. Thus solves the power problem
I think Apple is not trying to create a single uber-device, but rather an ecosystem of devices, all of which have their uses in your day-to-day life. Why sell a customer one device when you can sell three, or five? That is why they are not merging macOS and iPadOS. They would rather you have a MacBook and an iPad.
Things like the Vision Pro are aimed at providing a different kind of experience, and will function alongside other Apple devices.
Things like the Vision Pro are aimed at providing a different kind of experience, and will function alongside other Apple devices.
No, their modus operandi is to not say anything until it is announced, not to speak against it.
There have only been a couple times that I know of that they explicitly spoke against something, then changed their mind.
But this stands out among those other times in that:
- they have never been this explicit (eg. the “NO” keynote slide), so repeatedly, and for so long;
- merging would be a huge change across all their main product lines, not one aspect of one product;
- there is no real market pressure to force them to change their mind.
None of us knows the minds of the Apple execs, but looking at their history, it’s not likely they are planning to merge.
It won’t be possible later either. Light can’t come in. These goggles have to fit well. How’s that work with glasses? Glasses could maybe do AR somewhat but nothing immersive or vr.
Not for 3500. Not even 2k. Meta has it right and right again focusing on games. And yet that still may not take off beyond what they’ve done.
The problem is apple. Their model is taking a cut on developers apps. Killer software is required. A killer app.
Apple has had no compelling App Store besides the phone one. Watch? It fizzled. iPad? It barely gets any support. Mac App Store? You avoid it if possible.
Apple had no vision with the vision pro. No tent poles. No goal of where this fits in. No game focus. Was streaming media or mutilple windows all they had?
There’s no haptic feedback of any kind. How immersive will that be? Apple doesn’t do controllers. Their vision of Apple Arcade with vision pro? Use an Xbox controller. Seriously.
Surprisingly, yes, or at least the Apple Silicon portion of my daily computer.
I’m stuck needing a powerful enough notebook & desktop to run Solidworks, Catia, & Inventor, and thankfully within the last few years Apple made powerful enough Intel systems (w/ some extra effort) to cover the heavy 3d & computation work. That just leaves a bunch of lightweight tasks that could just as easily be done on an ipad as a AS computer, and I already have the ipads i like, so the AppleVision is the first thing they’ve made since about 2019 that does something that my existing kit doesnt already do. And while it seems asspensive as all hades, if it costs the same as a new MBP, I think I’d rather have that more interesting functionality than a bunch of horsepower I dont need in yet another notebook for casual use.
I’ll always need a couple old macs to do what the new macs cant, but since the business end is then handled, that frees me up to just have whatever new doodad seems interesting, mostly for fun.
I don’t play games so I couldnt care less about a gaming headset.
Then again, where I live I can keep my sailboat in a slip for an entire season for that $. Which has the better impact on QoL? Hm.
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If we’re talking about replacing a phone, I don’t see a VR device or even a MR device (like the VP) being a candidate anyway. I think it will probably be illegal to wear any device even capable of immersion while driving. And I would bet after several pedestrian deaths, it would even become illegal to wear VR/MR devices in non-designated public places in general, like drinking alcohol in the US. To be phone-level ubiquitous, I believe it would have to be a purely non-immersive AR device, and probably transparent glasses (not a screen).