Here's some breaking news (just today) from Cyberpower concerning their just released PFC UPS models which uses their new "adaptive sinewave" technology.
I figure this will be of much interest for many of us that have been constantly going at it at the various UPS threads debating constantly over sine waves and buzzing noises (Macrumors forums at it's finest )
Here's the link to Cyberpower's article, which then links to the real article: http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/ab...rs-channel-pure-sinewave-ups-alternative.html
Here's the link to the whole article by CDN: http://www.itbusiness.ca/it/client/en/cdn/News.asp?id=59349
Here is the link to the 1500va model on Cyberpower's site for those that are interested: http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/products/ups-systems/intelligent-lcd-ups/CP1500PFCLCD.html
Here's an excerpt from the article:
I'd like to think pricing has a lot to do with much of the debate that goes on concerning pure sinewave UPSes, even though it may not be spoken much. This article actually came at a funny time because I just shot an email to CP yesterday inquiring about the new PFC models and if these are meant to be the appropriate type of consumer UPSes for the Mac Pro and received this reply:
Now of course, I understand that any company will want to sell you their product, so such email replies received by vendors should always be taken with a grain of salt. Also, I tried searching for any type of user or press reviews for these units and it seems these new PFC models are so new in fact, that they were just added to Amazon's inventory only just last month, and are still largely unavailable for sale. So it seems none of these are out yet in the wild. At least not long enough to see some user reviews. Here's another email reply from Jeff at CP regarding reviews:
However, referencing page 6 of this thread: Uninterruptable Power Supply threads? by Ravich, in post #134, w00tini observed adamant promotion by Cyberpower in Newegg's AVRLCD user reviews to actively inform customers of their new PFC UPSes with adaptive sine wave technology for high end machines like the Mac Pro.
Here is a direct link to Newegg's user reviews for the Cyberpower CP1500AVRLCD model, as pointed out by w00tini in the above mentioned thread: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...yMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo
You'll be able to see CP's active role in customer interaction here, mentioning their PFC lineup on several ocassions.
Though I have been unsuccessful to find a proper white paper or get an adequate concrete answer from AppleCare on the Mac Pro's exact PSU specification, I believe a PFC PSU is part of the Energy Star 5.0 rating, according to Cyberpower at Newegg, and also based on more internet forum ramblings, which the Mac Pro is rated as. Take that as you will. If there is some common knowledge that is properly documented out there concerning the Mac Pro PSU confirming it to be a PFC, then please feel free to share any findings.
So I just sent back my CP1500AVRLCD to Amazon due to a relapse in indecisiveness, but my interest is now piqued for new PFC these models. I'm personally hoping these will work as promised, provide less stress for the PSU while on battery, and finally get rid of that pesky buzzing sound. If anything, CP covers up to $425,000 compared to APC's $150,000 for their comparatively specced Back-UPS BR models. Like w00tini, I think I'll be ordering one and see how it works and try to report back as well.
It's worth noting that this seems to be the very first consumer UPS product designed to work with PFC PSUs without the use of a pure sine wave. So I am curious as how fast and in what way will competitors react to these new products, assuming of course, this stuff actually works and isn't just more marketing baloney
So I ask: any thoughts on this development?? Anyone think that this could be a big step in UPS technology?
I figure this will be of much interest for many of us that have been constantly going at it at the various UPS threads debating constantly over sine waves and buzzing noises (Macrumors forums at it's finest )
Here's the link to Cyberpower's article, which then links to the real article: http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/ab...rs-channel-pure-sinewave-ups-alternative.html
Here's the link to the whole article by CDN: http://www.itbusiness.ca/it/client/en/cdn/News.asp?id=59349
Here is the link to the 1500va model on Cyberpower's site for those that are interested: http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/products/ups-systems/intelligent-lcd-ups/CP1500PFCLCD.html
Here's an excerpt from the article:
Vendors such as HP, Dell, Lenovo and Acer are recommending a Pure Sinewave UPS for Active PFC-based systems. But Backman said Pure Sinewave is designed for high-end, mission critical systems and has the price-tag to match at $400 or more. It's just too pricy an option for the consumer, small office/home office or even SMB customer, he said.
“If you spend $1500 on a system and a Pure Sinewave UPS is $400, that's a pretty big investment for an accessory,” said Backman. “Most consumers won't spend more than 10 per cent of the purchase price of their PC to get power backup.”
I'd like to think pricing has a lot to do with much of the debate that goes on concerning pure sinewave UPSes, even though it may not be spoken much. This article actually came at a funny time because I just shot an email to CP yesterday inquiring about the new PFC models and if these are meant to be the appropriate type of consumer UPSes for the Mac Pro and received this reply:
Yes, I believe you are right on when selecting the 1500PFCLCD for your
Mac Pro.
It's not a matter of a non-pure sine wave battery backup damaging your
computer when the unit is running on battery power....it wouldn't damage
it. However, when power is cut, and the unit begins outputting
simulated sine wave, an Active PFC PSU could reject that power, and the
computer could reboot or restart, which would essentially void the whole
point of having a battery backup.
So with your setup, the CP1500PFCLCD would be the unit I would
recommend.
Thanks,
Jeff Peterson
Tech Support
CyberPower Systems
Now of course, I understand that any company will want to sell you their product, so such email replies received by vendors should always be taken with a grain of salt. Also, I tried searching for any type of user or press reviews for these units and it seems these new PFC models are so new in fact, that they were just added to Amazon's inventory only just last month, and are still largely unavailable for sale. So it seems none of these are out yet in the wild. At least not long enough to see some user reviews. Here's another email reply from Jeff at CP regarding reviews:
The units are so new that I haven't really looked for reviews yet.
I've used them here, and they seem to function quite nicely.
Sorry I don't have much more info on them though.
However, referencing page 6 of this thread: Uninterruptable Power Supply threads? by Ravich, in post #134, w00tini observed adamant promotion by Cyberpower in Newegg's AVRLCD user reviews to actively inform customers of their new PFC UPSes with adaptive sine wave technology for high end machines like the Mac Pro.
Here is a direct link to Newegg's user reviews for the Cyberpower CP1500AVRLCD model, as pointed out by w00tini in the above mentioned thread: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...yMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo
You'll be able to see CP's active role in customer interaction here, mentioning their PFC lineup on several ocassions.
Though I have been unsuccessful to find a proper white paper or get an adequate concrete answer from AppleCare on the Mac Pro's exact PSU specification, I believe a PFC PSU is part of the Energy Star 5.0 rating, according to Cyberpower at Newegg, and also based on more internet forum ramblings, which the Mac Pro is rated as. Take that as you will. If there is some common knowledge that is properly documented out there concerning the Mac Pro PSU confirming it to be a PFC, then please feel free to share any findings.
So I just sent back my CP1500AVRLCD to Amazon due to a relapse in indecisiveness, but my interest is now piqued for new PFC these models. I'm personally hoping these will work as promised, provide less stress for the PSU while on battery, and finally get rid of that pesky buzzing sound. If anything, CP covers up to $425,000 compared to APC's $150,000 for their comparatively specced Back-UPS BR models. Like w00tini, I think I'll be ordering one and see how it works and try to report back as well.
It's worth noting that this seems to be the very first consumer UPS product designed to work with PFC PSUs without the use of a pure sine wave. So I am curious as how fast and in what way will competitors react to these new products, assuming of course, this stuff actually works and isn't just more marketing baloney
So I ask: any thoughts on this development?? Anyone think that this could be a big step in UPS technology?