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You won't get any answers there. I asked him to explain scrolling lag on iOS earlier in this thread and a few other occasions previously. He can't, so just claims there is lag and does a runner. He's just fishing for reactions most of the time.
Yep he equates different scrolling inertia settings between devices as lag when clearly they are not. Just a constant stream of juvenile potshots in almost every post regardless of the thread or subject matter being discussed.
 

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It Runs IOS. Doesn't matter if the bloody thing cooks me breakfast each morning im still going to go with an Android based phone. Just like i prefer OSX over Windows. Android vs Apple reviews are kind of pointless for many as the ecosystem has the final say in which device people choose.
 
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Fair enough. But when you can get the 6P and all of its features for the SAME price as a base iPhone 6S 16GB, it's worth making room in your pocket for the bigger phone, no??

For some I guess, but not for me. I had the Note 5, a great bit of kit but it was my first ever phablet, I just couldn't get used to its size when in my pocket. It was the main reasons I sent it back and the Note 5 is smaller then the 6P!

It's a noticeable difference going from 5" and below to 5.7" in a case. And I didn't like it.
 

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It Runs IOS. Doesn't matter if the bloody thing cooks me breakfast each morning im still going to go with an Android based phone. Just like i prefer OSX over Windows. Android vs Apple reviews are kind of pointless for many as the ecosystem has the final say in which device people choose.
See, that's a reasonable point of view I can understand. If I hate steak what's the point of going to the best steakhouse? There however are still plenty of people who like steak and might want to read a review of that steakhouse.

Horse already left the barn with that review and anandtech knew it. With 13 million over launch weekend the review was a day late and a dollar short as favorable as it was.
 

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The SD 810 2.1 supposedly solves the heat issues and performs better.

Thanks for sharing that! The 5X's score is almost as disappointing as the HTC One M9's, but I was surprised to see that the 6P's score rivals that of the Exynos.

This is good news because it means that the 820 should be much better than the 810, which means that the A10 should be a higher jump than the A7 to A8 was if they want to compete in the multi-core score.
 

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Thanks for sharing that! The 5X's score is almost as disappointing as the HTC One M9's, but I was surprised to see that the 6P's score rivals that of the Exynos.

This is good news because it means that the 820 should be much better than the 810, which means that the A10 should be a higher jump than the A7 to A8 was if they want to compete in the multi-core score.
You will see variations in 6P results as the 810 does throttle. I've seen results around 44,000 on Antutu after throttling kicks in.
 

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You will see variations in 6P results as the 810 does throttle. I've seen results around 44,000 on Antutu after throttling kicks in.
That's right, I forgot about the throttling! Thanks for reminding be about that, that's definitely something else they need to work on.
 
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Anandtech has been around a long time. They basically put methodical and measured testing on the map when at the time most reviews were merely subjective and unscientific.

This isn't some fly by night blog.

For many people, they don't buy a piece of hardware without seeing results from Anandtech testing first. Their reputation is well earned.
 

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Anandtech has been around a long time. They basically put methodical and measured testing on the map when at the time most reviews were merely subjective and unscientific.

This isn't some fly by night blog.

For many people, they don't buy a piece of hardware without seeing results from Anandtech testing first. Their reputation is well earned.
Correction. Their rep "was" well earned. When Anand went to work for Apple, things changed.
 
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I dont really understand how bias is apparent in their benchmarking methodologies. Sure some of the narrative is opinionated, but people usually go to anandtech for the numbers anyways.

The 810 really hurt android this year with the exception of Samsung and it seems somehow the 6P has wrangled the 810 a bit. The 808 is arguably inferior to the 805 aside from being 64 bit.
 
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I dont really understand how bias is apparent in their benchmarking methodologies. Sure some of the narrative is opinionated, but people usually go to anandtech for the numbers anyways.

The 810 really hurt android this year with the exception of Samsung and it seems somehow the 6P has wrangled the 810 a bit. The 808 is arguably inferior to the 805 aside from being 64 bit.
In the case of giving the iPhone 6S their "Gold" stamp of approval, it was less about hard numbers and more about their biased opinion. They couldn't articulate why they gave the 6S such a high rating other than to show the A9 benchmarks.
 
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In the case of giving the iPhone 6S their "Gold" stamp of approval, it was less about hard numbers and more about their biased opinion. They couldn't articulate why they gave the 6S such a high rating other than to show the A9 benchmarks.

I couldnt imagine giving the 6S anything other than gold, unless pricing could push it to silver or something. But are we talking about value or performance here?
 

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I couldnt imagine giving the 6S anything other than gold, unless pricing could push it to silver or something. But are we talking about value or performance here?
Value is in the eyes of the beholder. Those who think a flagship is too expensive rate the value low. Those who don't like a brand rate the value low etc.
 

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As many have pointed out, Anandtech is long known to be extremely pro Apple (for many reasons). While the review is thorough, there are blatant false statements sprinkled throughout. Take the camera, for example, the iphone 6s camera is nowhere even near the top 5 on the market, not to mention the best. A quick look at dxomark, which is a far more respectable and dependable site for truly in-depth camera reviews, would tell you that.
 

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As many have pointed out, Anandtech is long known to be extremely pro Apple (for many reasons). While the review is thorough, there are blatant false statements sprinkled throughout. Take the camera, for example, the iphone 6s camera is nowhere even near the top 5 on the market, not to mention the best. A quick look at dxomark, which is a far more respectable and dependable site for truly in-depth camera reviews, would tell you that.
Dxo misses stuff like blown highlights and off color rendition. And obviously it's their opinion as to the camera; and your opinion as to whether dxo holds any more weight than any other body of testing.
 

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Dxo testing is very similar to a processor benchmark. They set a testing environment in a lab much like a benchmark app does with its software.

It is not a real world test, just like a benchmark.

If you respect dxo you should really respect at the benchmarking sections of the anandtech review.

What android phone out right now is overall better than the iPhone 6s or the plus? Plenty of ideological arguments against this review but let's talk about some actual phones :p

The way you guys are talking makes it sound like there are phones out there smashing the iPhone in every way :p

I like android like the anandtech reviewer claims to as well (was also using a phone from 2013 too) and 2015 makes me want to hate on Android devices too. Marshmallow looks great though.
 
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But it runs iOS, that is an issue for many

Anantech isn't the gospel and final word either
Well said!

I enjoy both Android and iOS, each for its individual strengths. It's also a golden opportunity to stay current via first hand experience daily. A decade ago Anantech was very fair and fairly neutral in their reporting, then slowly they became very pro Apple which became very noticeable to me about five years ago. The good news about Apples success is lots of us get to enjoy it. Conversely the downside is their popularity has slanted coverage in their favor with unfounded bias against Android. Not in every case, but all too often when I'm reading reviews it's obvious the writer just doesn't like Android personally.
 

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Dxo testing is very similar to a processor benchmark. They set a testing environment in a lab much like a benchmark app does with its software.

It is not a real world test, just like a benchmark.

If you respect dxo you should really respect at the benchmarking sections of the anandtech review.

What android phone out right now is overall better than the iPhone 6s or the plus? Plenty of ideological arguments against this review but let's talk about some actual phones :p

The way you guys are talking makes it sound like there are phones out there smashing the iPhone in every way :p

I like android like the anandtech reviewer claims to as well (was also using a phone from 2013 too) and 2015 makes me want to hate on Android devices too. Marshmallow looks great though.

Sony's Xperia Z5 has far superior stabilisation when shooting 4K video then the iPhone 6S Plus does, according to You Tube videos.
Also I'm still out on the jury of the 6S camera performance, I have taken a few shots of my dog where the age old iPhone problem rears it's head where the fur comes out as a blurry mess, the Note 5 I had didn't have this problem. But I need to test it further.

iPhone 6S on auto:

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This is a better photo, I took this one a few times:

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If anyone has any tips on how to get better photos with the iPhone 6S then let me know, I want to keep it.
 
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Sony's Xperia Z5 has far superior stabilisation when shooting 4K video then the iPhone 6S Plus does, according to You Tube videos.
Also I'm still out on the jury of the 6S camera performance, I have taken a few shots of my dog where the age old iPhone problem rears it's head where the fur comes out as a blurry mess, the Note 5 I had didn't have this problem. But I need to test it further.

The 6S may not be the "best", but in fairness all cell phone cameras aren't exemplary in every mode, every lighting situation and every scene.

Well said!

I enjoy both Android and iOS, each for its individual strengths. It's also a golden opportunity to stay current via first hand experience daily. A decade ago Anantech was very fair and fairly neutral in their reporting, then slowly they became very pro Apple which became very noticeable to me about five years ago. The good news about Apples success is lots of us get to enjoy it. Conversely the downside is their popularity has slanted coverage in their favor with unfounded bias against Android. Not in every case, but all too often when I'm reading reviews it's obvious the writer just doesn't like Android personally.

Part of the success of the iphone is that (a lot of)people like the device, for some that amounts to bias.
 

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Sony's Xperia Z5 has far superior stabilisation when shooting 4K video then the iPhone 6S Plus does, according to You Tube videos.
Also I'm still out on the jury of the 6S camera performance, I have taken a few shots of my dog where the age old iPhone problem rears it's head where the fur comes out as a blurry mess, the Note 5 I had didn't have this problem. But I need to test it further.

iPhone 6S on auto:

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This is a better photo, I took this one a few times:

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If anyone has any tips on how to get better photos with the iPhone 6S then let me know, I want to keep it.

The z5 is hailed by dxo and so be it. There you are giving up processing performance though for general phone use. I'm sure thermals are more of a concern versus an iPhone or exynos too.

I would argue the z5 is not a better all arounder than iPhone even if camera is superior.

Won't pretend to be an expert on cameras. I leave everything on auto. - mostly take family photos and the 6s is great at close range quick well focused shots of my moving son. I would love ois for video but there are too many compromises to get it on other devices that have it for me.
 
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clarencet

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Dxo testing is very similar to a processor benchmark. They set a testing environment in a lab much like a benchmark app does with its software.

It is not a real world test, just like a benchmark.

If you respect dxo you should really respect at the benchmarking sections of the anandtech review.

What android phone out right now is overall better than the iPhone 6s or the plus? Plenty of ideological arguments against this review but let's talk about some actual phones :p

The way you guys are talking makes it sound like there are phones out there smashing the iPhone in every way :p

I like android like the anandtech reviewer claims to as well (was also using a phone from 2013 too) and 2015 makes me want to hate on Android devices too. Marshmallow looks great though.

True. There is no question Anandtech in general does very thorough and objective reviews, and has done so for many years. This of course is especially commendable in contrast to the myriad other so-called reviewers and websites online, many of whom the biases and lack of technical know-how are painfully obvious. However, when it comes to Apple products, Anand does unfortunately fall prey to slants which are no doubt at least partially motivated by conflicts of interest. This is reflected in over-reaching statements evident in the review.

Objectively overall, of course the iPhone 6s or Plus are among the top phones. But to state that it has no faults and is the "best" in categories like the camera performance is simply false. No flagship smartphone can be said to be clearly superior in every aspect on today's market.

IMHO, personal preferences for a brand and/or mobile OS (Android vs iOS) really has no place in an objective review.
 
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