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Truefan31

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Yeah like its hard to believe the iPhone 6s is actually a great device. Again I think they're really impressed with the performance of the cpu, gpu, and storage speed. As am I. Seeing Linus on YouTube, who's imo pretty anti Apple impressed with it as well says something as well.
 

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Comments are interesting...

http://www.phonearena.com/news/iPho...nages-excellent-score_id74145/comments/page/2

Specs only start to matter if your side is winning...

They do care. They don't care when they
no longer have the advantage.

Fact - When the IPS display was the best displays
you could buy, all you could hear was, our displays
are better and look at the sharpness and how high
our PPI is. Now that thet is no longer the case, now
you hear...oh you dont need 1080p or 1440p and
more RAM and blah blah blah because IOS is
optimized to run in less RAM and blah blah blah.
When they are losing those things dont matter. When
they are Winnipeg they do matter. JUST READ THE
POSTS dude.

They are all hypocrites. Everything sucks on Android
until they themselves has it 3 year later.
When Samsung started bring 1280x800 resolutions
and now 1080p and 1440p, they all toned down
talking about PPI counts. Theier new argument is,
whell once you get pass 330PPI you cant see the
difference.

Well they cant because their eyes have been lookign
at crappy displays that use non-standard
resolutions. Theer is a huge difference in display
when looking at 720p vs 1080p. 1440p doesnt bring
a huge difference over 1080p, but you can see
significant differences in text sharpness and color
accuracy whcih Samsung displays hold best over
ALL OEMS period.

What you said use to be true, its not anymore.
When iPhones had the camera edge, it was the same
thing. Now that they dont, they get excited over any
feature Samsung doesnt have. For example,
Samsung added the ability to take a picture in picture
and record audio and some action into a photo. They
all said it was a gimmicky feature. Now here Apple is
3 years later WITH THE EXACT SAME THING and oh
they love it.

Same for features like Burst Shots. Auto-Focusing/
with auto-tracking and OIS and more.They hate
everything about Android simpky because many
things are better, some things are.

Apple has lots of advantages over Google, but they
arent taking full advantage of them.
 

bkends35

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These days, if anybody praises a product, half the people think they're biased and paid off by the company. It's quite sad. Why don't people just buy something and use it for what it is?
 
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I want to see reviewers really TEST the iPhone 6s series. Let's see if iPhone 6s can handle using an app like Flud/uTorrent and TubeMate at the same time. Downloading multiple movies and video clips for each app which I am currently doing right now with two of my phones. While those two apps are running in the background, then use Viber, text, or use it like a normal phone. Or play an emulator above Dreamcast level or use MoboPlayer to watch a video in a small window while web browsing. Now forget just doing it for days. Do this consistently for months.

Apple iPhones can NOT even do those out of the box. No mobile operating system could except ANDROID right now. And Android can't do it smoothly or may lag eventually but at least it COULD. Trust me, do anything I mentioned above and that iPhone 6s with 2 GB of RAM will stutter, hang, and hiccup just as fast as most powerful Androids would. As much as we think these smartphones are as powerful as our desktop computers, they aren't compared to ones with equal value or higher. You will see every smartphone's limitations when you start downloading a ton of stuff in the background or running powerful emulators that can run videos games from the 6th gen and above. And all of them will eventually lag or hiccup if you do that heavy loading for months.

The stuff iOS can do out of the box is WEAK SAUCE compared to what Android can do. And that's why iOS looks smoother, faster, yadda3x. Great hardware only handcuffed by a crippling mobile OS without any real hardcore background testing. I only seen benchmark scores which meaning NOTHING in the real world. And iPhones can't be truly tested because its very nature can't run apps like Flud, TubeMate, and emulators. It is PERFECT for non-techies but becomes imperfect to power users once you truly test it with RAM hungry apps.
 

Truefan31

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I want to see reviewers really TEST the iPhone 6s series. Let's see if iPhone 6s can handle using an app like Flud/uTorrent and TubeMate at the same time. Downloading multiple movies and video clips for each app which I am currently doing right now with two of my phones. While those two apps are running in the background, then use Viber, text, or use it like a normal phone. Or play an emulator above Dreamcast level or use MoboPlayer to watch a video in a small window while web browsing. Now forget just doing it for days. Do this consistently for months.

Apple iPhones can NOT even do those out of the box. No mobile operating system could except ANDROID right now. And Android can't do it smoothly or may lag eventually but at least it COULD. Trust me, do anything I mentioned above and that iPhone 6s with 2 GB of RAM will stutter, hang, and hiccup just as fast as most powerful Androids would. As much as we think these smartphones are as powerful as our desktop computers, they aren't compared to ones with equal value or higher. You will see every smartphone's limitations when you start downloading a ton of stuff in the background or running powerful emulators that can run videos games from the 6th gen and above. And all of them will eventually lag or hiccup if you do that heavy loading for months.

The stuff iOS can do out of the box is WEAK SAUCE compared to what Android can do. And that's why iOS looks smoother, faster, yadda3x. Great hardware only handcuffed by a crippling mobile OS without any real hardcore background testing. I only seen benchmark scores which meaning NOTHING in the real world. And iPhones can't be truly tested because its very nature can't run apps like Flud, TubeMate, and emulators. It is PERFECT for non-techies but becomes imperfect to power users once you truly test it with RAM hungry apps.

I think you're really wanting an android phone then. And in general the iPhone market isn't for u. You want reviewers to do all these things that I'd say at least 90% of people don't do so people can basically say the iPhone isn't up to snuff. If you want to run multiple emulators and Windows/apps simultaneously and text, etc on a phone, then stay with android. But I think it's evident the A9 is a pretty powerful cpu. The 2 gb ram is a nice upgrade. Benchmarks are supportive, but overall the iPhone just does its usual things a little better now. If you like the iPhone, you'll continue to like it. But if you prefer android to the extent you want to basically do everything on your phone then you'll still prefer android.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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I want to see reviewers really TEST the iPhone 6s series. Let's see if iPhone 6s can handle using an app like Flud/uTorrent and TubeMate at the same time. Downloading multiple movies and video clips for each app which I am currently doing right now with two of my phones. While those two apps are running in the background, then use Viber, text, or use it like a normal phone. Or play an emulator above Dreamcast level or use MoboPlayer to watch a video in a small window while web browsing. Now forget just doing it for days. Do this consistently for months.

Apple iPhones can NOT even do those out of the box. No mobile operating system could except ANDROID right now. And Android can't do it smoothly or may lag eventually but at least it COULD. Trust me, do anything I mentioned above and that iPhone 6s with 2 GB of RAM will stutter, hang, and hiccup just as fast as most powerful Androids would. As much as we think these smartphones are as powerful as our desktop computers, they aren't compared to ones with equal value or higher. You will see every smartphone's limitations when you start downloading a ton of stuff in the background or running powerful emulators that can run videos games from the 6th gen and above. And all of them will eventually lag or hiccup if you do that heavy loading for months.

The stuff iOS can do out of the box is WEAK SAUCE compared to what Android can do. And that's why iOS looks smoother, faster, yadda3x. Great hardware only handcuffed by a crippling mobile OS without any real hardcore background testing. I only seen benchmark scores which meaning NOTHING in the real world. And iPhones can't be truly tested because its very nature can't run apps like Flud, TubeMate, and emulators. It is PERFECT for non-techies but becomes imperfect to power users once you truly test it with RAM hungry apps.
I think the non-power users like myself among us wouldn't care either way whether the iPhone can do the tasks you suggest here. As was said I think you've got the phone that suits your needs in any case.
 
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John Mcgregor

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I want to see reviewers really TEST the iPhone 6s series. Let's see if iPhone 6s can handle using an app like Flud/uTorrent and TubeMate at the same time. Downloading multiple movies and video clips for each app which I am currently doing right now with two of my phones. While those two apps are running in the background, then use Viber, text, or use it like a normal phone. Or play an emulator above Dreamcast level or use MoboPlayer to watch a video in a small window while web browsing. Now forget just doing it for days. Do this consistently for months.

Apple iPhones can NOT even do those out of the box. No mobile operating system could except ANDROID right now. And Android can't do it smoothly or may lag eventually but at least it COULD. Trust me, do anything I mentioned above and that iPhone 6s with 2 GB of RAM will stutter, hang, and hiccup just as fast as most powerful Androids would. As much as we think these smartphones are as powerful as our desktop computers, they aren't compared to ones with equal value or higher. You will see every smartphone's limitations when you start downloading a ton of stuff in the background or running powerful emulators that can run videos games from the 6th gen and above. And all of them will eventually lag or hiccup if you do that heavy loading for months.

The stuff iOS can do out of the box is WEAK SAUCE compared to what Android can do. And that's why iOS looks smoother, faster, yadda3x. Great hardware only handcuffed by a crippling mobile OS without any real hardcore background testing. I only seen benchmark scores which meaning NOTHING in the real world. And iPhones can't be truly tested because its very nature can't run apps like Flud, TubeMate, and emulators. It is PERFECT for non-techies but becomes imperfect to power users once you truly test it with RAM hungry apps.

Benchmarks suggest it is more than capable. Apple is just not that stupid to allow all kinds of crappy apps to run no it. There is a junkyard called android for that.
 
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gotluck

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FWIW jailbroken ios can do all of that w/ itransmission, youtube ++, some video app now that ios9 supports pip (or there were tweaks for this in ios8 and earlier). May need a backgrounding tweak to keep itransmission in the foreground (havent bothered here because I havent had the need on ios9, but tweaks to keep backgrounding apps running definitely do work). The 6S with 2GB ram can definitely do this, I was doing similar scenerios on my Air with 1GB in the past even. Retroarch is a beautiful emulator as well w/ ps3/4/mifi controller support, although not sure about dreamcast, I was using N64.

Apples hardware and software are both great. For whatever reason they do purposefully hamstring their software, but the devices are certainly capable of basically everything android can do. I would argue apple hardware is actually better even in spite of ram and anandtech agrees :p Tasker is probably the most unique thing android has, Activator is probably the closest thing but I am not much for automation personally - too much tinkering.

The one thing I miss most from android is a notification API so things like pushbullet notification mirroring can work. iOS just doesn't have a notification API at all. I prefer google now too.

I agree it is a shame apple doesnt let us do what we want out of the box, but google really doesnt either. I want root on android too and this new safetynet stuff is more hoops to jump through. Systemless root to get around safetynet means no xposed and the game is changing. Jailbreaking is pretty straight forward with no ill effects to touchid or apple pay. The number of phones that get updates and can be rooted with android are very few. iOS gets reliable updates and has been reliably jailbroken lately, one of my biggest factors in switching back to iOS. That and the a9 smokes everything.



I want to see reviewers really TEST the iPhone 6s series. Let's see if iPhone 6s can handle using an app like Flud/uTorrent and TubeMate at the same time. Downloading multiple movies and video clips for each app which I am currently doing right now with two of my phones. While those two apps are running in the background, then use Viber, text, or use it like a normal phone. Or play an emulator above Dreamcast level or use MoboPlayer to watch a video in a small window while web browsing. Now forget just doing it for days. Do this consistently for months.

Apple iPhones can NOT even do those out of the box. No mobile operating system could except ANDROID right now. And Android can't do it smoothly or may lag eventually but at least it COULD. Trust me, do anything I mentioned above and that iPhone 6s with 2 GB of RAM will stutter, hang, and hiccup just as fast as most powerful Androids would. As much as we think these smartphones are as powerful as our desktop computers, they aren't compared to ones with equal value or higher. You will see every smartphone's limitations when you start downloading a ton of stuff in the background or running powerful emulators that can run videos games from the 6th gen and above. And all of them will eventually lag or hiccup if you do that heavy loading for months.

The stuff iOS can do out of the box is WEAK SAUCE compared to what Android can do. And that's why iOS looks smoother, faster, yadda3x. Great hardware only handcuffed by a crippling mobile OS without any real hardcore background testing. I only seen benchmark scores which meaning NOTHING in the real world. And iPhones can't be truly tested because its very nature can't run apps like Flud, TubeMate, and emulators. It is PERFECT for non-techies but becomes imperfect to power users once you truly test it with RAM hungry apps.
 
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John Mcgregor

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Strange how some users seem to define power users as people who pirate movies or play dreamcast emulators ...

People i know that can be called professionals and power users all use iPhones and iPads, because at the end of the day they want just to take the device and use it without any ******** happening.
 
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People i know that can be called professionals and power users all use iPhones and iPads, because at the end of the day they want just to take the device and use it without any ******** happening.
no mobile device is immune to sh#1 happening. My iPad air 2, which was the first Apple iDevice with 2gb of ram, would still give me a random reboot, would fc apps and even occasionally refresh a webpage.

if you happen to work in a profession where Apple has a lot of specialized apps for your business (medical is huge), then you can get by with all iproducts. if you need access to files on your device, need to be able to email and open all sorts of files on your device, be able to download, view and edit any sort of video file, then an idevice comes up way short. The profession and capabilities needed dictate the mobile device that will be used, not the tiny amount of people you know and believe are professionals and power users.
 
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Alphazoid

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- Can't really argue with them. The performance improvement is quite impressive even more so with the SD810 flopping and the 808 being a cheaper substitute. iOS 9 also brought a lot of stuff people were clamouring for on both the tablet and smartphone side. Camera got better and battery life remained consistent. And Apple retail/support/ecosystem still reigns supreme. The 6S isn't an awesome device. Its just the better of a boring bunch.

- The Nexus 6P is a good phone but battery and camera are inferior, and then there's the build quality issues people are having. The 5X despite being solid fails to inspire.

- Moto G still rules the budget market but if you've bought any Moto G you're unlikely to upgrade because its largely the same proposition even in 2015. The Moto X lost its essence and is now just another touchscreen slab in a sea of touchscreen slabs.

- Samsung has been found out

- HTC still HTC

- OnePlus botched the OPT

So really, the market is largely uninspiring...even more so if you have a relatively recent smartphone.
 

Michael Goff

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I pretty much agree with all of it. But I bought the 6S and didn't like it at all - very frustrating. At the end of the day, it doesn't run Android, and that's where it falls down for me.

Really, that's how it should be. People should base their choice on what they like and not what AnandTech says is technically good.

The usual suspects out in full force to bash Anandtech and their review and accuse it of bias. What a shock. :rolleyes:

You mean biased doesn't mean "disagrees with me"?
 

AustinIllini

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The usual suspects out in full force to bash Anandtech and their review and accuse it of bias. What a shock. :rolleyes:
Head on over to the iPhone board, where everyone bashes whomever criticizes the iPhone.

This is the alternates board. While some of us have no problem and regularly use iOS, we're all entitled to our opinions.
 
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Mildredop

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Really, that's how it should be. People should base their choice on what they like and not what AnandTech says is technically good.

It's kind of a shame trying phones isn't easier. Admittedly, trying the iPhone wasn't a complete chore, but it did mean buying it, setting it up, swapping SIMs, syncing etc. It'd be great to have some sort of website that acts like an iPhone - send a few fake texts, have a look around, change some settings, download a couple of 'apps' - all from an Android device.

I'm still having problems with my Android phone which, according to EE, is purely because I tried an iPhone for a week.
 
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