MP All Models DaVinci Resolve 'Standard Candle UHD': Rocket Science

[rondocap]

Thanks rondocap for taking the time!

Some nice results in there... ?

Another score for reference, but with a threadripper 3960x and dual 3090


3960x with dual rtx 3090
09 Blur: 101 fps
18 Blur: 59 fps
30 Blur: 37 fps
66 Blur: 18 fps

1 TNR: 86 fps
2 TNR: 45 fps
4 TNR: 24 fps
6 TNR: 16 fps

 

[Flint Ironstag]

I would like to play, but I am completely ignorant. I have a Hackintosh with 4 GPUs, but only 2 of the Radeon Frontier edition are recognized currently. All 4 work under windows... go figure.

I have zero experience with this app, is there a complete idiot's guide? Tried some multi-GPU benchmarking on Mac a while back and found it cumbersome.

 

[rondocap]

Here are two 6900 XT with the middle test. Both are significantly faster than the Vega ii duo - $5600 for that, vs about $3300 street price for the both 6900xt together, reference model. (Original MSRP $999 for each, but you know how that goes in the current market)

Are there any scores for 2x Vega ii duo, so 4 GPU? I wonder how two 6900 xt would compare to that in this test. May be possible to add more 6900xt via eGPU and thunderbolt, not sure if 4 could possibly get close to max on the test.

The older Candle test is basically all maxed out with 2 6900 xt, the last 6 TNR is around 57fps but everything else pegs at 60FPS.

Middle Rocket test, 6k and UHD
Mac Pro 7.1 2019 | 24 core | two 6900 XT
09 Blur: 59 fps
18 Blur: 59 fps
30 Blur: 41 fps
66 Blur: 19 fps

1 TNR: 59 fps
2 TNR: 46 fps
4 TNR: 23 fps
6 TNR: 16 fps

 

[Briantoma]

Hi everyone here are my results:
Middle Rocket test, 6k and UHD
Mac Pro 7.1 2019 | 28 core | 144Gb ram | W5700X and RX6800
09 Blur: 59 fps
18 Blur: 32fps
30 Blur: 20fps
66 Blur: 9fps

1 TNR: 54fps
2 TNR: 27fps
4 TNR: 13fps
6 TNR: 9FPS

So basically same results as 2x W5700X
Only advantage I can see to this set up (since the RX6800 cost me as much as a W5700X from apple) is that I still have space inside the Mac Pro to add an other GPU (probably 6900XT).

(And BTW I upgraded the CPU myself from an 8 core base version, I would never have paid the apple price!)

Thanks for this great benchmark.

 

[rondocap]

Hi everyone here are my results:
Middle Rocket test, 6k and UHD
Mac Pro 7.1 2019 | 28 core | 144Gb ram | W5700X and RX6800
09 Blur: 59 fps
18 Blur: 32fps
30 Blur: 20fps
66 Blur: 9fps

1 TNR: 54fps
2 TNR: 27fps
4 TNR: 13fps
6 TNR: 9FPS

So basically same results as 2x W5700X
Only advantage I can see to this set up (since the RX6800 cost me as much as a W5700X from apple) is that I still have space inside the Mac Pro to add an other GPU (probably 6900XT).

(And BTW I upgraded the CPU myself from an 8 core base version, I would never have paid the apple price!)

Thanks for this great benchmark.

Nice, I did the same with the cpu upgrade. The 28 core actually makes a huge difference in my video workflow, it’s always high usage.

 

[rondocap]

Middle Test, UHD Pro res

W6800x Duo
09 Blur: 59 fps
18 Blur: 51 fps
30 Blur: 31 fps
66 Blur: 15 fps

1 TNR: 59 fps
2 TNR: 39 fps
4 TNR: 20 fps
6 TNR: 14 fps

To compare to the dual W5700x:

2x W5700X

09 Blur: 59 fps
18 Blur: 30 fps
30 Blur: 19 fps
66 Blur: 9 fps

1 TNR: 51 fps
2 TNR: 26 fps
4 TNR: 14 fps
6 TNR: 10 fps

 

[AndreeOnline]

(And BTW I upgraded the CPU myself from an 8 core base version, I would never have paid the apple price!)

Nice, I did the same with the cpu upgrade. The 28 core actually makes a huge difference in my video workflow, it’s always high usage.

Hi guys! Without derailing the thread too much: do you have, or know of, a good, current writeup regarding CPU upgrades? I know there was some speculation early on after release if we could just drop in a CPU from Ebay, and some early tests that were somewhat shaky, but mostly successful.

Have you opted for "maximum price/performane" via ES-branded CPUs, or did you stick to retail serial numbers?

 

[AndreeOnline]

I would like to play, but I am completely ignorant. I have a Hackintosh with 4 GPUs, but only 2 of the Radeon Frontier edition are recognized currently. All 4 work under windows... go figure.

I have zero experience with this app, is there a complete idiot's guide? Tried some multi-GPU benchmarking on Mac a while back and found it cumbersome.

Sorry for the late reply.

Do you have the Studio version of Resolve installed? To run the benchmark you will need to download the .zip from the link and import the project file (.drp which stands for DaVinci Resolve Project). Click the little 'house' icon on the bottom right in Resolve. This opens the project window. The project window should also be the first window you see when Resolve starts fresh. It might be empty if you haven't used the software. In this window, you can right click and 'import project'. This lets you navigate to the project file and import it.

The project file contains all the information to run the test. It has the timeline configured to the correct resolution and all the nodes are setup.

Before you can play it back, you will need to re-link the media files, since the current links are based on the file location on my Mac Pro. It's mentioned in the first post, but basically just right click the files on the media page (red icons: missing media) and choose re-link which will let you navigate to the files on your computer.
After that, you go to the Color page. You can now just press play and a looping playback will begin. FPS are overlaid on top of the video. To increase the load, move to a larger node setup: CMD+N. As you switch, you will briefly see the name of the node setup, like 18 Blur.

Each time you press CMD+N you will go the 'Next' node setup. CMD+B moves 'Back'.

 

[rondocap]

Hi guys! Without derailing the thread too much: do you have, or know of, a good, current writeup regarding CPU upgrades? I know there was some speculation early on after release if we could just drop in a CPU from Ebay, and some early tests that were somewhat shaky, but mostly successful.

Have you opted for "maximum price/performane" via ES-branded CPUs, or did you stick to retail serial numbers?

I’ve done about 3 separate cpu upgrades, one W3265M and two W3275M.

imo it’s worth it to go for the 28 core as the 2nd hand prices are much more reasonable.

id avoid “ES” or engineering samples. “QS” is usually OK as it is just early retail versions, similar to the oem retail. Usually I’ll go for the retail oem version if price is close

most come from servers from sellers in china, but from my experience they been pretty flawless as Xeons are very robust.

i check with Mac OS ID, which shows they are genuine. Also can check serial numbers on intel’s site, no warranty of course but I’ll say something about them bring some type of oem.

prices have gone down since w3300 is out, too. You can find a good W3275M for likely 1400-1700 now

let me know what other questions you may have as well

 

[Briantoma]

Hello everyone,

I have added a 6900XT to my configuration, here are the results:

Middle Rocket test, 6k and UHD
Mac Pro 7.1 2019 | 28 core | 144Gb ram | W5700X + RX6800 + RX6900XT

9blur 60fps
18 44fps
30 28fps
66 13fps

1NR 60fps
2NR 34fps
4NR 17fps
6NR 12FPS

Mac Pro 7.1 2019 | 28 core | 144Gb ram | RX6800 + RX6900XT (W5700X GUI ONLY)

9blur 60fps
18 58fps
30 35fps
66 16fps

1NR 60fps
2NR 41fps
4NR 21fps
6NR 14FPS

Strangely in terms of transcoding files, looking at ARRI raw (Around 150fps on ALEXA65) and Venice XOCN (6K XOCN-ST 135fps) the 6800+6900XT set up is just as fast as as the one with W5700XT+6800+6900XT
The only advantage of the triple card set up is on redcode raw where it’s about 25% faster than a double card setup:

W5700XT+6800+6900XT
RED decomp+debayer 8192x4320 75-90fps (half res good) 55-70 (half premium) 47-57 (full res premium)

6800+6900XT
RED decomp+debayer 8192x4320 60-70fps (half res good) 44-50 (half premium) 40-45 (full res premium)

If someone is interested in my full test result I can post it here.

Regarding the cpu upgrade, it has been flawless for 3 months now! It was as simple as changing the CPU, it booted straight away and worked perfectly since then.
The only advantage of the 28 cores I see in my usage compared to a 16cores is for transcoding prores as it is very CPU intensive. Other than that when working with raw files that are well supported by the gpu, the CPU is never working at more than 60%.

Thomas

 

[SKB_1965]

Here's my results from my 2019 16" MacBook Pro with 8-Core i9 2.3 GHz with Radeon Pro 5500M with 8GB VRAM and two Radeon VII 16 GB eGpus in Razer Core X external enclosures.

5500M with dual Radeon VII eGPUs

09 Blur Nodes 42 FPS
18 Blur Nodes 23 FPS
30 Blur Nodes 12 FPS
66 Blur Nodes 6 FPS

1 TNR 2 30 FPS
2 TNR 2 18 FPS
4 TNR 2 09 FPS
6 TNR 2 06 FPS

Which makes an interesting comparison with your results.

 

[guillaum972]

Here’s my result from my Mid 2010 2x X6650 - 64Go - Radeon VII - Resolve 17.3 - Catalina with RadeonBoost kext

09 Blur: 45 fps
18 Blur: 23 fps
30 Blur: 14 fps
66 Blur: 8 fps

1 TNR: 39 fps
2 TNR: 26 fps
4 TNR: 14 fps
6 TNR: 11 fps

 

[Terraform2]

QUESTION: As seen below I am currently running a Hackintosh but would like to swap it out with a M1X Mac Mini or Powerbook if possible. I am working on location abroad and want to streamline my process.. I will only be back in the states for a short amount of time in the coming weeks -- From the few results seen in this thread with the M1 Mac Mini's do you think it is possible to achieve similar results to my current set up (I know too soon to tell) AND for someone who is working ONLY with my own BRAW footage (4k / 6k) does it matter that much? I know that the newer versions of DR are optimized for Apple Silicon and I don't mind backsliding a bit in performance if it streamlines the rest of my workflow while abroad... Any insight is welcomed... thx!

Hackintosh | i9 9900k | Radeon VII | 64GB DDR4:

UHD Clip only
09 Blur: 41 fps
18 Blur: 22 fps
30 Blur: 14 fps
66 Blur: 7 fps

1 TNR: 36 fps
2 TNR: 23 fps
4 TNR: 13 fps
6 TNR: 10 fps

 

[AndyKramer]

QUESTION: As seen below I am currently running a Hackintosh but would like to swap it out with a M1X Mac Mini or Powerbook if possible. I am working on location abroad and want to streamline my process.. I will only be back in the states for a short amount of time in the coming weeks -- From the few results seen in this thread with the M1 Mac Mini's do you think it is possible to achieve similar results to my current set up (I know too soon to tell) AND for someone who is working ONLY with my own BRAW footage (4k / 6k) does it matter that much? I know that the newer versions of DR are optimized for Apple Silicon and I don't mind backsliding a bit in performance if it streamlines the rest of my workflow while abroad... Any insight is welcomed... thx!

Hackintosh | i9 9900k | Radeon VII | 64GB DDR4:

UHD Clip only
09 Blur: 41 fps
18 Blur: 22 fps
30 Blur: 14 fps
66 Blur: 7 fps

1 TNR: 36 fps
2 TNR: 23 fps
4 TNR: 13 fps
6 TNR: 10 fps

If you are running a Hackintosh try to add the RadeonBoost kext to get the full potential of the Radeon VII.

 

[AndyKramer]

Here’s my result from my Mid 2010 2x X6650 - 64Go - Radeon VII - Resolve 17.3 - Catalina with RadeonBoost kext

09 Blur: 45 fps
18 Blur: 23 fps
30 Blur: 14 fps
66 Blur: 8 fps

1 TNR: 39 fps
2 TNR: 26 fps
4 TNR: 14 fps
6 TNR: 11 fps

Hi Guillaum, are you able to handle and export H265 with your config? Do you get hardware/gpu support for H265? I would really like to know as I might get an old mac pro 5,1 with CPU 6 cœurs 12 threads 3,33GHz/3,60 GHz (Westmere X5680) and install a radeon vii on it.

 

[guillaum972]

Hi Guillaum, are you able to handle and export H265 with your config? Do you get hardware/gpu support for H265? I would really like to know as I might get an old mac pro 5,1 with CPU 6 cœurs 12 threads 3,33GHz/3,60 GHz (Westmere X5680) and install a radeon vii on it.

Hi AndyKramer, yes my system have HEVC hardware acceleration. It's made UHD H265 render of RocketScience project in 6 sec.

 

[AndyKramer]

Hi AndyKramer, yes my system have HEVC hardware acceleration. It's made UHD H265 render of RocketScience project in 6 sec.

Thank you Guillaum972, just two more questions please :
- would I benefit (in video editing, color grading) from getting two xeon processors instead of one CPU 6 cœurs 12 threads 3,33GHz/3,60 GHz (Westmere X5680) ? I used previously an i7 3770k cpu on my older Hackintosh and never had any reason to update my system, as my watercooled radeon vii was doing extraordinary job.
- I looked on the motherboard of macpro 5,1, didn’t see any universal connections for the modern fans, and didn’t even have a connection pins for the usb in the motherboard. How is it possible to watercool a gpu on such motherboard ? I used Kraken x64 on my radeon vii in my old Hackintosh setup which needed one connection to the cpu fan, one connection for the pulp fan (I used a splitter to connect both fans on the same pin in the motherboard) and finally a connection to usb in the motherboard (the pins usb)..is there any possibility to achieve this in macpro 5,1?
I apologize to Andreeonline if my questions are not in the right place but I am really eager to find the answers.
Thank you very much

 

[GuillemV]

Mac Pro 2019 | 12 core | 2x 6900 XT

09 Blur: 72 fps
18 Blur: 37 fps
30 Blur: 22 fps
66 Blur: 10,5 fps

1 TNR: 60 fps
2 TNR: 29 fps
4 TNR: 15 fps
6 TNR: 10 fps

The results are somwhow underwhelming...One 6900XT delivers pretty much half this benchmark.
I haven't seen much difference from having it as an iMac Pro eGPU.
I kept the 580x for GUI, I have no screens attached to the 6900XTs.

@rondocap and other experts: any idea what could be happening?

 

[AndyKramer]

Mac Pro 2019 | 12 core | 2x 6900 XT

09 Blur: 72 fps
18 Blur: 37 fps
30 Blur: 22 fps
66 Blur: 10,5 fps

1 TNR: 60 fps
2 TNR: 29 fps
4 TNR: 15 fps
6 TNR: 10 fps

The results are somwhow underwhelming...One 6900XT delivers pretty much half this benchmark.
I haven't seen much difference from having it as an iMac Pro eGPU.
I kept the 580x for GUI, I have no screens attached to the 6900XTs.

@rondocap and other experts: any idea what could be happening?

Are you sure it's using the full potential of your GPU ? good way to check is to test it in windows platform as well. This is how we tweek the Hackintosh until we got the GPU working in its full potential.
For a Radeon VII for example, we have a radeonboost.kext, among other solutions as well..

 

[AndyKramer]

FINALLY my Hackintosh is up and running after ordering a 10 YEARS old motherboard the same model like my previous one that stopped working three weeks ago.
Davinci Resolve Candle Test UHD Prores (the middle clip)
System : Catalina, Hackintosh with Radeonboost.kext (to utilise full performance of Radeon VII), 1TB NVME system drive running on speed of. 2300 MB/s reading and writing.
GPU : Radeon VII METAL (Cooled with Kraken x63 + Kraken G12 mount
CPU i7 3770K (never mind, Davinci really uses 99% the GPU, H265 Hardware Acceleration working perfectly with Radeon VII )
Ram : 32GB DDR3
Important : Proxy playback set to OFF
Davinci Resolve Studio 17.4.2


9 Blur : 47 fps
18 Blur : 24 fps
30 Blur : 14 fps
66 Blur : 7 fps (GPU temp 59 degree, CPU temp: 32 degree)

1 TNR : 51 fps
2 TNR : 30 fps
4 TNR : 16 fps
6 TNR : 11 fps (GPU temp. 59 degree, CPU temp: 32 degree)

Very happy with my Hackintosh, 10 years of giving, nothing upgraded except the Radeon VII, running as a war horse, insanely long feature documentaries graded on this machine, the entire components are more than 10 years old, except for the NVME and the GPU
didn't have a reason to upgrade, except for 3 color grading monitors from EIZO.
I LOVE this machine!!!

 

[Mr_crow]

MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2021)
Apple M1 Max
32 GB

6K Prores | 4k Prores | 4k H265
09 Blur: 31 | 32 | 32
18 Blur: 15 | 16 | 16
30 Blur: 9 | 10 | 10
66 Blur: 4 | 5 | 5

01 TNR: 47 |49 | 49
02 TNR: 23 |24 | 24
04 TNR: 11 |12 | 12
06 TNR: 7 |8 |8

 

[kaitsun6]

MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2021)
Apple M1 Max
32 GB
10 Core CPU
24 Core GPU
16 Core Neural Engine


6K Prores | 4k Prores | 4k H265
09 Blur: 25 | 26 | 26
18 Blur: 13 | 13 | 13
30 Blur: 8 | 8 | 8
66 Blur: 4 | 4 | 4

01 TNR: 43 |46 | 44
02 TNR: 19 |21 | 21
04 TNR: 10 |11 | 110
06 TNR: 7 |7 |7

 

[peryhypen]

UHD Pro Res
Resolve 17.4.3
Timeline proxy mode off
Trashcan 8 core D700

01 TNR 16 fps
02 TNR 8 fps
04 TNR 4 fps
06 TNR 2 fps

09 Blur 16 fps
18 Blur 8 fps
30 Blur 4 fps
66 Blur 2 fps

No surprises really, but better than I expected. ?

 

[pattielipp]

4,1 flashed to 5,1 MacPro with dual X5690's for 12-core/24 thread, 64GB, 1TB NVME SSD for tests, Sapphire RX580 8GB, Mojave/Opencore, Resolve 17.4.4 Studio. timeline/proxy media off. Chrome open with 9 active tabs.

6K/UHD/HEVC
01 TNR 19/22/23
02 TNR 11/12/12
04 TNR 6/6/6
06 TNR 4/4/4

09 Blur 17/18/18
18 Blur 9/10/10
30 Blur 5/6/6
66 Blur 2/2/2

 

[chfilm]

I have some new results from my Mac Studio M1 Ultra 64c, 128gb :
Interesting that the mac pro beat the m1 ultra in blur tests but in TNR, the studio smoked the mac pro.
I also ran an after effects test comp on both machines.. Mac pro took 5:40min to render, the M1 needed only 3:30min. I'm a bit in shock!

Mac Pro 7.1 2019 | 16 core | two separate Vega Pro II 32GB:



09 Blur: 60 fps
18 Blur: 34 fps
30 Blur: 20 fps
66 Blur: 10 fps



1 TNR: 49 fps
2 TNR: 24 fps
4 TNR: 14 fps
6 TNR: 10 fps


Mac Studio M1 Ultra 64GPU


09 Blur: 54 fps
18 Blur: 28 fps
30 Blur: 16 fps
66 Blur: 8 fps

1 TNR: 60 fps
2 TNR: 40 fps
4 TNR: 20 fps
6 TNR: 14 fps