Dear Apple: Get notifications right!

[bmac4]

Except that is not us "IOS fans" who are going around boasting about how superior our notifications settings supposedly is.

From what I gather, you are the one who keeps claiming that if someone prefers notifications, it is their personal preference (implying that they are very much mistaken), yet for Android, it is an undeniable truth.

Can we just agree that whichever side we prefer, it is a matter of personal preference, and leave it at that?

I have not once claim android notification to be superior. I stated from the beginning that it was preference. Also I was not quoting you, so that was a response to his post not yours. You are not the one saying how much better iOS notifications are. If anyone likes iOS notifications better that is great. I am just arguing with people that keeping saying iOS way better. Both have pros and cons. If someone does talk about how much better iOS is. Then Yea I don't mind saying how I don't think it is. Still can think it is all preference.

 

[Hawkeye16]

If I do a google search for "notification light iphone" it comes back with over 5 million hits and the very first one is to a question about the iPhone 5 having this feature right on Apple's OWN STORE.

"notification light orange" over 15 million hits
"notification light astronaut" over 19 million hits
"notification light dragon" over 4 million hits
"notification light stapler" over 17 million hits

What is your point exactly? 5 million hits on a google search means nothing.

 

[appleisking]

I have not once claim android notification to be superior. I stated from the beginning that it was preference. Also I was not quoting you, so that was a response to his post not yours. You are not the one saying how much better iOS notifications are. If anyone likes iOS notifications better that is great. I am just arguing with people that keeping saying iOS way better. Both have pros and cons. If someone does talk about how much better iOS is. Then Yea I don't mind saying how I don't think it is. Still can think it is all preference.

Look we don't have to preface anything by saying it's my opinion or I think etc. that should be the norm and go without saying. If you think he's claiming his opinion to be a fact then just ignore him but no use arguing with him at every turn. You'll never convince him otherwise.

"notification light orange" over 15 million hits
"notification light astronaut" over 19 million hits
"notification light dragon" over 4 million hits
"notification light stapler" over 17 million hits

What is your point exactly? 5 million hits on a google search means nothing.

Please don't bring the LED convo back that ship has sailed.

 

[bmac4]

Look we don't have to preface anything by saying it's my opinion or I think etc. that should be the norm and go without saying. If you think he's claiming his opinion to be a fact then just ignore him but no use arguing with him at every turn. You'll never convince him otherwise.

Please don't bring the LED convo back that ship has sailed.

I agree and that is what I try to do is give my opinion not whatever one else should believe. I like android notifications the best. That is just me. I don't find them superior in anyway. I like iOS as well and switch between the 2. Over all I just like the way android handles notification. I just thought with Technarchy saying iOS was more robust, and had more options should be just his opinion. I did not take him as saying that as his opinion. Which like you said it is not worth arguing with someone that says those things.

 

[Technarchy]

Your options in iOS are in the notification center. Which amounts to, having a sound, having the notification on the lockscreen, having banners pop up, and if you want a badge on the app. Beyond that you can't do anything else. Yea that is real robust, and offers so many options.

That's a very incomplete summation of iOS notification features. Here's a better list of iOS notification features not on android.

-Phone wake up and display
-Displayed in lockscreen
-Direct access to app from lockscreen through notification
-Actionable banner which shortcuts to app from within any app
-Set display and priority order in notification center
-itemized presentation in notification center
-App notification groupings in notification center
-Swipe down for notification center from lock screen (iOS 7)
-App Badges
-abbreviated summary of information in notification/banner (Sender, subject...etc)


Take from that list whatever you like...

In contrast, android notification highlights not on iOS:
-Blinking LED on select devices
-Status bar badge
-Able to delete individual items from notification center

...feel free to add anything I missed...

 

[bmac4]

That's a very incomplete summation of iOS notification features. Here's a better list.

-Phone wake up and display
-Displayed in lockscreen
-Direct access to app from lockscreen through notification
-Actionable banner which shortcuts to app from within any app
-Set display and priority order in notification center
-itemized presentation in notification center
-App notification groupings in notification center
-Swipe down for notification center from lock screen (iOS 7)
-App Badges
-abbreviated summary of information in notification/banner (Sender, subject...etc)


Take from that list whatever you like...

Great so many options, but if you would like more than again you are S.O.L. I am done discussing this with you. Your are an Apple fan that only sees things one way. I prefer to see both sides. Sorry, but you just don't get it, and that is fine. There is just nothing left for me to talk with you about.

 

[Todd B.]

Great so many options, but if you would like more than again you are S.O.L. I am done discussing this with you. Your are an Apple fan that only sees things one way. I prefer to see both sides. Sorry, but you just don't get it, and that is fine. There is just nothing left for me to talk with you about.

You just dismissed his list but also criticised him for only seeing things "one way".....

 

[Tinmania]

Also you talked about banners. One of my least favorite thing about my iPhone 5, or any iPhone I have owned. Since iphones don't have a dedicated back button you need that space at the top of the screen to find the back button in the app. Let's say I am in the messaging app. I want to get out of the conversation I am in and go back, but at the same time my banner notification for tapatalk comes up. I don't want to respond to that right now, but I have to wait for it to go away to hit back. That does not seem to be that easy, or practical to me.

While I agree in that I don't like how the banner is tappable, I wanted to point out that you can swipe it from right to left to get rid of it right away. It can be a pain but at least you don't have to wait for it to go away on its own.




Michael

 

[bmac4]

You just dismissed his list but also criticised him for only seeing things "one way".....

Nope. I assume the person that quoted me before was a mod. Telling me it is better just to ignore people that want to share their opinions as facts. I could have gone down that list and said how android could do the same things, but to what end? Would he not just come back with more things he thinks the iPhone can do better in terms of notifications? It will never end. That is the only reason I stopped.

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While I agree in that I don't like how the banner is tappable, I wanted to point out that you can swipe it from right to left to get rid of it right away. It can be a pain but at least you don't have to wait for it to go away on its own.




Michael

Yea I just found that out. It helps, but those things can still get in the way.

 

[appleisking]

Nope. I assume the person that quoted me before was a mod. Telling me it is better just to ignore people that want to share their opinions as facts. I could have gone down that list and said how android could do the same things, but to what end? Would he not just come back with more things he thinks the iPhone can do better in terms of notifications? It will never end. That is the only reason I stopped.

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Yea I just found that out. It helps, but those things can still get in the way.

Just for clarification I am not a mod and by no means presume to dictate how you or anyone else should behave on this thread. Just some friendly advice to avoid a heated and meaningless argument.

 

[shandyman]

While I agree in that I don't like how the banner is tappable, I wanted to point out that you can swipe it from right to left to get rid of it right away. It can be a pain but at least you don't have to wait for it to go away on its own.




Michael

In iOS 7 it's swipe up rather than left or right

 

[bmac4]

Just for clarification I am not a mod and by no means presume to dictate how you or anyone else should behave on this thread. Just some friendly advice to avoid a heated and meaningless argument.

Yea sorry it sounded like something a mod would say. That is why I am done with this whole thing with Technarchy. When will it end if I just keep going back and forth. My point from the beginning was it all boils down to preference. Nothing more. It has gone way beyond that, and nothing is getting done. What else is there to say?

 

[skinnylegs]

Just to get back on track.....

I understand some peeps like their notifications indexed while others (like me) prefer having them listed in the order they come in. Obviously there is no best implementation. It simply comes down to personal preferences.

......but getting back to my original post. Why is it that notifications will tell you how many all-day events you have tomorrow but won't list them for the current dat? I can't imagine *anyone* thinking this is acceptable. Also, I can't imagine *not* wanting to interact with notifications from within the notifications veil?

 

[bmac4]

That's a very incomplete summation of iOS notification features. Here's a better list of iOS notification features not on android.

-Phone wake up and display
-Displayed in lockscreen
-Direct access to app from lockscreen through notification
-Actionable banner which shortcuts to app from within any app
-Set display and priority order in notification center
-itemized presentation in notification center
-App notification groupings in notification center
-Swipe down for notification center from lock screen (iOS 7)
-App Badges
-abbreviated summary of information in notification/banner (Sender, subject...etc)


Take from that list whatever you like...

In contrast, android notification highlights not on iOS:
-Blinking LED on select devices
-Status bar badge
-Able to delete individual items from notification center

...feel free to add anything I missed...

Ok just to make everyone happy I will go down this list.

1. My nexus 4 lights up with active notification to let me know I have something I need to address.

2. My nexus 4 also has lock screen widget which I can show all of my notification as well. I choose not to have a widget like that because that is something I did not like about my iphone 5. Anyone could pickup my phone and see my messages, emails, and any other notifications I had.

3. Again with the widget on the lock screen I can click on it and it will take me to that app to the very place the notification came from.

4. I get a little icon at the top of the status bar that I can slide down and see what the notification is and click on it.

5. I really could careless about which app is shown first. Not a big deal to me.

6. I go into any app and set the notification the way I want them.

7. All my notification appear together in the drop down. All my MacRumors notification are grouped together, all my emails form gmail are grouped together, all my work emails are grouped together, and all my android forums notifications are grouped together.

8. IOS 7 last time I checked that was in beta. I don't believe we can count those yet because unless you are a developer, or downloaded it illegally then you don't have iOS 7.

9. Great another thing I did not like about ios. Also there is an app for that in the playstore.

10. I can swipe my finger down on a notification to see what the details are. I like that a lot better because I sometimes just want to know what the notification is.

Again all you did is give more detail of what I already said iOS did. I gave a summary, and you went into detail. Thanks for that. I can't see that iOS does anything you can't do on android. Just how you like it done. Oh and android does do a few things iOS can't for notifications.


Oh and that will be the last response I have for you. Feel free to address anything I missed. I just don't see this going anywhere. You choose to see iOS as better. I say they both work very well, and it is all about which one a person prefers. I don't think anything is going to change.

 

[robotphood]

I had a back to back springboard crash and reboot one day when I really wanted to get something done. I was done after that. Went back to stock immediately after.

Stability is something I put a premium on, not tweakability, and my stock iPhone 5 and GS4 are aces in that regard.

There are certainly shoddy tweaks but I find most of the time it's incompatibility between tweaks. The good ones however have great support from Devs that will listen to your issues in my experience. I probably trouble shoot more on my gs4 but then I tweak it a lot more. Although stable, stock touchwiz is so bloated and full of lag and hangups I find the experience frustrating out of the box. The theming is also quite hideous but that's my opinion.

Just to get back on track.....

I understand some peeps like their notifications indexed while others (like me) prefer having them listed in the order they come in. Obviously there is no best implementation. It simply comes down to personal preferences.

......but getting back to my original post. Why is it that notifications will tell you how many all-day events you have tomorrow but won't list them for the current dat? I can't imagine *anyone* thinking this is acceptable. Also, I can't imagine *not* wanting to interact with notifications from within the notifications veil?

I'm totally with you on this. The today and missed tab is nearly useless for me. I wish the left/right gesture was used for dismissing notifications and to activate actions like how lockinfo does it. Hell, even mail and messaging app do this with a left swipe. Adding the same function to notifications wouldn't introduce anything new or break consistency for those that don't care for it.

 

[onthecouchagain]

I can't tell you how glad I am that Android doesn't do notifications like iOS. <-- This isn't an Android vs. iOS comment. I'd say the same thing if it was in reverse.

I can appreciate notifications lighting up in the lock screen, though. But other than that, I love my notification lights. I love my discrete and subtle notification icons in the status bar. I love the choice of taking action on it if I want to or not (versus a notification banner that drops down and blocks the screen and/or impedes navigation -- I still find this insane). For those who insist on having lock screen widgets, there are apps for that and/or Moto X.

Not sure why this conversation is going so far, but whatevs.

 

[gotluck]

2. My nexus 4 also has lock screen widget which I can show all of my notification as well. I choose not to have a widget like that because that is something I did not like about my iphone 5. Anyone could pickup my phone and see my messages, emails, and any other notifications I had.

Which widget is this? I am looking for this.

All the widgets Ive seen that show all notifications (including a preview - first line of text or whatever) are buggy and/or resource hogs.

 

[bmac4]

Which widget is this? I am looking for this.

All the widgets Ive seen that show all notifications (including a preview - first line of text or whatever) are buggy and/or resource hogs.

Like I said I am not a fan of having lock screen notifications, so I downloaded one someone suggested on here a while back. I don't remember the name because I deleted soon after I had it. Sorry someone else on here might know this better.

 

[C DM]

2. My nexus 4 also has lock screen widget which I can show all of my notification as well. I choose not to have a widget like that because that is something I did not like about my iphone 5. Anyone could pickup my phone and see my messages, emails, and any other notifications I had.

But can't you control what, if anything at all, is on the lockscreen for your iPhone 5 (in iOS essentially)?

 

[shandyman]

But can't you control what, if anything at all, is on the lockscreen for your iPhone 5 (in iOS essentially)?

Yes you can. Guessing that person didn't check it out properly before bailing. It's simple too

 

[bmac4]

Which widget is this? I am looking for this.

All the widgets Ive seen that show all notifications (including a preview - first line of text or whatever) are buggy and/or resource hogs.

What phone and version of android are you using? If you have android 4.3 you can download dynamic notification app in the playstore that works like active notifications on the moto x. It is not like ios, but it gives you lockscreen notification in a cool way.

 

[gotluck]

What phone and version of android are you using? If you have android 4.3 you can download dynamic notification app in the playstore that works like active notifications on the moto x. It is not like ios, but it gives you lockscreen notification in a cool way.

Interesting, thank you - I'm on GS4 4.3 - looking into it. I don't necessarily care if the screen wakes on notification, I just want a preview before inputting the PIN. This may do it.

 

[bmac4]

Interesting, thank you - I'm on GS4 4.3 - looking into it. I don't necessarily care if the screen wakes on notification, I just want a preview before inputting the PIN. This may do it.

Yea check it out. I like it a lot.

 

[THE JUICEMAN]

you want on screen notifications on android? There's an app for that (<-- sound familiar?).

You want notification light on ios? Out of luck.

+1

 

[THE JUICEMAN]

Also you talked about banners. One of my least favorite thing about my iPhone 5, or any iPhone I have owned. Since iphones don't have a dedicated back button you need that space at the top of the screen to find the back button in the app. Let's say I am in the messaging app. I want to get out of the conversation I am in and go back, but at the same time my banner notification for tapatalk comes up. I don't want to respond to that right now, but I have to wait for it to go away to hit back. That does not seem to be that easy, or practical to me.

This happens a lot. Very annoying. However, you can swipe away the banner in iOS 6 and it gets easier in iOS 7. You just swipe up. Android does it better IMO.