They should. Their deal makes this Apple deal look funny - $617 million vs 195 million (speculated)
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Department of Defense Ordering 650,000 iOS Devices? [Updated: DoD Denies]
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They should. Their deal makes this Apple deal look funny - $617 million vs 195 million (speculated)
Just like I said to the other guy they're probably bringing it in on Toughbooks or Ruggedized Laptops. I don't think a MacBook Pro (or most conventional PC laptops for that matter) would survive very long in environments where it's easy to break/damage expensive technology. Until Apple starts producing Toughbooks most of them are going to be on Windows.
*Just a side note, I don't own any Intel Macs but am Talented and can prove it
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Bob, stop it. It's simply a fact that if you make something Open Source it's more prone to security risks than software that isn't. Android is flooded with malware and security flaws. Apple's iOS also comes with it's vulnerabilities and flaws but they are far less likely to, because there are no developers reviewing the direct code except apple. If you can't grasp this concept you shouldn't be discussing the subject at all. When it comes to secure devices, you simply don't recommend an android device.
Really? of all answers you decided to go with that one?
What we need is some big buyer like DOD to demand that future operating systems continue to be installable on the existing hardware. It is ridiculous how fast Apple is outdating hardware. The only excuse is greed. App developers are doing the same thing. Apps that ran fine on my iPodTouch all of a sudden get updated by the developer to require the newest iOS and I get that nasty little warning that X can not be installed because it requires the latest iOS. This is very wasteful. Very not green. Very greedy of Apple and the developers.
When you compare $190 Million for portable music and gaming devices to $2.4 Billion establishment costs for the unmanned drones flying overhead of most US big cities these days, it's a bargain.
Just like I said to the other guy they're probably bringing it in on Toughbooks or Ruggedized Laptops. I don't think a MacBook Pro (or most conventional PC laptops for that matter) would survive very long in environments where it's easy to break/damage expensive technology. Until Apple starts producing Toughbooks most of them are going to be on Windows.
*Just a side note, I don't own any Intel Macs but am Talented and can prove it
I believe you!! (My laptop is a Windows machine) I also still have my G4 PB - fixed it
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So do you have any actual specific reasons for why open source would be better, or do you just think it's better simply because you like open source philosophically?
I ask because if you had to manage a whole department of people all of whom have a device, it becomes a logistical nightmare if everyone has devices that they are free to modify however they please. I don't imagine that the DoD likes herding cats.
That's a remarkably bad idea. No possible benefit of "open source" could justify infecting the military with the biggest virus magnet since Windows. Even worse considering that Android itself is essentially Google's own spyware that can and does snoop on everything you do and even let's their carrier partners install their own key loggers.
There are probably some niche military applications for stand alone embedded systems strictly on private networks where Android might be useful, but otherwise the only good reason for the Pentagon to purchase Android phones would be to donate them to enemies as digital warfare Trojan horses.
Which is a marketing lie.
The only mobile devices using unlocked open source forks of Andriod are cheap Chinese and India made ones. The DOD isn't going to buy Chinese knockoffs. You can't get source to the actual OS fork used in latest Motorola or Samsung phones and tablets.
Maybe the DOD should have gone with webOS? That's open source as well.
Furthermore, all source code developed in the U.S. is likely open source to the NSA.
I believe you!! (My laptop is a Windows machine) I also still have my G4 PB - fixed it
Alright, I just have to put my two cents in
My main machine is a Windows laptop (Which I like a lot) and my secondary machines are Apple computers, both of which I like a lot. Despite their age, I find that they are both solid machines. And quite useful.
I'm not really a "PCs are better" or a "Macs rules" person. I'm more of a "Why can't we just have both?" person.
Very valid question: I was not suggesting the your users participate in modifying the code on their employer's operational smartphones. The codebase deployed should be managed at some level.
My point is the superior quality of the code available to be managed. iOS users have to "believe," while Android users benefit from a wide user/developer community reviewing out in the open. And of course, you will hear more about the problems with open source software---because it is in the open. Apple gets to hide whatever problems it finds.
FYI (and everyone else who keeps complaining about iOS devices being made in China): http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/01/31/how-much-of-the-iphone-is-made-in-china/
The phone is designed in the USA. The software is created in the USA. A whole boatload of developers in the USA make money creating apps for iOS.
The vast majority of the money on the sale of an iPhone goes to Apple. And they sell of lot of product outside the US. Again, a big chunk comes back to Apple. In the USA.
The components come from a mix of different countries including Taiwan, Japan, Korea, UK, Germany, and...wait for it...the USA. If the phone was assembled in China (and not Taiwan), then a grand total of $10 is what's paid to a Chinese company for assembly. $10.
Irrelevant rebuttal. The original comment was correct - by every measure, Android is dramatically less secure than iOS in the real world, philosophical arguments about generalized open soure concepts not withstanding. Just look at the mountain of malware infesting Android and the spyware they allow their carrier partners to install.
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Biggest regret of the revolutionary war is not finishing the takeover of Canada so we could have gotten those hippies in line.
If your smartphones are managed so that they can't be modified, then it's not open source anymore.
You need to get specific if you want to prove your point. What's a real-life example of what you're talking about with regards to some software that the DoD might use, where Android would be far superior to iOS with regards to either the apps or the OS itself?
Apple an "American" Company?
If the Pentagon wants to spend this money they should use this leverage to force Apple to do some manufacturing in America. Or at the very least start bringing their money back to this country instead of being such cheap, selfish, bastards. And I say this typing on my macbook pro.
Other than having a corporate office in America in what way is Apple an "American" company? The make all their products using cheap labor in China and hide their money overseas to avoid paying American Taxes. Apple is many things but they certainly aren't an "American" company by any stretch of the imagination.
If the Pentagon wants to spend this money they should use this leverage to force Apple to do some manufacturing in America. Or at the very least start bringing their money back to this country instead of being such cheap, selfish, bastards. And I say this typing on my macbook pro.
Huh ?
Kind of like this ?
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/03/20/new-iphone-4-passcode-security-flaw-discovered-in-ios-6-1-3/
Open source software does not belong in widespread usage on government systems.
If you think there's a problem with government systems now wait until every script kiddie gets ahold of android in the very closed government environment .
Being the love child of Bernie Mac and Bea Arthur does not make you the descendent of a general Maccarthur
Remener that iOS (& OS/X) are Unix based and have benefitted from a much more extensive history of open source security improvements to their core OS.
Android on the other hand already has a well established track record of vastly greater security risks than iOS, with Google's record of snooping their users data at every opportunity not the least of it's problems.