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icanhazmac

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It's not surprising to me that the two most negative reactions are making people angry and demanding an explanation for their usage. You may not demand that someone reply to you when you're downvoted, but enough people do that I think it proves my point that the dislike (and the negative reactions more broadly) is fundamentally different from the others. It's just silly to pretend that a post getting a lot of likes is no different than a post getting a lot of dislikes. Of course it's different. One is negative, one is bad, one makes the poster frustrated/angry/upset.

If you are not surprised by peoples reaction to the red emoji then why would you use them? If you claim that red emoji are negative, bad and make posters frustrated/angry/upset why would you use them?

You also did not address the fact that you, and others, incorrectly label the thumbs down emoji as "dislike" when it is in fact "disagree" and you also didn't address the obvious differences and reactions to those two.
 

VisceralRealist

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Is it any business of yours what reactions I use? You might have a case if I overtly claimed "I never use the disagree, and that makes me superior". But I never said that.

What I said was that some people are upset when they receive negative reactions, especially when they receive a lot of them. That is evidenced by the fact that users sometimes demand an explanation when they receive them, whereas no one demands an explanation for "likes". And I think it is obvious why (because one is negative). I never claimed that negative reactions shouldn't exist or that I don't use them myself. My position in this thread is that the current restrictions on their use are fine, and I have not changed that position. I was speaking of negativity to highlight the differences between the negative reactions and the positive reactions and how they are received.

(I did address that I mistakenly referred to "disagree" as "dislike" in my most recent post, though I added it on later, so you might not have caught it.)
 

icanhazmac

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(I did address that I mistakenly referred to "disagree" as "dislike" in my most recent post, though I added it on later, so you might not have caught it.)

Fair enough across the board. Apologies if I misinterpreted the intention of your post but when you stated that you understood why some people were upset by red emoji, especially without a typed reason, but then used those emoji yourself it came across as hypocritical.
 
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za9ra22

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Best I can do is an ANGRY button. Grrrrr!
Yeah, what's up with that?! I didn't even know there was a dislike button since I really don't bother with the news threads. Ignorance clearly wasn't the bliss I hoped for!

I have to wonder why it's better to be angry with each other than merely have a bit of dislike... but it's the internet, dislike probably doesn't get anywhere near the same number of clicks.
 
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avz

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Not sure where you are going with this, can you expand on your point?
We reveal "something about ourselves" through our reactions. Whether in real life or online. This is how the scammers know that people are literally "leaking information".

In essence reducing amount of "reactions" can be seen as a way of "protecting the privacy of users".
 
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saudor

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I find the ignore button to be way more efficient. e.g. The 8gb RAM threads are full of people who don't belong in forums and just start fights. Knock out some of the main posters there and this site is suddenly so much better lol.

Add clever use of adblock to filter out by topic keywords and you won't even see those controversial threads.
 

icanhazmac

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We reveal "something about ourselves" through our reactions. Whether in real life or online. This is how the scammers know that people are literally "leaking information".

In essence reducing amount of "reactions" can be seen as a way of "protecting the privacy of users".

So I shouldn't be reacting to your posts with a response to protect my privacy?
 
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avz

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So I shouldn't be reacting to your posts with a response to protect my privacy?
I personally welcome all responses, "reactions" or ignores to my posts and have never complained about it.

How people value their privacy is none of my business. Let's be honest, most people don't value it at all.
 
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bousozoku

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I often get a Disagree for a post that I can’t for the life of me figure out what was controversial. I really wish folks would give a quick response saying what they disagree with.

A couple of folks did this so much I looked at their postings. It was just a full page of Dislikes and no text ever posted.
I usually get it when they want something from Apple that makes no sense for a business to do.

I still remember over the years that people have considered that Apple is a philanthropic organization, not a business.
 

bousozoku

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I find the ignore button to be way more efficient. e.g. The 8gb RAM threads are full of people who don't belong in forums and just start fights. Knock out some of the main posters there and this site is suddenly so much better lol.

Add clever use of adblock to filter out by topic keywords and you won't even see those controversial threads.
It's become worse over the years. I suspect people aren't trying to be their best. They're just bored from doing nothing at all.
 
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LewisClark25

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Honestly, the limit on using the "disagree" reaction is quite frankly idiotic. If someone says something moronic, I'm going to call them out on it.
 

VisceralRealist

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I'll tell you one thing: having your "disagree" limit reached on a bunch of removed posts seems a bit unfair. Especially when something I posted had 25+ likes and it got modded because the post I quoted was modded and now I've lost all those likes, but I still can't disagree with anything... 🤔

Oh well, this is what I get for venturing into the "Political News" section. 🙄
 
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turbineseaplane

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Why is there still a daily limit for this?

Because some people enjoy going around and "thumbing down" everything someone says who they personally dislike

i.e. It's used for trolling since Emoji reactions don't respect your ignore list, and trolling folks know this, so they use it to continue to irritate people.

It's very toxic

I'd argue the "thumbs down" should be done away with
 

rm5

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I'd argue the "thumbs down" should be done away with
I agree. Supposedly (I have no proof, this is just what's been explained to me), the "thumbs down" reaction causes comments to sink to the bottom in the normal news articles (for people looking at the articles normally—on MacRumors.com, not on the forums). So that makes the comments with the most likes stick to the top.

I'd argue that comments should appear in chronological order, as they do on the forums.
 
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rm5

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We reveal "something about ourselves" through our reactions. Whether in real life or online. This is how the scammers know that people are literally "leaking information".

In essence reducing amount of "reactions" can be seen as a way of "protecting the privacy of users".
Don't we also through regular posts? Actually, it strikes me that we reveal more about ourselves through writing posts than emoji reactions.

Also, concerning your second statement, using this logic, a person reducing the number of posts they make will also hypothetically increase their privacy.

I don't really get how reactions = compromising privacy
 

bousozoku

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OP, when I find myself reaching for the dislike button too frequently for a particular poster, the Ignore button is my saviour.
🙂

I just hope there is no limit to the number of people I can blissfully ignore…
I don't even consider the Ignore button. When I was a moderator, I couldn't do that. I had to be aware of everything that transpired.
 
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avz

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Don't we also through regular posts? Actually, it strikes me that we reveal more about ourselves through writing posts than emoji reactions.

Also, concerning your second statement, using this logic, a person reducing the number of posts they make will also hypothetically increase their privacy.

I don't really get how reactions = compromising privacy
Correct, the posts are included.

The AI will "profile" people based on their likes and dislikes. Most people would have no problem judging the age of the average user on MR.

Bullies don't just attack anybody, they are looking for a reaction. It is very easy to see an "appeasement/weakness" in posts and reactions.
 
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