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Do Android Phone Progressively Get Slower?
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Please do show me where Samsung is working with Google to bring improvements to Touchwiz.
@Surf Donkey @jamezr @epicrayban To clear up any confusion, I was asking about Android phones generally becoming slower and less responsive over time, without regard to software updates. My iPhone 5 is "slow" relative to when it ran iOS 6. But I know that's the software and not the phone crapping out. Would any Android phones perform four years after release like my iPhone? You know how some computers will just become slower over time and no one can figure out why? Like that.
Because Android gives apps a little more control over system processes, I assume that OS/system file bloat occurs more quickly on Android than iOS. I haven't used Android since 2.3 so it's not for me to say, however.
Because Android gives apps a little more control over system processes, I assume that OS/system file bloat occurs more quickly on Android than iOS. I haven't used Android since 2.3 so it's not for me to say, however.
You showed me that Samsung is supporting older phones half a year after other OEMs. yes.
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Take both phones, no software updates, Touchwiz and Samsung have worse memory optimization and more bloat. They will lag faster than stock or near stock android phones. Just from the sheer weight of the OS and added apps/services.
I do think a stock android phone will perform better after 4 years if you install updates. Unlike Apple and iOS, I find that updates in Nexus devices have better optimizations and run even faster. If you choose not to update at all, then depending on the apps, performance would probably degrade over time. As with Apple too though. All computers need a refresh ever so often, even if it is just a factory reset. But again, Samsung will show it way before anything in the Nexus line.
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Is there any evidence of this other than anecdotal? I'm asking genuinely as a current Samsung owner.
I feel like a lot of what you're saying here about TouchWiz is no longer true, but I could be wrong.
I haven't experienced it yet with my S6. It's no longer my daily driver, but it's snappier than ever before thanks to the MM update. I've not yet witnessed it slowing down on its own. Ditto for the S7E.
Maybe this is a thing from old-TouchWiz? The newer and cleaner TouchWiz versions may not have this anymore? Either way, could you point to more info? Like I said, as a current Samsung owner, this would very much interest and concern me.
It shows that they support older phones just the same as other OEMs. Your Samsung hate really shines through.
Then some have complained of lag on pure stock phones like the Nexus 6P
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ugh-to-switch-for-good.1974763/#post-22953337
That's what I thought we were talking about. Thanks for confirming.
Personally, I haven't experienced any "natural slow down" with my Samsung S6 and S7 Edge as of yet. I don't know if it's true that Android devices just slow down over time. I guess it could happen as per the poster above who said if you leave too many apps installed, their processes might run in the background, but that just seems to me more management than it is a "natural slow down." If it's as simple to solve as uninstalling apps you don't use, then I don't think you have anything to worry about.
At least, it's not something I'm aware of as being an issue for the Android OS. Unless someone can point to evidence suggesting otherwise...?
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Right. Lucky for me, I didn't experience TouchWiz in its terrible years.
I posed the question, too, that perhaps this is something "old-TouchWiz" used to do. I'm not sure the newer/cleaner TouchWiz will do the same. I have not seen or experienced it yet.
And your Samsung lovefest is equally as bad
<--- did that just for you.....Yes, lagging when gaming exists on the Nexus 6P. But not on the HTC 10. Think it comes down to that Snapdragon 810 throttling. And I am not denying app lag for any device. That will always happen. Snapchat runs like crap on all Android compared to iOS. But for core OS optimization..... I honestly can't believe you claim to be "neutral" yet still feel the need to back Samsung on these petty arguments. Just look at the weight of the OS. It is simple to see.
OP, the take away here is...
I think it's safe for you to try Android. There is no better time. Plenty of great options at varying price ranges. If you look at the main players, I think you and your Android device will be safe.
If you want something cleaner and expect updates in a timely fashion (as you're used to on the iPhone), I vote either the HTC 10 or the Nexus 6P. Of, if you can, wait for the HTC Nexus coming later this year. Moto X Play is another good option.
That's my advice. I wouldn't worry about "natural slow down" over time. I wouldn't worry about it for modern Samsung devices either.
Hope you find the right device for you!
I think it's safe for you to try Android. There is no better time. Plenty of great options at varying price ranges. If you look at the main players, I think you and your Android device will be safe.
If you want something cleaner and expect updates in a timely fashion (as you're used to on the iPhone), I vote either the HTC 10 or the Nexus 6P. Of, if you can, wait for the HTC Nexus coming later this year. Moto X Play is another good option.
That's my advice. I wouldn't worry about "natural slow down" over time. I wouldn't worry about it for modern Samsung devices either.
Hope you find the right device for you!
Nice to hear you are getting great performance without disabling any packages. Perhaps they have improved since MM. But that is only out 2 months, so really hard to say for the long term (1-2 years out).
No....you just try to interject as much Samsung hate as you can in every thread. Don't try to deflect now.And your Samsung lovefest is equally as bad
Yes, lagging when gaming exists on the Nexus 6P. But not on the HTC 10. Think it comes down to that Snapdragon 810 throttling. And I am not denying app lag for any device. That will always happen. Snapchat runs like crap on all Android compared to iOS. But for core OS optimization..... I honestly can't believe you claim to be "neutral" yet still feel the need to back Samsung on these petty arguments. Just look at the weight of the OS. It is simple to see.
No one here said anything about Samsung until you did then it was all negative. You interject your dis like for Samsung every chance you can. Then is more YOUR personal opinion than anything else.
Then there are those that have older Samsung phones that don't the issues you said existed on all Samsung phones. You have been proven wrong by people that actually OWN the phones.
You made this into a HTC versus Samsung battle and hijacked the thread. You could have just said hey OP you should try an HTC phone like the M10 and praised the virtues on the HTC 10. Or try the up coming Nexus phones. But instead you chose to rant about Samsung.
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look right above your post to disprove what you just said.....
from first hand experience
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ively-get-slower.1975140/page-2#post-22954229
What are you talking about?? I answered a question from the OP. I was the first post. I said Samsung gets progressively slower, but not all Android devices. Yes, it is my opinion. And I can be certain you will show up as well to get all offended if I don't say anything but the most praise for Samsung.
Well my first hand experience was different. Note 4 owned it, lag fest. Galaxy S6 owned it, garbage battery.
This what I am talking about......you could have pointed the OP the direction of say HTC or LG or a Nexus one....
but instead it is negative Samsung again and again....and again...
The OP said nothing about Samsung....you did..
Then contradict yourself with the bolded above. In the HTC thread you said you were going to return your HTC 10 because of poor customer service. So how is that long term support? That's not the same as quick updates. How will horrible customer service add up to long term support if you have a warranty claim?
Your experience is not the same as the generalized negative hate you spew in every thread you can about Samsung.
People in this thread dispute your Samsung hate.
Then isn't it unfair to warn the OP about Samsung devices slowing down naturally when there isn't enough evidence of it?
And no slow down in my S6 either. None that I've witnessed yet. That's over a year old.
Just would like to see evidence that Samsung devices slow down over time. Again, as a current Samsung owner, I'd like to know for myself. And evidence of the newer and cleaner TouchWiz, because unless the OP is planning on picking up a Galaxy S4 or S5 or some other old mid-tier Samsung device, it's misleading. You're just propagating the fears and concerns of yesteryear's TouchWiz.
Even I recommended HTC or Nexus or Motorola to the OP because I agree with you, those will likely be the cleaner/simpler, and better updated devices. But I've yet to see any evidence of your reasons why the OP should steer clear of Samsung.
this last year before the S7 came out....
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/11/25/crazy-rumor-google-to-help-samsung-optimize-touchwiz/
Why is garbage battery related to samsung phones slowing down?
My S6 edge was terrible battery wise which is why I sold it but with the S7 edge? great battery life that lasts me all day easily. A phone's battery isn't related to a slow device thread surely?
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Sometimes consistant updates isn't always a good thing. My battery life on my 6S plus has got alot worse since I kept updated the IOS 9 for example. Since all the new 9.1, 9.2,9.3 it seems to of made my battery die alot quicker than before.
Maybe the S6 is the first example of a turn-around for Samsung. However, HISTORICALLY, Samsung devices have gotten worse/laggier with each update. You've had your S7 for, what, 3 months? Hardly enough time to form an opinion about the long-term snappiness of the device, especially after OS updates. Take my tablet that is just over 2 years old, it was a YEAR before Samsung finally released Lollipop for it and the performance of it is hit-and-miss. Oh yeah, it's also now stuck on Lollipop as Samsung won't give it any MM love. Meanwhile, M appears to be the end of OS support for the 2013 Nexus 7 but that device IS now 3 years old. Oh yeah, the Nexus 7 will likely continue to get monthly security updates for another year which is more than can be said for a Samsung device as Samsung has not yet proven it will keep up with the monthly cycle.
Yes, I was talking about that because it shows a lack of long-term support for devices.
long term support for tablets certainly isn't great thats for sure. Tablets seem to be where samsung aren't as pro active on
I know this is MacRUMORS but you were just calling me out for lack of facts, then you make a statement, and post the source with the title "Crazy Rumor".
Don't you think Samsung would have said something at the announce or in the presses if they were actually working with Google to improve Touchwiz? As you told me, you can just cloud the facts because you of your love for this company.
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Well if they were proper updates, they certainly wouldn't slow down your device. Never saw this on a Nexus phone. Battery life can go up and down with updates though.
And I didn't own an S6 enough to experience the eventual slowdown. Luckily I returned that turd within the window (with a nice restocking fee).
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I understand that's frustrating. The OP is talking about smartphones. And he's clarified he's talking about natural slow down; not a bad update.
Again, if there is evidence of natural slow down of Samsung devices with the newer and cleaner TouchWiz, I'd like to see the evidence and know for myself.
It was talked about all over the S7 threads before and after the S7/Edge was released. So where is your proof that the Samsung phones slow down after a time?
Where is there evidence that the s6 naturally slows down? As someone with the s6 for over a year, I have not experienced this slow down.
My daily driver is a Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge. There's zero lag and I've had it for about a year now. It's as fast as it's been on day one. Android is fantastic. iOS is fantastic, too. They're not all that different in terms of average usage, really, so I wouldn't worry at all and, as has been said in this thread, it's a great time to use Android.
I do believe this, but mainly because of the planned obsolete thing. I think some manufacturers like Samsung release software updates that perform worse than the original firmware. Those updates aren't as optimised as the release software, where you want to have the best performance possible to make buyers buy your product. The opposite happens with time. The software updates aren't optimised and performance takes a hit.
That's my theory.
Also, newer updates demand more resources and power, and that may slow down the device if hardware is not enough for that new software and its features.
That's my theory.
Also, newer updates demand more resources and power, and that may slow down the device if hardware is not enough for that new software and its features.