Do you get irritated/raged when having the PC vs Mac debate?

[Melrose]

I get irritated only when I see people who fanboy their own opinions into gospel. If you want to quote statistics about Vista, fine. Yeah, it had major problems, but get off your high horse and lighten up about it. Both aisles need to lighten up over it. You buy what works for you.

 

[Leet Apple]

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I have gotten into those arguments before but most of those people have purchased iPhones and Macs because of me...when People argue just provide the pros and cons of their own system and it normally shows you have some understanding for their platform


I use both windows and Mac which allows me to be able to have successful debates

 

[dukebound85]

nope and have never had a debate about it either. how does this debate even start in normal conversation??

 

[R94N]

nope and have never had a debate about it either. how does this debate even start in normal conversation??

Maybe if you have blind fanboys as friends

 

[steve2112]

nope and have never had a debate about it either. how does this debate even start in normal conversation??

You don't hang around with many computer geeks, do you?

 

[mammadon]

I prefer PCs in honesty. PCs would be near perfect if MS' dominance in OS' would be broken. The fact that Windows is far from perfect is not a slight on PCs. How can it be? Apple is the only company making Macs, it owns Mac OS. There is no one company that owns PCs, or exclusively makes them. Windows became strategic lock-in/the proprietary choice via market forces, if anything. ****, the company that created the standard PC format doesn't even make them any more.

 

[nick9191]

I don't argue with anyone on this matter, online or IRL. Used to as a child.. waste of time.

If anyone disses my Mac, I ignore them. I think my Mac is the best computer in the world, that's my opinion. I don't give a crap about your opinion, why care about mine?

 

[KnightWRX]

****, the company that created the standard PC format doesn't even make them any more.

I think a lot of this PC talk doesn't make sense to a lot of people because they don't know that PC is an abriged way of saying IBM Compatible PC. Macs are PC, Amigas were PCs, Tandys were PCs, but there was only one kind that mattered, the IBM compatible PC kind.

 

[chrono1081]

Yeah, no kidding. More brainwashing on the Mac side.

I completely disagree with this. Take a look on any forum (Engadget, Gizmodo, even Mac Rumors) and you will see all this mac hate generated out of no where for no reason (you won't even see a Mac person make a post). I have yet to see a single person I'd call a Mac fanboy, but I see a ton of Mac haters.

@The OP: Yes, I hate these debates and always try to avoid them. As a Windows technician I know Windows inside and out and I know a lot about Macs as well. Any time I try to offer an educated debate usually the person who started it becomes a dribbling, slobbering mess who can only use the "fanboy" defense and tell me I'm wrong on certain points we are debating about despite me offering proof to them (which they never look at).

 

[KnightWRX]

I completely disagree with this. Take a look on any forum (Engadget, Gizmodo, even Mac Rumors) and you will see all this mac hate generated out of no where for no reason (you won't even see a Mac person make a post). I have yet to see a single person I'd call a Mac fanboy, but I see a ton of Mac haters.

Uh ? If you haven't seen a Mac Fanboy on Macrumors, there's something wrong.

 

[steve2112]

I completely disagree with this. Take a look on any forum (Engadget, Gizmodo, even Mac Rumors) and you will see all this mac hate generated out of no where for no reason (you won't even see a Mac person make a post). I have yet to see a single person I'd call a Mac fanboy, but I see a ton of Mac haters.

@The OP: Yes, I hate these debates and always try to avoid them. As a Windows technician I know Windows inside and out and I know a lot about Macs as well. Any time I try to offer an educated debate usually the person who started it becomes a dribbling, slobbering mess who can only use the "fanboy" defense and tell me I'm wrong on certain points we are debating about despite me offering proof to them (which they never look at).

You obviously have never seen any posts from certain people around here. Steve Jobs could be caught on tape kicking puppies for fun, and some posters around here would defend it. As for other boards, read some Android stories at Engadget, for example. People will smugly talk about how great their iPad/iPhone is. Granted, the anti-Apple fans tend to show much more outright hatred, but they are there.

 

[Stella]

You obviously have never seen any posts from certain people around here. Steve Jobs could be caught on tape kicking puppies for fun, and some posters around here would defend it. As for other boards, read some Android stories at Engadget, for example. People will smugly talk about how great their iPad/iPhone is. Granted, the anti-Apple fans tend to show much more outright hatred, but they are there.

I've seen the opposite: Apple fans going red in the face while having a "PC vs Mac" argument!

Either way, its quite funny, people getting sooo wound up about something that is really, quite trivial.

 

[RedTomato]

I love my Macbook to bits, and all my family use Macs now because of me, but managing PCs at work is what earns me enough money to buy my mac gear and put food on the table to feed my kids.

The charity I work at, no way would they be able to afford enough macs for all the staff, so PCs have their advantages there. The company is not really big enough to show all the benefits of Microsoft's corporate backend provision, but I've learned enough to know that if I was fitting out a 1000+ seat company, no way would I specify all Macs.

At that size, there is a screaming need for large scale enterprise computer management, and that is provided by the Unixes and Microsofts of this world, and Apple is nowhere near there.

Another ding against Apple as far as enterprise provision goes is that it is virtually impossible to properly plan corporate buying budgets and software rollouts with Apple. I need to budget and plan 3 years ahead, I need to know when hardware and software updates will happen. Windows / PCs provide all that (mostly). Apple doesn't.

 

[Apple...]

I'm fine with discussing it, but when the ignorant Microsoft fanboys arrive on the scene... it's a waste of time.

 

[CaptMurdock]

I will admit, in days gone by, that I was about as fervent a Mac Evangelist as you would find this side of Guy Kawasaki. Back in the 90's, this is what kept me going, what with John C. Dvorak predicting the death of Apple and Mac practically every other column.

The time I got into a serious debate (if you can call it something that rarified) was about five years ago, with a friend's roommate. She was going on and on about how lame the Mac was and how bad Apple's quality control was and how Windows had left the Mac behind, yada yada yackety-schmackety. I'll admit I may have lost my cool but, as my friend confirmed after she and the roommate parted ways, this chick was deliberately tweeking me. I finally got fed up and Whatevah'd her.

As another Mac-at-home, Windows-at-work person, I find elements to be admired and reviled in both platforms. At this point, I think it's a matter of personal tastes. As far as the difference in price, I'd rather pay the same price for a two-year-old Mac than a new PC. YMMV.

Two things I always bring up when trying to have a rationale debate as to why I prefer a PC is that a PC isn't legally restricted to one operating system, and that third party manufacturers are able to make PC hardware and sell it openly to consumers. An open market manufacture model allows for far superior PC hardware that isn't available on a Mac (have you ever tried running two GTX460s in SLi on a MAC?). Being able to purchase computer parts and upgrades that I want from a plethora of different companies is what makes a PC far superior than a Mac to me. I find solace in knowing that I have custom-built my computer to meet specs that I want, not that I have bought it pre-made from monopolistic Apple-Mart.

Fair enough. If you're tech savvy enough to want to purchase your own parts and tweak the operating system to fit, go for it. I'm just don't care about this myself, and prefer having it all at hand. I ain't the mechanic, I'm the driver.

The second is that I like to play graphic intensive games on my PC, which leaves the PC vs. Mac debate wobbly because their are not many graphic intensive games available for a Mac.

I'm not that into games; as for my kid, that's why he has an X-Box.

I prefer PCs in honesty. PCs would be near perfect if MS' dominance in OS' would be broken. The fact that Windows is far from perfect is not a slight on PCs. How can it be? Apple is the only company making Macs, it owns Mac OS. There is no one company that owns PCs, or exclusively makes them. Windows became strategic lock-in/the proprietary choice via market forces, if anything. ****, the company that created the standard PC format doesn't even make them any more.

Microsoft has the relationship with IBM that enabled them to shove Windows onto virtually every desk in corporate America. Another example of It's Not What You Know, It's Who You Know.

 

[chrono1081]

Uh ? If you haven't seen a Mac Fanboy on Macrumors, there's something wrong.

Honestly no I haven't. Actually LTD can be considered one but I see far more mac hate for no reason than anything.

 

[yg17]

I'm fine with discussing it, but when the ignorant Apple fanboys arrive on the scene... it's a waste of time.

 

[*LTD*]

Except that if the individual's "fanboyism" is based on fact (and appeals to same), then there's nothing you can do. Someone's going to be right, someone's going to be wrong.

Mock displays of objectivity and non-bias - often for the sake of pleasing others and avoiding debate - is disingenuous at best.

 

[Hellhammer]

Except that if the individual's "fanboyism" is based on fact

It never is

 

[Apple...]

I'm fine with discussing it, but when the ignorant Apple fanboys arrive on the scene... it's a waste of time.

Really, kid? What makes you think I'm that fanboy? I don't mind discussing when people on both sides of the matter aren't ignorant. Plain and simple. Your post was rude, and I do not appreciate it.

 

[yg17]

Really, kid? What makes you think I'm that fanboy? I don't mind discussing when people on both sides of the matter aren't ignorant. Plain and simple. Your post was rude, and I do not appreciate it.

I never said it was you. I have the exact same thoughts as you, except it's not always the Microsoft fanboys that make me think it's a waste of time. I never said you were an Apple fanboy though.

 

[Apple...]

I never said it was you. I have the exact same thoughts as you, except it's not always the Microsoft fanboys that make me think it's a waste of time. I never said you were an Apple fanboy though.

Thank you. That cleared up a lot. It's just when you copy someone so closely like that I take it as an insult. Hopefully you know what I mean.

 

[chrono1081]

Except that if the individual's "fanboyism" is based on fact (and appeals to same), then there's nothing you can do. Someone's going to be right, someone's going to be wrong.
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I agree with this. (I didn't mean it as an insult when I called you a fanboy in the thread above )

I get called a fanboy all the time whenever I back my arguments up with fact. Being a Windows person for 16 years of my life and working in IT fixing windows machines and servers for a living I'm well versed in Windows and see past the "Windows 7 charm".

What I think is hilarious is during these arguments, I offer to show all the proof in the world to support my argument but the other person ends up A. refusing to see it (meaning I win by default) or B. The other person ends up doing nothing but calling me a fanboy and pouting.

I see far more mac hate then I do anything else and its annoying. I actually almost lost my last job because the lead tech on the IT team found out I owned a mac and figured I didn't know what I was doing since I liked mac over windows. Unreal.

 

[calderone]

I agree with this. (I didn't mean it as an insult when I called you a fanboy in the thread above )

I get called a fanboy all the time whenever I back my arguments up with fact. Being a Windows person for 16 years of my life and working in IT fixing windows machines and servers for a living I'm well versed in Windows and see past the "Windows 7 charm".

What I think is hilarious is during these arguments, I offer to show all the proof in the world to support my argument but the other person ends up A. refusing to see it (meaning I win by default) or B. The other person ends up doing nothing but calling me a fanboy and pouting.

I see far more mac hate then I do anything else and its annoying. I actually almost lost my last job because the lead tech on the IT team found out I owned a mac and figured I didn't know what I was doing since I liked mac over windows. Unreal.

What a great "lead tech." I always find this junk laughable. I never had these issues, the "real" (read: Windows users) IT people have always poked at me, but would never question my skills or knowledge. When comes down to it, I am technically stronger regardless of my personal preference than many of the so called "pros."

I do not get into these debates any more, each system has their merit. I still get the occasional joke lobbed my way (and I fire them off as well). However, at the end of the day it is just preference.

 

[mrochester]

Except that if the individual's "fanboyism" is based on fact

As said, it rarely, if ever, is. Most of the time it's opinion dressed up and presented as fact. However, forums filled with nothing but facts and figures would be very dull places. Debate is fun and healthy, but frequently spoiled by terms such as 'fanboy' and 'hater'. I would love nothing better than there to be a blanket ban on these words with immediate perma-bans for anyone who uses them as they really spoil the spirit of these forums.