Do you guys ever get a small "want" for an Android phone?

[walie]

Right...and the same can be said for Google and the apps they load on there, which I said I was leaving off the list since Apple does preload some of their own apps.

The only thing I am talking about here are those put on by either the carrier (AT&T) or the vendor (Samsung).

in term of the iphone, Apple IS the vendor

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Kies I would not exactly call bloatware in your list as sadly it is kind of needed to connect with a computer (Not that I am a fan of Kies). Air is just another part of it.

All Share is DLNA. Why on earth would you want to remove that?
Kies Air is your sync software. (Think iTunes backup)

You're confusing Kies and Kies Air. Kies is the synching software you install on your computer (which is crap, everything is synched to your google account anyway). Kies Air is an app that lets you access files on the phone, send text messages, view logs through any web broswer over Wifi, no setup or cables required.

 

[Arelunde]

I have a Bionic - stock - that sits in my desk drawer. I keep it updated, OS-wise, but use my older iPhone4 all the time. The difference is mainly QUALITY in every sense from the case (plastic vs. glass & metal), to type (adjustable in the iPhone) and icon sizes, sound (always muffled voice on Bionic calls), CAMERA performance (no contest - the Bionic's is awful), crashes, etc.

The Bionic was the first 4G/LTE Motorola phone, quickly outdated by the Razr and Razr Maxx plus others released by Motorola starting about a month or so after the Bionic. You can imagine how betrayed Bionic owners felt when their issue-plagued $500 device was top dog for a few weeks.

I honestly DO like the larger screen, but the quality of the image on the iPhone makes up for the smaller real estate. Hopefully the next generation iPhone will have a larger screen.

I agree that 4.3-4.7 inches would be about ideal for a phone. The Note's combo phone/tablet is interesting and seems a logical progression. I would be interested to play around with it, but not to buy it... at least not yet. I'll wait for the iPhone5 (or whatever it will be called).

 

[rjohnstone]

I have a Bionic - stock - that sits in my desk drawer. I keep it updated, OS-wise, but use my older iPhone4 all the time. The difference is mainly QUALITY in every sense from the case (plastic vs. glass & metal), to type (adjustable in the iPhone) and icon sizes, sound (always muffled voice on Bionic calls), CAMERA performance (no contest - the Bionic's is awful), crashes, etc.

The Bionic was the first 4G/LTE Motorola phone, quickly outdated by the Razr and Razr Maxx plus others released by Motorola starting about a month or so after the Bionic. You can imagine how betrayed Bionic owners felt when their issue-plagued $500 device was top dog for a few weeks.

I honestly DO like the larger screen, but the quality of the image on the iPhone makes up for the smaller real estate. Hopefully the next generation iPhone will have a larger screen.

I agree that 4.3-4.7 inches would be about ideal for a phone. The Note's combo phone/tablet is interesting and seems a logical progression. I would be interested to play around with it, but not to buy it... at least not yet. I'll wait for the iPhone5 (or whatever it will be called).

I know a few Bionic owners... they seem pretty happy.
It's also getting ICS the same time the RAZR owners will get it.

As for build quality, the only thing plastic is the battery cover.
The frame is metal. Moto doesn't use plastic frames on any of their smartphones.
No, it's not pretty. Moto has never made a "pretty" phone.

 

[Arelunde]

Very interesting comment. I might have to re-evaluate my Bionic. However, until ICS shows up, it doesn't trump my iPhone.

 

[ChubZ]

Sorry to burst your excuse bubble again... normal bone structure here.
Perhaps you just have more feminine hands than most.

As for the battery... nothing to stretch. I forgot to plug in the charger on more than one occasion over nite and still had 15-20% battery in the morning.
The phone has fantastic power management capabilities.

AT&T's LTE network is better thought out than Verizon's LTE network.
The phone doesn't spend half the day flipping back and forth between 3G and LTE like Verizon LTE phones do.

I've only seen the phone lose the LTE signal twice since I've purchased it.
One time I was fishing... I was out in the middle of nowhere. Phone calls still worked... no data.
The other was in the basement of our data center. It's RF shielded.
We only have repeaters for voice service in there, no data.

Hunting for a signal kills a cell battery faster than most other activities.



A quick check shows 50,000 apps and growing daily.

Just embrace you Apple fanboism and admit you are under the influence of the RDF.
It's a lot better than making baseless arguments that are easily dispelled.

Sorry to burst your bubble but Verizons LTE Network has a bigger foot print that ATT and better overall coverage areas.......How do I know?

I only work for the company that makes, supplies and installs both companies LTE equipment (soon to be sprint), radio heads and LTE switches.

 

[Buildbright]

Yes. I want a bigger screen and LTE but everytime I use a Android phone I could not switch. Its good for some but I Hate It personally.

 

[BiggAW]

No, it's not pretty. Moto has never made a "pretty" phone.

DROID RAZR MAXX is one of the most beautiful phones I have ever seen, with the Kevlar backing and super thin design. I actually like the shape better than the regular RAZR.

 

[rjohnstone]

Sorry to burst your bubble but Verizons LTE Network has a bigger foot print that ATT and better overall coverage areas.......How do I know?

I only work for the company that makes, supplies and installs both companies LTE equipment (soon to be sprint), radio heads and LTE switches.

Come to Phoenix and I'll be happy to prove you wrong.
Verizon has mediocre LTE coverage compared to AT&T in AZ.

National footprint is meaningless to me.

 

[denaliOnDubs]

On occasion I find myself wanting to switch to an Android handset. I just find that all of that Android phones feel cheap and I really would never want my phone to be as large as they are. I find the iPhone is already big enough, if anything I wouldn't mind seeing the an iPhone mini or something similar in size to the HTC Aria. Real 4g would be amazing though!

 

[Lindenhurst]

On occasion I find myself wanting to switch to an Android handset. I just find that all of that Android phones feel cheap and I really would never want my phone to be as large as they are. I find the iPhone is already big enough, if anything I wouldn't mind seeing the an iPhone mini or something similar in size to the HTC Aria. Real 4g would be amazing though!

All of the android phones look cheap? When is the last time you actually touched one?
And you want a smaller screen?

All i can say is wow!

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Thanks for the tips....I'll try those out. Still have the Note, just working to get the software like I want it and get comfortable with using it before I have it re-activated. Have about 27 days left to see if I can make it work before my return window runs out.

I did the same thing. Tried it for 30 days....hooked. Once you get it set up the way you want it you will love it.
Android takes a bit to learn but it is much more customizable than IOS. Not knocking my old sold IP4, but myself and my 2 son's all switched and none of us are returning the note.
Our home has iMac's, iPad's, Apple tv2's, and a Macbook Pro, so we are all definitely Apple fans, but we feel Apple needs to listen to the public a bit more and make a larger screen phone, or maybe bring out more than the 1 version they release each year. One size doesn't satisfy all.
Give me an iPhone the size of my Note, and i probably wouldn't even have looked at anything else.

And for those who say all Android devices feel cheap.....go actually put your hands on some of the more expensive versions. They surely do not feel any less "premium" than the current IP4.

 

[cynics]

Come to Phoenix and I'll be happy to prove you wrong.
Verizon has mediocre LTE coverage compared to AT&T in AZ.

National footprint is meaningless to me.

I'm not disagreeing that you may be in an area with better AT&T LTE but he did say larger foot print.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/03/07/ipad-att-4g-lte-vs-verizon-4g-lte/

It's barely comparable. I need data when I'm away from my home not where I already have wifi and know where all the free hotspots are.

I know this favors the east coast which is where I live but recently I was able to drive from Philly to Orlando and stay in LTE nearly the entire time. Needless to say I was impressed.

 

[rjohnstone]

I'm not disagreeing that you may be in an area with better AT&T LTE but he did say larger foot print.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/03/07/ipad-att-4g-lte-vs-verizon-4g-lte/

It's barely comparable. I need data when I'm away from my home not where I already have wifi and know where all the free hotspots are.

I know this favors the east coast which is where I live but recently I was able to drive from Philly to Orlando and stay in LTE nearly the entire time. Needless to say I was impressed.

His "larger footprint" comment is irrelevant.
My comment was that AT&T's LTE network was better thought out, not bigger.
I can tell you for a fact than Verizon's LTE coverage in Phoenix is spotty.
AT&T actually put up a lot of new towers and piggy backed onto some of T-Mobile's towers when they deployed LTE in Phx.
A good friend of mine is a tower manager for T-Mobile here in AZ.
He knows pretty much everyone in the business here and gets a lot of good info.

Did a nice long distance speed test a few weeks ago to see what AT&T's LTE network can do.
Not too shabby.

Here's my average results.

 

[Motliest Crue]

I know in the end the iPhone for me is the better choice, but at times I see phones from Samsung like the Galaxy SII, and I sort of want one just to mess around with. Also it has LTE so yeah.

What about you guys?

I tried the HTC Inspire when my 3GS broke - after a month I went back to my 3gs. The huge size, poor build quality, and poor battery life were too much!

 

[cynics]

His "larger footprint" comment is irrelevant.
My comment was that AT&T's LTE network was better thought out, not bigger.
I can tell you for a fact than Verizon's LTE coverage in Phoenix is spotty.
AT&T actually put up a lot of new towers and piggy backed onto some of T-Mobile's towers when they deployed LTE in Phx.
A good friend of mine is a tower manager for T-Mobile here in AZ.
He knows pretty much everyone in the business here and gets a lot of good info.

Did a nice long distance speed test a few weeks ago to see what AT&T's LTE network can do.
Not too shabby.
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Here's my average results.

That's pretty good test. I see the same. It all really depends on the area though obviously. The reason I switched from AT&T is because they have poor service in my area (northern md). By that I mean no service for even voice most the time. Being a contractor you'd often see me standing on my tailgate trying to elevate my location. So I was extremely impressed to not only have amazing reception.

But be in there premium (LTE) network. I'd switch back if I moved to your area and it was that bad.

 

[BiggAW]

His "larger footprint" comment is irrelevant.
My comment was that AT&T's LTE network was better thought out, not bigger.
I can tell you for a fact than Verizon's LTE coverage in Phoenix is spotty.

What about the CDMA/EVDO coverage? Not all Verizon towers are equipped with LTE yet. We have one here that isn't, half a mile away from one that is, so in certain buildings, the LTE drops out. They will eventually do every tower.

 

[aross99]

No.

People who have a preference, seem to feel pretty strongly one way or the other.

I don't see many people to are in the middle, or who switch.

 

[rjohnstone]

What about the CDMA/EVDO coverage? Not all Verizon towers are equipped with LTE yet. We have one here that isn't, half a mile away from one that is, so in certain buildings, the LTE drops out. They will eventually do every tower.

It's better, but still spotty.
I'm not saying AT&T is flawless... they have areas with coverage issues as well. Just not as many as Verizon.
Our company phones used to all be on Verizon. Our corp HQ is in NYC, so they originally made us all use VZW since that's what HQ used.
A lot of us here in Phoenix were constantly losing or missing calls.
I couldn't make or receive a call in my house at all.
After a lot of complaining, our purchasing dept signed a contract with AT&T so we would have a choice.
Pretty much everyone here (4,000+ employees) use AT&T now for our work phones.

 

[Lindenhurst]

No.

People who have a preference, seem to feel pretty strongly one way or the other.

I don't see many people to are in the middle, or who switch.

Most that switch go onto the Android forums to get some help making the transition. Plenty of ex iPhone switchers there who no longer feel the need to be here.

Plenty of ex android switchers here as well.

 

[denaliOnDubs]

I was in cellular sales from TDMA until 3g (stopped about two years ago). I know that isn't necessarily recent experience but I can honestly say that I have really spent some time with mobile phones. Even though I no longer earn a living that way I still find myself stopping into wireless stores at least every month or two just to check out what's new on top of reading about new models. If it helps I felt the 3g/3gs felt cheap also, but at least the weight was there. I really enjoyed the original iPhone honestly. When they came out with the 4 I was pretty happy again. I've never liked plastic. I will say the droid razr was a nice looking/feeling device (large screen unfortunately) but in the area I'm at Verizon has yet to build out 4G LTE and I'm not willing to give up simultaneous voice and data. I'm all for smaller smartphones, the iPhone is big enough. I pray that it doesn't get any larger. I just find that the iPhone's display is more than large enough for me and my pockets. I think some of the android phones that have come out are ridiculously large. But to each their own

All of the android phones look cheap? When is the last time you actually touched one?
And you want a smaller screen?

All i can say is wow!

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I did the same thing. Tried it for 30 days....hooked. Once you get it set up the way you want it you will love it.
Android takes a bit to learn but it is much more customizable than IOS. Not knocking my old sold IP4, but myself and my 2 son's all switched and none of us are returning the note.
Our home has iMac's, iPad's, Apple tv2's, and a Macbook Pro, so we are all definitely Apple fans, but we feel Apple needs to listen to the public a bit more and make a larger screen phone, or maybe bring out more than the 1 version they release each year. One size doesn't satisfy all.
Give me an iPhone the size of my Note, and i probably wouldn't even have looked at anything else.

And for those who say all Android devices feel cheap.....go actually put your hands on some of the more expensive versions. They surely do not feel any less "premium" than the current IP4.

 

[OneMike]

I know in the end the iPhone for me is the better choice, but at times I see phones from Samsung like the Galaxy SII, and I sort of want one just to mess around with. Also it has LTE so yeah.

What about you guys?

NOPE

Had Samsung Galaxy SII, took back next day.

The issue was not the phone as much as it was me having so many things tied to mac services.

 

[denaliOnDubs]

That is an issue for me too... It would be a hard switch.

NOPE

Had Samsung Galaxy SII, took back next day.

The issue was not the phone as much as it was me having so many things tied to mac services.

 

[Derpage]

I make IOS apps for a living and use an Android phone. Call me conflicted. I keep getting close to buying Apple stuff (was trying to buy a mac pro, but they've given up on 'em.)
I literally can't use an iphone due to my massive hands. I've tried many times and it just doesn't work. If you have any questions from an android user, let me know!
I run a rooted evo3d @ 1.7ghz w/ 65 Gb of memory, ask me anything!
I won't bite.

 

[Invincibilizer]

No.

People who have a preference, seem to feel pretty strongly one way or the other.

I don't see many people to are in the middle, or who switch.

I am actually in the process of a switch. iOS is satisfactory but theres not much under its original interface. ICS on the other hand is generating buzz and by the youtube videos, it is a smooth and aesthetically pleasing OS that I want to try out.

 

[SurferMan]

What about the CDMA/EVDO coverage? Not all Verizon towers are equipped with LTE yet. We have one here that isn't, half a mile away from one that is, so in certain buildings, the LTE drops out. They will eventually do every tower.

I know down here in FL, Verizon has LTE service almost everywhere. Problem is even if your in a good area it's still spotty as hell, people have issues of being connected then dropped signal then back and forth sometimes etc. And even speeds are all over, 1 second you can be at 30+ and the next slower then hspa+ lol. I'd take at&t's stable hspa+ speeds any day. LTE is great when not spotty and if caught at the right times, but you don't get those speeds 24/7. At least not anywhere I've been in FL (live in South FL). But in my use of Verizon LTE and friends it's rarely ever over 10-15 down.

I love the speeds of LTE when it's working 100%, but until they make it stable and less of a draw on battery, I'm perfectly fine with hspa+ speeds which I can get up to 7-9 down and lately seems to hover around 3-5 on average which is still more than enough on a mobile device.

 

[ChubZ]

Verizon's roll out rate of their LTE network is faster than ATT, not counting verizon's already 1 year head start. Im talking tower and cell site locations that are often shared by all carriers. I see towers with Verizon's LTE already installed with ATT LTE equipment on site and not even installed. Not to mention Verizon has had a ton less hiccups than ATT wireless, when planning and implementing LTE. I wont even get into telling you guys about how Sprint wants to half ass their LTE setup, thank Ericsson for that.