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The Game 161

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I share the same sentiment. Which is why I'm going Samsung on my next smartphone. ;)

Yeah fully plan to buy the S4 when it's out. Just have to hope carphone warehouse will sell it when it comes out as i would buy it sim free as still have ages left on my contract. Not sure if carephone warehouse do sell them on their own without a contract when it's first released or not.
 

matttye

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Mar 25, 2009
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True not everybody wants the same but you get the feeling generally the market wants bigger screens and more things like widgets and being able to use SD cards in the phone to upload pics and movies easily.

I cared more about SD cards when I had my S3, because only the 16GB version was available at release. I now have 64GB space with less than half being used, so the lack of SD card support isn't an issue. If there ever comes a time when I feel I don't have enough space and need more, I'll re-evaluate my options.

As for widgets; I used to use them extensively on my S3, but I don't really miss them on iOS. Certain information might not be *as simple* to see at a glance, but it's still really simple and quick to find everything.

The only difference is I spend less time configuring my phone and more time actually using it these days. I used to rearrange my home screens, try out new launchers etc. all the time on Android. In the end I got bored of customising it and wanted to try something else.

I still love Android and I'll probably buy another device at some point.

Some stubborn people will stay with Apple products even if Apple has the same static home screen icons, no widgets and a plain lockscreen 10 years down the road. :rolleyes:

Stubborn or... satisfied?

I see no point in brand loyalty. I'll buy whatever I want, no matter who it's made by.
 

iHailCarlo

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NO, I dont think Apple will underestimate the device but i dont think they are running scared either. All these high powered specs and the like start to have a diminishing return dont you think, how many cores? how much ram? higher clock speed? What does it take to have a smooth experience before its just wasted? Do you really multitask that much on a phone?
 

matttye

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http://verynicewebsite.net/2013/01/every-empire-crumbles/

Read this - don't forget to read the source article too. Unless its already been posted....

Thanks for posting. :)

This demonstrates precisely what I was saying in another thread about how there are always doomsayers. Why do so many people think that Apple has to die just because Samsung or (insert company here) is successful? They can BOTH be successful. There will still be tens of millions of people who buy both devices.

In another five years people will be saying the same thing; "the shine has really gone off Apple, all the defectors on this forum shows that there's discontent, yadda yadda yadda." What they fail to realise is that there is no discontent across the general userbase, only the vocal minority who all join forums so that they can whine and complain with other likeminded people.
 

The Game 161

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whats the most you can get an SD card for the S3 for example? is it 64? does it need to be a certain one to fit the phone?
 

vikingjunior

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Apple may be more concerned with a Key Lime Pie Nexus 5 at a $300 price tag then any $700 S4. Google is undercutting the market and Apple is not going to race to the bottom with them.
 

matttye

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whats the most you can get an SD card for the S3 for example? is it 64? does it need to be a certain one to fit the phone?

Galaxy S3 supports MicroSDXC (64GB only at present but the standard supports up to 2TB) and MicroSDHC (2-32GB), and most likely plain old MicroSD (< 2GB).

You can buy UHS-1 cards ('ultra high speed 1') but as far as I know it doesn't fully support the speeds, so you might be wasting your money.
 

blairh

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No I don't think Apple is concerned per se. However I think the 5 was playing it too safe while the competition has moved forward at a faster pace with respect to hardware. I do believe that a lot of potential iPhone 5 buyers in 2013 will instead opt for a 5" Android device. The massive success of the SIII is proof that there is a strong market for smartphones in the 4.7"-5" range. The success of the Note II is proof that there is a growing market for 5.3"+ screens too.
 

The Game 161

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Galaxy S3 supports MicroSDXC (64GB only at present but the standard supports up to 2TB) and MicroSDHC (2-32GB), and most likely plain old MicroSD (< 2GB).

You can buy UHS-1 cards ('ultra high speed 1') but as far as I know it doesn't fully support the speeds, so you might be wasting your money.

Don't you get SD card with the S3 in the box? where do you buy them from? anywhere?
 

Beeplance

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Don't you get SD card with the S3 in the box? where do you buy them from? anywhere?

I don't think the S3 will come with a SD card right out of the box. You've to get one yourself. Largest storage should be 64GB if I'm not wrong.
 

Markyboy81

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Don't you get SD card with the S3 in the box? where do you buy them from? anywhere?

You can get them from pretty much anywhere, amazon is a good bet. I picked up a 64gb card for around £35 which is great value considering with Apple you have to shell out an extra £200 for the 64gb version compared with the 16GB version.
 

SprSynJn

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I predict the iPhone 5S will just be another minor update and cause more people to defect. Users have come to expect more out of their $700 purchase and a small screen and stagnant iOS is not cutting it anymore. Times have changed and people have changed. However, Apple can't see the changing tide and even former Apple execs like Steve Wozniak say the competition is innovating more than Apple is.

The largest carrier here in Japan lost over 200,000 customers last year to the other two major carriers who carry the iPhone. Both those carriers gained while the biggest one, who seems to have your type of mindset in thinking they don't need Apple, lost. Might I suggest you wake up from that dream?
 

siiip5

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Apple may be more concerned with a Key Lime Pie Nexus 5 at a $300 price tag then any $700 S4. Google is undercutting the market and Apple is not going to race to the bottom with them.

Really? You think the iPad Mini is a profit leading product?
 

matttye

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Really? You think the iPad Mini is a profit leading product?

The mini is smaller so it's going to be cheaper, and it's still more expensive than every other tablet in its' size group, so yes :p

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Don't you get SD card with the S3 in the box? where do you buy them from? anywhere?

You can get them from Carphone Warehouse, Phones4u, network stores, or online like from Amazon, eBay (be wary as there are an abundance of fakes), play.com, etc.
 

Timzer

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The only difference is I spend less time configuring my phone and more time actually using it these days. I used to rearrange my home screens, try out new launchers etc. all the time on Android. In the end I got bored of customising it and wanted to try something else.

I don't understand this thinking. You spend less time configuring your phone? That's because on an iPhone you don't have a CHOICE to configure your phone to the lengths on the Android phone you had. But that's fine.
But the very fact that you were able to do as much customizing to the point you said you got bored with your Android phone, why didn't you just leave your android phone the way you liked it then. And then just start using it. The same way you leave your iPhone the way it is and just use it. How can you bring up a point about how you spend less time customizing and more time using your phone now that you have an iPhone? You customizing to the point of boredom is a fault with you not your android phone. I really don't know why you made this point of how you now are using your phone more now than spending time customizing it. This is something completely in your control. You should be praising an OS that allows so much customizing, rather than use it as a negative because you can't control yourself from endless customizing. :confused:
 

matttye

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I don't understand this thinking. You spend less time configuring your phone? That's because on an iPhone you don't have a CHOICE to configure your phone to the lengths on the Android phone you had. But that's fine.
But the very fact that you were able to do as much customizing to the point you said you got bored with your Android phone, why didn't you just leave your android phone the way you liked it then. And then just start using it. The same way you leave your iPhone the way it is and just use it. How can you bring up a point about how you spend less time customizing and more time using your phone now that you have an iPhone? You customizing to the point of boredom is a fault with you not your android phone. I really don't know why you made this point of how you now are using your phone more now than spending time customizing it. This is something completely in your control. You should be praising an OS that allows so much customizing, rather than use it as a negative because you can't control yourself from endless customizing. :confused:

I guess I was never completely happy with it on Android. I would get it how I liked it and use that for a couple of weeks, then I'd think "maybe this will make it better..." or "maybe this would be a better widget..."

I never said that was a negative for Android, you're putting words in my mouth. I just said I got bored with customising it, so I bought something else.
 

3bs

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May 20, 2011
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I guess I was never completely happy with it on Android. I would get it how I liked it and use that for a couple of weeks, then I'd think "maybe this will make it better..." or "maybe this would be a better widget..."

I never said that was a negative for Android, you're putting words in my mouth. I just said I got bored with customising it, so I bought something else.

I definitely understand what you mean. Good thing you didn't venture into custom ROMs cause that would have meant even more time messing around with your phone :p
 

matttye

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I definitely understand what you mean. Good thing you didn't venture into custom ROMs cause that would have meant even more time messing around with your phone :p

I did! I ventured into it with my HTC Desire and Galaxy S2, just not my S3.. although I did install an official Jelly Bean Samsung ROM before it was officially released :p
 

SomeDudeAsking

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Nov 23, 2010
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The largest carrier here in Japan lost over 200,000 customers last year to the other two major carriers who carry the iPhone. Both those carriers gained while the biggest one, who seems to have your type of mindset in thinking they don't need Apple, lost. Might I suggest you wake up from that dream?

Oh, that explains why Apple has decreasing marketshare the world over.
 

matttye

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Oh, that explains why Apple has decreasing marketshare the world over.

Decreasing market share does not mean decreasing sales. You probably knew that but I just wanted to point it out.

Android was always going to outsell iOS eventually because there's an Android device for everyone. There's only a handful of iPhones and they're all very alike. If you don't like them, tough, get something else.

In contrast, there's literally hundreds of Android phones to choose from so there's going to be one to suit almost everyone, including people who are only willing to spend next to nothing on a phone.
 

siiip5

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Nov 13, 2012
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In contrast, there's literally hundreds of Android phones to choose from so there's going to be one to suit almost everyone, including people who are only willing to spend next to nothing on a phone.

You mean like an iphone 4, which is free or an iphone 4S, which is only $99? ;)

In 4 days I hope Tim Cook reports specific sales numbers for the iphone 5 and ipad mini. If he doesn't, and only gives us a "combined" sales number and YoY percentage growth, then we will know that neither product has sold particularly well.
 
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