Meh, it's your choice to buy whatever you want. But your post came across the same way to me. You were glowing over the fact you use your phone more now than customizing it, so you definitely were implying that it was a negative that you spent more time customizing it than actually using it. Or else why would you even mention that you now use your phone more than customizing it. Yes you were making a point. But let's be reasonable with our points. Customizing and the time one CHOOSES to customize their Android phone is in one's complete control. The TIME one DECIDES to spend/waste customizing one's phone should never be mentioned the way you have when it is in complete control of the user.
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Meh, it's your choice to buy whatever you want. But your post came across the same way to me. You were glowing over the fact you use your phone more now than customizing it, so you definitely were implying that it was a negative that you spent more time customizing it than actually using it. Or else why would you even mention that you now use your phone more than customizing it. Yes you were making a point. But let's be reasonable with our points. Customizing and the time one CHOOSES to customize their Android phone is in one's complete control. The TIME one DECIDES to spend/waste customizing one's phone should never be mentioned the way you have when it is in complete control of the user.
You mean like an iphone 4, which is free or an iphone 4S, which is only $99?
In 4 days I hope Tim Cook reports specific sales numbers for the iphone 5 and ipad mini. If he doesn't, and only gives us a "combined" sales number and YoY percentage growth, then we will know that neither product has sold particularly well.
Yes, I am very curious to what Apple reports and will be watching closely. I think that sales of the big iPad have been canabalized by the cheaper small iPad and will also want to see those numbers. I would also want to see the return/warranty rate on the iPhone 5 with all the problems it has. I also want to see a true breakdown of iPhone 5 sales numbers instead of the shipped+retailer inventory+sold numbers Apple releases in it's marketting material as propaganda.
You mean like an iphone 4, which is free or an iphone 4S, which is only $99?
In 4 days I hope Tim Cook reports specific sales numbers for the iphone 5 and ipad mini. If he doesn't, and only gives us a "combined" sales number and YoY percentage growth, then we will know that neither product has sold particularly well.
No I'm not talking about cheap outright costs with a contract, I'm talking about cheap overall costs.
http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/360495498660?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&cbt=y - £35 to buy outright. Get that on a £10 a month GifGaff pay as you go tarriff and you spend a whopping total of £275 over a period of two years. That's half of the outright cost of the smallest iPhone 5.
I was trying to say that, sometimes, less is more.
Yes it's in my complete control as to how I want to customise Android, but the option is there to do so. If I'm not absolutely happy with iOS, I can't change it so I just have to get over it. With Android, I found myself being more nitpicky simply because I could.
Bro, explain to me how that makes any reference to what I posted. Please take off that tin foil hat beforehand if you wouldn't mind. If you're just going to twist what other people say, I'll just refer you back to what mattt posted to yah.
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Apple's approach to iOS has been very incremental and evolutionary thus far. I don't know if 7 will be the revolutionary change you're looking for but revolutionary change is due. Making revolutionary change both happen and work is a challenge and will be a test of Tim Cook as successor to Jobs IMHO.
The competition isn't innovating at all. What have Samsung or Google "innovated" in the past couple of years? Larger screens are not innovative or creative, they're just bigger screens. I'm hard pressed to think of any "innovation" from Apple OR any of its competitors in quite a while. Maybe retina displays? I don't even think that really counts as innovation though.
Why don't you tell me what you consider innovation since you look like you simply dismiss everything you don't like.
Apple frequently play the specs game.... the only time they don't play it is when they have inferior specs as with the iPad vs Nexus 7 comparison when they focused on usability.
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What do you consider "innovation" to be then?
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To be fair, many OEMs use this metric rather than raw sales numbers to the public. If the device ends up at a retailer and sits on a shelf Apple has still been paid (unless it sits on their own retail shelves).
Innovations change the way we live and work. By my definition, multitouch was a game changing innovation. The iphone being the first smartphone with a multitouch screen that made up nearly the entire surface of the device was a game changing innovation. I think "innovation" should refer to something that is truly new. Name one innovation from Samsung Android handsets. I can't think of any. Bigger, faster, more customizable - that's all well and good but I don't believe it's innovation per se.
Smart stay is innovative.
In case you don't know what that is, the front facing camera detects if you're looking at the screen every time the screen is about to timeout and, if you are, it keeps the screen on. Worked almost 100% successfully too when I had my S3.
Ahhhh, if you haven't noticed, smart phones have neither changed the way we live or work. I still do the same things before modern smartphones were around. I still have two legs and two arms and two eyes and use a computer like before.
Your definition of "innovation" is absurd. There is innovation going on all the time. What do you think all the new technologies that go into smartphone components that Samsung creates are? Chicken?
What new technologies? So far I've heard one - Smart Stay, a feature that works sporadically for many people from what I've heard.
I know you will deny this because of your bias, but how about the mass production of high resolution Super AMOLED displays. Or all the high density flash memory in your smartphone? Or how about smartphone radio technology? Samsung has innovated in all these areas and more.
Well you can call it personal bias if you want, but i don't like the way Samsung's SAMOLED screens look. Dim, tinted, weird colors, bad angles. That's my honest opinion but your mileage may vary.
I don't want to get into this ridiculous argument that you guys with too much time on your hands are engaging in, but I just want to point out that just because it hasn't changed the way you live or work individually, doesn't mean it hasn't collectively.
I can say from my own personal experiences, that smart phones have dramatically changed the way I work and socialize/interact with others, for better or for worse. Through my limited observations of my peers, I can say the same for them. I have also lived long enough to remember a time before smart phones, and the change has been rather dramatic.
I also think you guys simply have different standards as to what constitutes "innovation". Personally, I agree with unobtanium, but that's just me. Now don't mind me, because regardless of what I've said or could have said, you will just continue this until one party gets bored and leaves...
Yes,
Apple is a company. They closely monitor the competition. I guarantee you someone somewhere in Apple has every major competing smartphone. I also guarantee you someone somewhere at Apple pre-orders each phone as it comes out. Or at the very least, waits to read launch-day reviews. And while Apple tends to do it's own thing sometimes despite the market, they are STILL a large and successful corporation, they ARE aware of what the other guys are making.
The first two generations of iPhone were cool, but lacked some VERY important features AND lacked a LOT of horsepower. They were miles behind PocketPC/Windows Mobile, Palm, and come Blackberry devices in terms of feature set and performance. HOWEVER, they were miles AHEAD in terms of UI and usability, being something that anyone could use without spending an hour figuring it out (much like what the Macintosh did to personal computers).
Enter the first Android devices. Now, someone was mimicking the easy UI and succesful 'screen only' minimalist-button approach. Sure it was laggy and buggy, but the hardware outperformed the iPhone, it had the latest wireless standards, expandability, and a choice of carriers. We can debate until the cows come home which was better, but that does NOT matter. What matters is, now Apple has a competitor.
SUDDENLY, we have the 3GS and the revolutionary 4, etc. etc. I believe Apple would have still gotten to these devices, eventually, but I also believe the early iPhone iterations were 'test the water' devices without the full weight of Apple behind them. Once they took off AND had a major competitor, Apple got behind them like a freight train.
Competition is GREAT!
Apple is a company. They closely monitor the competition. I guarantee you someone somewhere in Apple has every major competing smartphone. I also guarantee you someone somewhere at Apple pre-orders each phone as it comes out. Or at the very least, waits to read launch-day reviews. And while Apple tends to do it's own thing sometimes despite the market, they are STILL a large and successful corporation, they ARE aware of what the other guys are making.
The first two generations of iPhone were cool, but lacked some VERY important features AND lacked a LOT of horsepower. They were miles behind PocketPC/Windows Mobile, Palm, and come Blackberry devices in terms of feature set and performance. HOWEVER, they were miles AHEAD in terms of UI and usability, being something that anyone could use without spending an hour figuring it out (much like what the Macintosh did to personal computers).
Enter the first Android devices. Now, someone was mimicking the easy UI and succesful 'screen only' minimalist-button approach. Sure it was laggy and buggy, but the hardware outperformed the iPhone, it had the latest wireless standards, expandability, and a choice of carriers. We can debate until the cows come home which was better, but that does NOT matter. What matters is, now Apple has a competitor.
SUDDENLY, we have the 3GS and the revolutionary 4, etc. etc. I believe Apple would have still gotten to these devices, eventually, but I also believe the early iPhone iterations were 'test the water' devices without the full weight of Apple behind them. Once they took off AND had a major competitor, Apple got behind them like a freight train.
Competition is GREAT!
Some stubborn people will stay with Apple products even if Apple has the same static home screen icons, no widgets and a plain lockscreen 10 years down the road.
True. But keep in mind that most people use their phones for making calls, check an email, have a look at a web page. And apple delivers that.
Yup.
If an Android device is better, I'll jump ship. But I didn't buy a phone for a fancy lock screen, unlimited customizability, pretty themes or other gimmicks. If you want those things cool, more power to ya.
However, I have an iPhone because;
1) Build quality is superb. Reliability is ALSO superb.
2) Service is extraordinary. AT&T sucks but it's all I get out here signal-wise, being able to take my phone to an Apple store instead of shipping it back or taking it to AT&T is fantastic
3) The integration and eco-system is great and a no-brainer. Yes, google does this, AND I use it. However, Apples is so much cleaner, and so much better.
And a host of other reasons. But there's more to a smartphone than icons!
I'm an apple fan, but not with phones (by the end of this year I'm going to own just about everything apple makes except their phones) but I'm an android phone guy, but even I said the note is too big, but now I'm considering it...
I dunno I think it's all subjective. My wife has an HTC Android phone for work that's much bigger, and there are times where it's nice, but most of the time I would prefer the skinnier screen. Granted, I haven't owned one.
But I tend to prefer smaller devices anyway. I've had laptops ranging from my 13.3" Macbook Pro all the way up to a huge 19" laptop behemoth that I hated. I have friends who think the 13" MBP equates to a netbook, just way to small, but I say it's perfect. My last laptop was 15.6", I couldn't WAIT to jump to something smaller. Fits like a glove.
That's why competition is great, there's always another option if you don't fit one companies mold for a customer!
The majority of Apple consumers don't care much about specs, and it shows from increasing sales.
I don't know sales appear to be down lately and more are buying galaxy phones that ever before.