So Apple does not mind a camera bump on an iPhone or iPad, but the Gods forbid a minor protrusion on the exterior lid of a Mac laptop ??
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Do You Think Apple Will Stick With the Notch?
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As the is no FaceID on the 2021 MBP a better option would have been a pill shaped cutout or even a hole punch. A camera bump on the exterior portion of the lid would be fine or a taper would solve the issue of camera thickness.
I don’t believe it’s related to thickness, I suspect it’s due to production availability in quality quantity and cost for the 11” iPP. I believe Apple will adopt OLED for the entire iPP line and just call miniLED a test.
No I don’t think it is, otherwise they wouldn’t have adopted it on the MacBook Pro’s, they would have stopped at the iPads if it was a ‘test’, but it is definitely a sort of stop gap tech before they transition to OLED, which will then also be a stop gap until they transition to microLED.
I expect OLED to start coming to Macs and iPads probably around 2025 at the earliest, then microLED will probably start to show it’s face after 2030. Either way we are a long way off both of those coming anytime soon anyway.
MiniLED for what it is, is quite a decent upgrade over standard LCD panels, giving many benefits of OLED without sacrificing screen brightness or risking burn in.
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I think we will eventually see faceID on a MBP hence continuation of the notch.
I did use lower case to denote the difference. Calling it Windows Hello really doesn't tell you anything, as it covers fingerprint, facial recognition, locking, PIN logon, secure key, and picture password, and your hardware can have any of those or not. (all can do PIN and password login)
My new Lenovo is an AMD X13 and it's FAST. Love it.
No, it doesn't. Seems more like a problem than a good thing. I'd much rather have OLED for the color and thickness. One of my home laptops has an OLED. (A Dell XPS 15)
I don't believe so, but it doesn't really matter, I didn't buy this work laptop for the camera. I'd actually be quite happy without one, especially in the case of a MBP.
It seems to work as well, but I can't tell you how it works -- not an interest of mine. Other than trying it, I have it set off normally. I know it uses an IR camera paired with a normal camera to do its work, but how, no.
I agree, crap was a stronger term than is appropriate, but all the arguments that really don't cover the issues pushed me over the edge.
I wanted it for the processing power, not the screen, but the more I looked at it, the more I hated the notch. I don't use a Mac for work at all, and in fact, the switch to M1 made that doubly a problem, so I really didn't need a Mac laptop. I have (soon to be gone in a trade in for the Studio) that just didn't fit my workflow at all -- I needed active cooling, and that colors my decision on what I'd buy now too.
The split menu bar kind of triggers my being bothered by non symmetry, I hate it on both my Android (punch hole) and iPhones (notch), but I need phones.
The punch hole is better, but I like iOS more
They will stick with it until it’s no longer necessary I.e. they can put FaceID camera and sensor invisibly under the display in the incredibly thin MacBook Display enclosure. That might be a while.
I did think wtf when I saw the notch but its not noticeable at all and in tasks I do it's hidden anyway. just when I'm on my desktop where it's there so not a big deal. certainly far worse on the iPhone in day to day usage.
Eventually they will reduce or remove it once the technology allows for smaller cameras, but I just use one of the stock backgrounds and don’t really notice it.
Maybe they put it there so they have something to reduce (make smaller) in future releases. like token upgrade incentives (marketing blurb) before going full notch-less. Either way my guess is it will remain at least another 4-5 years but perhaps become smaller between releases
I have no clue but if I had to guess it would be smaller notch for a few years, then a couple ugly holes then if we're lucky one ugly one then if we're lucky nothing. If I had to guess will take so long won't happen in our lifetimes as slow as Apple goes compared to competitors haha ?
Apple has always maintained it healthy margins on hardware and to Apple a “test” technology can simply be on both iPad and Mac. Remember 3D Touch on iPhone that got replaced, G4 Cube, etc. Every product Apple releases is not a success and can either be expensive or have other drawbacks. miniLED is one of them. I suspect OLED is a better option on iPad, however Apple may not have been keen on its longevity compared to iPhone and a similar issue might have been the case for the 2021 MBP laptops. We know ProMotion is possible on an OLED and it may have just been a case of disconnected product development for iPhone and Mac.
That is a strange preference as one provides more usable screen estate and the other is only noticeable when looking at it from the rear. Considering most users look at the screen to get their work done, you are more concerned with what other think of the rear shell. ??
I'm thinking outside. It would make it uneven and lead to uneven pressure on the lid when in a backpack or the like.
Isn’t a tapered design also uneven, I don’t hear of people complaining that a MBA for example’s design is flawed and causing it to have a cracked or broken screen or body.
I think it's fascinating the different thoughts/opinions about the notch on the 14 inch MBP. When I read your reply I realized I had genuinely forgotten about the notch on my base model 14 inch, it just blends in now. Hope your Studio Max treats you well!
Yeah, I find it fascinating too. Everyone seems to be a bit compulsive around here, but with very different triggers. It's way more than glass is half empty. Say, I wonder if it is related to introvert/extrovert. I'm a severe introvert...
I'm sure my Studio will do what I want! (I'll get it maybe next week, and I can't wait. I've been wanting a MAX processor for a long time.)
