Other Do You Think iPhones 2019 Will Have a New Hardware Design?

[ftaok]

Benefits of replacing lightning with USB-C, hmm... The ability to plug in a USB flash drive and transfer all of my files easily to a computer. I only need to carry ONE charger that can charge an iPad, MacBook and an iPhone, while still being compatible with my friends Android devices of one of them forgets a charger. Makes it much easier to interface with a MacBook if I only need one USB-C cable for both an iPad and an iPhone.

Most people that own iPhones and other iOS devices have tons of Lightning cables already. Moving to USB-C just to consolidate cables would be a waste for most. I can see the benefit of being able to access USB-C thumbdrives and HDDs, but do you think Apple would really allow that on an iPhone? The iPad is a different story as it's being billed as a PC/Mac replacement.

There's really no benefit for moving to USB-C at this point, at least not yet. You won't get better audio or video outputs. At least when they transititioned from 30-pin to Lightning, there were tangible benefits. Connector durability/reliability, higher throughput speeds for syncing, smaller connector, etc. I don't really see much of a benefit for switching the port.

Arguments for switching to USB-C

1. Compliance with EU desire for standard charging ports across all mobile devices
2. Ability to connect to mass storage devices
3. Convenience for users that have already transitioned their devices (Mac/PC, new iPads, Android) to USB-C
4. Compatibility with new accessories designed with USB-C
5. No Apple royalties, therefore accessories would be less expensive, in theory.

Arguments for staying with Lightning

1. Lightning is a smaller port
2. Lightning is more durable (at least to the naked eye)
3. Huge installed base of Lightning users
4. Huge installed base of Lightning accessories
5. Apple receives royalties for Lightning (I suspect that many don't care about this)

Personally, I don't really see Apple switching to USB-C for the 2019 iPhones. Perhaps they'll wait for the installed base of USB-C Macs to grow (with the MBA now sporting USB-C) a little larger. 2020 iPhones, I'd be more willing to guess would be the year.

 

[Zelda Chestnut]

I agree with the majority of posts here that it will have the same chassis for 3 or 4 years. X came out in 2017 so that means 2020 or 2021 for the X looking frames. Then I think it will be fold up phones as the next form factor along with watches that can work without the iPhone nearby.
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Any phone manufacturer can built the sensors and cameras into the screen but it requires lots of sophisticated assembly. I think they will have it assembled in a module and then place it into the back of the screen that has to be translucent. It will not happen in the near future but might be doable in 5 years or so. But by then it foldable phones!

I agree with this, this seems the most logical. I think the current Gen X design will more or less be the form factor and design until the next big form factor which, I think, will be foldable. And that's still a couple years off, I imagine. I think there will be little tweaks, like the 7 and 8 which both brought little changes (less visible antenna, bigger camera, from aluminum to glass back in the 8, etc.) but what we have is generally it until 2020, 2021 or so. Maybe the notch will shrink but I don't think it will be removed altogether. Apple intentionally settled on the design with the notch for various reasons, and I don't think they're going to just scrap it that fast.

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[jimmy_uk]

Needs to follow new ipad pro design or I'm gonna be left confused. The X Series is a slippery bar of soap and will slip off nearly any surface its placed on. No fan of cases so for me Apple needs to get rid of camera bump and flatten them sides.

Oh let me not forget to mention they need to improve their QC across the board.

And get rid of PWM.

Dream setup would be to allow me to spec my own iphone. Imagine a custom build option like NIKEiD. So metal back (don't need wireless charging). Colour of choice (black on black for me). Memory size (I'll take 128GB). OLED or LCD (LCD until PWM resolved). Battery options (biggest battery, makes phone thicker). I'll pay £1250 for that!

Would be a game changer. I'll tell you what I want Apple, not what you want me to have. I'll allow a month lead time and a price bump over standard.

 

[bluespark]

Possibly a smaller notch, possibly USB-C, otherwise quite similar. I would expect to see lower prices with more color options making their way to the Xs successor. A third camera on the Xs Max successor is highly likely.

 

[Nipommu]

The real question is WHY DO PEOPLE CARE about a new design? If the phone is remains functional, who cares? I don't know why people expect such radical design changes...

Oh... and if you say, "I get bored...", you have more problems than just a phone.

You and I are opposite. I give 0 cares for internal updates because its going to happen anyway. I never ever bought an S cycle iphone because it does nothing for me and upgraded every single design change. I got the 6 and upgraded to X. My question is WHY would you want to upgrade an internal update cycle....why...I just don't understand

 

[puma1552]

I sure hope so.

Recycling the iPhone 6 sides for the ALL NEW HOT N WILD NEXT GEN IPHONE X was an extremely lazy and half-assed effort by a trillion dollar company. I'm sick of the rounded sides, just like chamfered edges on iPads got old AF.

Also, at this point software changes aren't going to change how I use my phone one way or another, so hardware redesigns are all I have to get excited about anymore.

 

[infamousnxtAir]

I doubt the design will be any different.

On the other hand, Apple should consider its pricing or at least the build quality in terms of how easy the back glass is replaced.

 

[bushman4]

We can only hope Apple makes hardware changes other than the camera and A13 SOC
a lot depends on what Samsung releases next month. Apple always wants to be ahead of them in innovation. It is possible we may see an underscreen fingerprint reader as well as Face ID

 

[44267547]

It is possible we may see an underscreen fingerprint reader as well as Face ID

Is it possible Apple could release a finger print reader under the display in the future? Yes. Will Apple release a fingerprint reader under the display along side face ID? Absolutely not. When it comes to biometric security, Apple has never been about offering alternatives with more than one option other than touch ID and face ID. Face ID Will be the sole purpose of biometric security moving forward until the next iteration of something else comes along.

 

[puma1552]

Is it possible Apple could release a finger print reader under the display in the future? Yes. Will Apple release a fingerprint reader under the display along side face ID? Absolutely not. When it comes to biometric security, Apple has never been about offering alternatives with more than one option other than touch ID and face ID. Face ID Will be the sole purpose of biometric security moving forward until the next iteration of something else comes along.

when will people let it go??????

 

[44267547]

when will people let it go??????

Never. But that’s because one of two things (Or both):

1.) You have those who are so disgruntled that touch ID was removed, they have the belief that every year Apple will bring it back, just like the 3.5 mm Jack to return, which they both won’t.

2.) Some read way too deep into bogus rumors off the Internet, they think they’re true, and then they spread it like it has accuracy behind it, then it creates some weird controversy of others believing that Apple will include touch ID under the display for the 2019 iPhone, which is not even close to being a reality.

 

[cableguy84]

I personally think touch id needs to be revived , so we have face id and touch id in the same device. Will give the user more options.

 

[Dino F]

I personally think touch id needs to be revived , so we have face id and touch id in the same device. Will give the user more options.

..Touch ID will never return - Face ID is so much faster!!

My iPhone XS is my first device with Face ID and the speed at which it unlocks is truly remarkable! It scans my face (even when wearing a thick wooly hat!) at the instant I touch the screen to wake it - way, way, faster than i could ever get my thumb on the fingerprint sensor!!!

 

[HEK]

..Touch ID will never return - Face ID so much faster!!

My iPhone XS is my first device with Face ID and the speed at which it unlocks is truly remarkable! It scans my face (even when wearing a thick wooly hat!) at the instant I touch the screen to wake it - way, way, faster than i could ever get my thumb on the fingerprint sensor!!!

Same experience here with former X Plus. And now XS Max and iPad Pro. Sitting up, laying down, standing, glasses, no glasses just plain works to point I totally forget about it. When I use old iPad Air 2 I get annoyed having to find home button and read finger print.

 

[Ta0jin]

The real question is WHY DO PEOPLE CARE about a new design? If the phone is remains functional, who cares? I don't know why people expect such radical design changes...

Oh... and if you say, "I get bored...", you have more problems than just a phone.

There are some that immediately put their phone in a case and don't care about the design and never look at the design of the device at the same time there are some of us that do care. I like the current design ok but I'm not sure Apple can afford to keep recycling the same design as it is. It doesn't have to be a complete overhaul but small design tweaks here and there are a great way to keep the design from feeling stale for those that use the phone caseless and don't want to feel like we bought the same phone another year.

 

[bigjnyc]

Didn't Tim cook make a comment in the iPhone X keynote alluding to this being the design for the next 10 years or something along those lines? I forget exactly what he said but something about the design and tech being 10 years ahead of its time and being the direction for the next 10 years blah blah blah.... Maybe I'm way off here but someone with a better memory can chime in.

I totally wouldn't put it past Apple to milk a design for 10 years lol.

 

[Ta0jin]

Didn't Tim cook make a comment in the iPhone X keynote alluding to this being the design for the next 10 years or something along those lines? I forget exactly what he said but something about the design and tech being 10 years ahead of its time and being the direction for the next 10 years blah blah blah.... Maybe I'm way off here but someone with a better memory can chime in.

I totally wouldn't put it past Apple to milk a design for 10 years lol.

If he did, I’m sure he didn’t consider just how hungry these smaller companies like One Plus, Oppo, etc were going to be. Not saying they are direct competition but if Apple doesn’t evolve, people who don’t care as much about the ecosystem may decide to switch. I don’t think he can afford to milk the same design for that long lol. In all honesty I think next years iPhone will see some tweaks in the way of design it being a non “S” year.

 

[44267547]

If he did, I’m sure he didn’t consider just how hungry these smaller companies like One Plus, Oppo, Huawei, etc we’re going to be. Not saying they are direct competition but if Apple doesn’t evolve, people who don’t care as much about the ecosystem may decide to switch. I don’t think he can afford to milk the same design for that long lol. In all honesty I think next years iPhone will see some tweaks in the way of design it being a non “S” year.

Apples biggest competition is actually in China I think for those phones that you’re mentioning above, but they have not made their way over to the United States yet. Still, the one thing Apple has that you also mentioned, is the ecosystem, Apple knows that if they can tie the consumer with the iPhone, everything branches off from there. As for the iPhone design, I expect that to stay the same and have minimally invasive changes over the next few years maybe with the notch, the side buttons from the volume to be eliminated eventually, etc.

 

[Ta0jin]

Apples biggest competition is actually in China I think for those phones that you’re mentioning above, but they have not made their way over to the United States yet. Still, the one thing Apple has that you also mentioned, is the ecosystem, Apple knows that if they can tie the consumer with the iPhone, everything branches off from there. As for the iPhone design, I expect that to stay the same and have minimally invasive changes over the next few years maybe with the notch, the side buttons from the volume to be eliminated eventually, etc.

Besides One Plus you are right they aren’t over here yet but I imagine they will for sure eventually lol. It will be interesting to see how things develop with mobile advancement in 2019.

 

[nviz22]

I think the 2019 iPhones will be lame ducks with very little upgrades to boot. If you’re on an 8 or older it might be worth it, but definitely not with the X/XS/XR devices.

 

[The Game 161]

I think the 2019 iPhones will be lame ducks with very little upgrades to boot. If you’re on an 8 or older it might be worth it, but definitely not with the X/XS/XR devices.

I think the big improvements many be IOS 13...

 

[nviz22]

I think the big improvements many be IOS 13...

Yep, that’s what I think too. If iOS 13 is trash, I might consider moving to a Pixel.

 

[44267547]

I think the 2019 iPhones will be lame ducks with very little upgrades to boot. If you’re on an 8 or older it might be worth it, but definitely not with the X/XS/XR devices.

I agree. If anyone follows Apple, they know they like to ration their features on a year-to-year basis, where they rarely release major improvements every single year with hardware, it’s typically very incremental, this year being the triple lens camera, which I suspect possibly to be exclusive to the Max, but we will see how Apple will divide that.

Otherwise, as for iOS 13, all I ask for is an ‘Overhauled Siri’. It’s crucial to my experience with dictation, and it’s time for them to pace the competition, which we know Apple has the capability to do that.

 

[Ta0jin]

I agree. If anyone follows Apple, they know they like to ration their features on a year-to-year basis, where they rarely release major improvements every single year with hardware, it’s typically very incremental, this year being the triple lens camera, which I suspect possibly to be exclusive to the Max, but we will see how Apple will divide that.

Otherwise, as for iOS 13, all I ask for is an ‘Overhauled Siri’. It’s crucial to my experience with dictation, and it’s time for them to pace the competition, which we know Apple has the capability to do that.

Thank you! You hit the nail on the head. Siri needs an overhaul for sure. And while they’re at it maybe better low light for night photography would be great.

 

[nviz22]

I agree. If anyone follows Apple, they know they like to ration their features on a year-to-year basis, where they rarely release major improvements every single year with hardware, it’s typically very incremental, this year being the triple lens camera, which I suspect possibly to be exclusive to the Max, but we will see how Apple will divide that.

Otherwise, as for iOS 13, all I ask for is an ‘Overhauled Siri’. It’s crucial to my experience with dictation, and it’s time for them to pace the competition, which we know Apple has the capability to do that.

With 5G coming in 2020, I wouldn’t even buy a new iPhone because it makes a 2019 purchase redundant too.

iOS 13 needs a UI overhaul, more multi-tasking, and features to take advantage of more screen real-estate.