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Do you think Steve Jobs is a hero.

  • Yes

    Votes: 16 20.3%
  • No

    Votes: 63 79.7%

  • Total voters
    79

AppleMacDudeG4

macrumors member
Apr 16, 2011
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steve jobs hero

While some may not see him as a hero, I believe he is. He made technology accessible to people who might not have been able to use technology at all without him to push people into making the products insanely great.

Yes he did have his character flaws the same way that we all have charcter flaws but he was a man driven to push technology to be both functional as well as being powerful and intuitive.

Now we need to think what color cape Ninja would use.
 

kdarling

macrumors P6
That's like asking, is Ron Popeil a hero?

Like Jobs, he was a great salesman and changed many people's lives with his popular and affordable products. Heck, he was voted one of the top influences on the way Americans thought of preparing food, especially for his seminal Ronco Veg-O-Matic.

Unlike Jobs, Popeil personally invented most of his own products.
 

Naimfan

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Jan 15, 2003
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No.

Want an example of someone who IS a hero? United States Army Staff Sergeant Salvatore Giunta. Look him up.
 

eawmp1

macrumors 601
Feb 19, 2008
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Perhaps a hero to the employees and stockholders if Apple when he reassumed the leadership at Apple.

Ford and Edison have alot in common with Jobs, but hero is not the word I would ascribe to any of them.
 

eljanitor

macrumors 6502
Feb 10, 2011
411
20
I would say that someone somewhere in the world has probably written some kind of school report using him as a hero.
 

Lord Blackadder

macrumors P6
May 7, 2004
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5,511
Sod off
I can see him being a "hero" to budding entrepreneurs, in the sense that he is a model for success.

But he is not a "hero" in the traditional sense. He was a very influential person.
 
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doktordoris

macrumors 6502a
Mar 14, 2009
532
1
Certainly not. In fact I find the suggestion insulting to those who have been real heroes. He ran a business, but he didn't even do that brilliantly, or else he wouldn't have allowed the Scully situation to occur. Didn't Woz do all the early stuff that made apple cash? And, if I recall correctly, didn't Jobs rip Woz off over some royalties?. All the cool gadgets apple sells now are designed by Jonny Ives. So in short, he tended to rip his friends off, he ignored his child for years (as far as I know, I could be wrong), he didn't design any of the latest apple success stories himself, and he was a curmudgeon.

To suggest placing him alongside Churchill, Brunel, Wellington, Henry VII, Bazalgette, Dr John Snow etc is ludicrous.

Oh yes, didn't I also read that he bought houses all over the place in the states, so he could get onto as many organ transplant lists as possible? If true, I find that fairly reprehensible too, but I probably don't know the whole story.

Just thought of one thing he did which was fairly awesome; putting together the team which built the next machines, and indirectly helped TBL invent the web.

ANd I am glad to see its 45:9 no to yes on the vote. I knew mac owners were clever, sensitive types and not just fawning apple fans.
 
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Mr. McMac

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Dec 21, 2009
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Far away from liberals
I don't get why anyone would think Jobs is a hero. He was completely full of himself and couldn't give a rats ass about any of you 9 fanboys. It's time to move on and get a life!
 

Apple OC

macrumors 68040
Oct 14, 2010
3,667
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Steve Jobs is not even close to being a hero ... to put "Hero" into perspective ... an example of a hero is a Fireman who will put themselves in danger to save a stranger's life.
 

phySi0

macrumors member
Jun 19, 2011
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0
You don't want to know!
he·ro   [heer-oh]
noun, plural -roes; for 5 also -ros.
1.
a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities.
2.
a person who, in the opinion of others, has heroic qualities or has performed a heroic act and is regarded as a model or ideal: He was a local hero when he saved the drowning child.
3.
the principal male character in a story, play, film, etc.

Sorry, SJ doesn't fit into any of those meanings of the word hero. Some soldiers are heroes, some people who are put into incredibly difficult positions are heroes, some people who are dealing with life changing issues each day are heroes.

SJ was not a hero, and if you think he was you probably need to re-evaluate your viewpoint on life and technology.

So you don't think those two times he came back from cancer to introduce the iPhone and iPad make him a hero? Taking in mind he took massive risks with Apple to make things that people enjoyed or would have a better experience with, not what would make him more money. Steve cared about the customer and that's a hero in my books. A man who goes against the status quo, when the status quo is bad, e.g. GHz to fool customers into thinking you have a faster computer, rather than to actually create a faster computer for people, when Apple kept it at the MHz level. How about all the great things he did for disabled people with his really accessible computers and devices?

Steve Jobs was definitely a hero!
 

Suno

macrumors 6502
Dec 12, 2011
252
1
If you're defining Steve Jobs as a hero for what he's done, than you either have a twisted sense of the word hero or you define the term hero very loosely.

He was an excellent salesmen, no doubt, and he was a very driven person. A hero? Not even close.

In fact, I'm of the opinion that he was kind of an ass in real life.
 

Shrink

macrumors G3
Feb 26, 2011
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1,727
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If you're defining Steve Jobs as a hero for what he's done, than you either have a twisted sense of the word hero or you define the term hero very loosely.

He was an excellent salesmen, no doubt, and he was a very driven person. A hero? Not even close.

In fact, I'm of the opinion that he was kind of an ass in real life.

This ^^^ says it for me perfectly!:)
 

Judas1

macrumors 6502a
Aug 4, 2011
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There are many heroes out there, a majority of them don't get any recognition at all (inspirational teachers, devoted parents, etc.) It sickens me that Steve is seen as a hero by so many when all he did was make popular technology. While its nice to be able to play with a tablet or a smart phone, its hardly anything lifechanging.
 

Big D 51

macrumors 6502a
Jan 15, 2011
771
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Mobile, AL
In my opinion, not a hero at all. I think of a hero being someone who saves others. Especially those who risk their own life to save someone else's.

Clever, brilliant, etc. better explains Jobs.
 

kdarling

macrumors P6
So you don't think those two times he came back from cancer to introduce the iPhone and iPad make him a hero?

A dying man who keeps working until the end so that he can support his family as long as possible, is a selfless hero.

A dying billionaire who keeps working, instead of being with his family, is doing it for more selfish reasons.

Taking in mind he took massive risks with Apple to make things that people enjoyed or would have a better experience with, not what would make him more money.

On the contrary, under Jobs' second reign, Apple did not take chances. They only made and sold something when it was most likely to make money.

They shared none of the risks of early products, but rather reaped the rewards of technologies built up by others. They didn't build a phone until the infrastructure and parts had come of age. They didn't build a tablet until the time was ripe for one.

Smart business, yes. Risk taking? No sir.
 

kockgunner

macrumors 68000
Sep 24, 2007
1,565
22
Vancouver, Canada
Even thought you keep reading that SJ wasn't right all the time, I think all the interviews and people who worked with him prove that he was different. I mean, he made Apple, got kicked out, didn't give up and made Pixar successful, started NeXt (the basis for OS X kinda), came back to Apple and made it into one of the most valuable and influential companies in the world. That's a role model for me.

I don't see other companies with so much impact and I don't even think it's part of their marketing. Even when I was an elementary kid, I played with an iMac (the original one) and wanted that computer, which I found out was a Mac later on, ever since.

Nothing is perfect, but I'm SO glad Steve has created Apple and fostered such an innovative culture to push the industry forward.
 

Bonch

macrumors 6502
May 28, 2005
442
1
Lithuania
A dying man who keeps working until the end so that he can support his family as long as possible, is a selfless hero.

A dying billionaire who keeps working, instead of being with his family, is doing it for more selfish reasons.



On the contrary, under Jobs' second reign, Apple did not take chances. They only made and sold something when it was most likely to make money.

They shared none of the risks of early products, but rather reaped the rewards of technologies built up by others. They didn't build a phone until the infrastructure and parts had come of age. They didn't build a tablet until the time was ripe for one.

Smart business, yes. Risk taking? No sir.


Wrong on all points, unfortunately.
 
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