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TheSpaz does not care about CC&P, to name one of the features. I don't know how anyone can not use it, since I use it all the time. So, that's one reason he's happy in the 2.2.1 dark ages.

aggie, 1 page of "apps" helps your iPhone run well and smooth. :rolleyes: That's what the Spaz has, 1 page of beautiful default apps.
 
Yes, but he said that he HAD a 3GS, and found his 2.2.1 3G to be faster...
WTF LMAO!

That's not what I said. I had an iPhone 3GS and I didn't like it for other reasons. I went back to my iPhone 3G and it runs well on 2.2.1.

The iPhone 3GS is still faster than 2.2.1.

2.2.1 = Perfect OS for iPhone 2G/3G
3.x = Perfect OS for iPhone 3GS

aggie, 1 page of "apps" helps your iPhone run well and smooth. :rolleyes: That's what the Spaz has, 1 page of beautiful default apps.

Doesn't matter how many pages you have. I still found 3.x to be annoying. Believe me, I've tried every single version of 3.x. I always revert back to 2.2.1.
 
IF anyone knows of a way back to 2.2.1 or god wiling, 1.1.4, PLEASE, PLEASE help me out! I've tried a few times and even with downgrading iTunes I still get error messages. :(

Okay... I've done this a few times and I have come up with a 100% way to downgrade from any 3.0/3.0.1/3.1/3.1.2 firmware back to 2.2.1 without hassles.

1. Download PwnageTool 2.2.5 for Mac
2. Follow the on-screen instructions to pwn your iPhone (make sure not to check "Activate iPhone")
3. Use PwnageTool to help you get in DFU mode and restore to your custom firmware.
4. Your iPhone should downgrade to 2.2.1 really easily with iTunes 9.0.2

You can either leave it at that (if you want to be jailbroken). Simply jailbreaking without installing Cydia or Installer would probably be fine for most people.

For those who wish not to be jailbroken, you still have to do the steps above in order to downgrade to a non-jailbroken iPhone.

Now we'll need to re-restore your iPhone to the official 2.2.1 firmware. Follow the next instructions:

5. Option-Click Restore and choose the *official* 2.2.1 firmware
6. It will look like it's installing 2.2.1, but it will finish with an error (Only if you have an iPhone 3G). 2.2.1 has been successfully installed, but to kick it out of recovery mode, do the following:

7. Download a command-line tool called "iRecovery" and install it.

Then open Utilities>Terminal.app

Then enter these commands (Note: Hit return after every line):

Code:
iRecovery -s
setenv auto-boot true
saveenv
fsboot

Then you should be all set.

I hope this is helpful.
 
Okay... I've done this a few times and I have come up with a 100% way to downgrade from any 3.0/3.0.1/3.1/3.1.2 firmware back to 2.2.1 without hassles.

1. Download PwnageTool 2.2.5 for Mac
2. Follow the on-screen instructions to pwn your iPhone (make sure not to check "Activate iPhone")
3. Use PwnageTool to help you get in DFU mode and restore to your custom firmware.
4. Your iPhone should downgrade to 2.2.1 really easily with iTunes 9.0.2

You can either leave it at that (if you want to be jailbroken). Simply jailbreaking without installing Cydia or Installer would probably be fine for most people.

For those who wish not to be jailbroken, you still have to do the steps above in order to downgrade to a non-jailbroken iPhone.

Now we'll need to re-restore your iPhone to the official 2.2.1 firmware. Follow the next instructions:

5. Option-Click Restore and choose the *official* 2.2.1 firmware
6. It will look like it's installing 2.2.1, but it will finish with an error (Only if you have an iPhone 3G). 2.2.1 has been successfully installed, but to kick it out of recovery mode, do the following:

7. Download a command-line tool called "iRecovery" and install it.

Then open Utilities>Terminal.app

Then enter these commands (Note: Hit return after every line):

Code:
iRecovery -s
setenv auto-boot true
saveenv
fsboot

Then you should be all set.

I hope this is helpful.

I need to unlock my iPhone for T-Mobile! Will this procedure work for that process? It should, I assume.
After downgrading to 2.2.1, is it very difficult to downgrade to 1.1.4??
 
This is AWESOME! After downgrading to 2.2.1, is it very difficult to downgrade to 1.1.4??

Did the downgrade work for you?

I think you need iTunes 7.6 to downgrade to 1.1.4. I haven't done it in a long time, and the last time I downgraded to 1.1.4, I used my old iPod touch. I'm not sure if it would work on an iPhone (because of the baseband version and everything).

I don't think it's worth it. 2.2.1 runs pretty darn good.

I need to unlock my iPhone for T-Mobile! Will this procedure work for that process? It should, I assume.
After downgrading to 2.2.1, is it very difficult to downgrade to 1.1.4??

If you need to unlock it, just use PwnageTool from my tutorial and unlock it that way. You can unlock the original iPhone very easily.
 
Can everyone please just start ignoring all of TheSpaz's posts. Then maybe he will go away. He has no real knowledge about how computers and operating systems work, so he never contributes any factual information. He contributes absolutely nothing to the community here yet he refuses to go away.
 
Did the downgrade work for you?

I think you need iTunes 7.6 to downgrade to 1.1.4. I haven't done it in a long time, and the last time I downgraded to 1.1.4, I used my old iPod touch. I'm not sure if it would work on an iPhone (because of the baseband version and everything).

I don't think it's worth it. 2.2.1 runs pretty darn good.



If you need to unlock it, just use PwnageTool from my tutorial and unlock it that way. You can unlock the original iPhone very easily.

3.1.2 runs pretty fast on my iPhone, as long as I've restored within the last day or 2! Haha I would LOVE to get back to 1.1.4! It was SO fast. 2.2.1 was as well though. It's a toss-up on features I guess.
 
I hope 3.2 is coming soon, so Apple can get out of the stone age and enable the features that are already hidden in the iPhone and Touch, such as:

- Bluetooth file transfer
- Wireless-N
- Activating the FM transmitter/receiver
- Native downloading of email attachments
 
I hope 3.2 is coming soon, so Apple can get out of the stone age and enable the features that are already hidden in the iPhone and Touch, such as:

- Bluetooth file transfer
- Wireless-N
- Activating the FM transmitter/receiver
- Native downloading of email attachments

Aren't these features exclusive to the 3GS?
 
Aren't these features exclusive to the 3GS?

As far as iPhones go, they probably are exclusive to the 3GS, but I believe that they're also present in the iPod Touch 3G as well. Basically, if you can jailbreak and write apps to enable these functions (which many have), they're already there, but Apple has not deemed us worthy of enabling them yet.
 
Can everyone please just start ignoring all of TheSpaz's posts. Then maybe he will go away. He has no real knowledge about how computers and operating systems work, so he never contributes any factual information. He contributes absolutely nothing to the community here yet he refuses to go away.

I simply stated that I hope 3.2 clears up the last remaining issues that I have with the 3.x series. Until Apple fixes my problems, I'll stay on 2.2.1 where I'm happy I don't give an Expletive Deleted about the features that 3.x has. I have an old iPhone 3G that Apple has made 3.x a less than excellent experience on.

Apple shifted their focus to the iPhone 3GS. Everything is about the faster hardware now and if I want my iPhone to run like it used to, I have to stay on 2.2.1 and I'm fine with that. Plus, I like some of the 2.2.1-specific features that 3.x doesn't have. If I wanted an iPhone 3GS, I wouldn't have returned it.

I want an iPhone that I'm happy with and the only iPhone that I'm happy with is my iPhone 3G (matte) running OS 2.2.1.

People ask me why I'm running old software and those are my reasons. I'm not holding my breath for any speed improvements in 3.2 because I believe Apple has given up on previous generation hardware and is only going to optimize the newer, faster hardware.

I don't wanna upgrade my phone just to have copy and paste (because that's pretty much all 3.x has to offer *to me*.

Ignore me if you want, but I'm just speaking how I feel. Done.
 
Did the downgrade work for you?

It worked BEAUTIFULLY! Thank you SO much! WOW I can't believe how freaking FAST this thing is running! You were right, 2.2.1 is best for the original iPhone. :D My iPhone is running like BUTTAH now! Haha
 
It worked BEAUTIFULLY! Thank you SO much! WOW I can't believe how freaking FAST this thing is running! You were right, 2.2.1 is best for the original iPhone. :D My iPhone is running like BUTTAH now! Haha

You're welcome man! It's nice to see someone else who has seen the light and isn't quick to make fun of me.

You're right about the rotation thing to. It annoyed me when I would barely move my iPhone or go to set it down and it switches to landscape.

Also, there are a few things that I can't do on 3.0 anyways. I'm on a pre-paid plan so I don't have data access:

1. I can't send MMS anyway
2. Push notifications aren't very useful when they depend on wifi

Then there's other reasons:

1. I only have the first page filled with apps (by choice) the only non-Apple app is "Things"
2. It's good to finally lose the stupid Voice Memos app
3. I never used Spotlight when I had it. It was a waste of resources to me.
4. I really don't care about landscape Mail or Text. I find it awkward to type in landscape most of the time. I used to think I wanted that feature but after having it, it's nothing special.
5. Apps launch faster (and smoother)
6. Bluetooth Audio is less quality than using the USB connector in my car.
7. I have no use for having 11 pages of apps
8. While it was nice to sync my notes, the truth is, I don't take many notes (and I can back them up with PhoneView anyways.)

That's all I can think of right now, but the fact is, I'm much happier on 2.2.1 for the time being. If something *BETTER* comes along, then I'll take it but until then, I'll stay here where it's nice.
 
I couldn't care less. I'm ready for 4.0. I still like my iPhone, but just ready for something new regarding the OS in terms of organizing, running a few things in the background, etc, etc. Same ole crap that's been on the wish list for quite some time now.

I'm glad Android 2.0 is out now and hopefully this makes Apple raise the bar a bit. Although I'm not that hopeful as no one really makes Apple flinch. I guess we'll find out next summer.
 
When Apple releases OS 10.0 for the iPhone, I guess TheSpaz is still using 2.2.1 limited edition. :rolleyes:
 
I hope 3.2 is coming soon, so Apple can get out of the stone age and enable the features that are already hidden in the iPhone and Touch, such as:

- Bluetooth file transfer
- Wireless-N
- Activating the FM transmitter/receiver
- Native downloading of email attachments

These won't be coming til 4.0
 
I didn't like the iPhone 3GS. I had one, but I returned it 3 times until just returning it completely. My iPhone 3G is perfect and I really don't mind staying on 2.2.1 because it works great for me.

What could you possibly not like about the 3GS? It's the 3g on a bit of steroids.
 
What could you possibly not like about the 3GS? It's the 3g on a bit of steroids.

1. My first iPhone 3GS backlight burned out (had to return it)
2. My second iPhone 3GS had a very yellow tint only on the bottom half of the screen and the plastic didn't line up with the metal frame (causing a sharp edge that I didn't like feeling every time I picked up the phone)
3. My third iPhone 3GS also had a yellow tint on the bottom half of the screen and again, the bezel didn't fit the plastic back and the glass was sunken one one side.

After my third one, I was sick of returning them and I'd rather just go back to the iPhone I love. I don't care that I run 2.2.1. At least I don't have to buy and use an iPhone that I am unhappy with. I'd rather be happy and enjoy my iPhone rather than worry about feeling a sharp piece of metal every time I pick up my iPhone and then looking at a screen that looks like something peed on the bottom half.

Please don't get him started. He has a host of imagined issues with "build quality" that we don't all need to hear again.

My issues were not imagined. If they were, then I'd have the same issues on my iPhone 3G because they're supposedly the same design.

PS: You heard it again. What are you going to do about it?
 
You're welcome man! It's nice to see someone else who has seen the light and isn't quick to make fun of me.

You're right about the rotation thing to. It annoyed me when I would barely move my iPhone or go to set it down and it switches to landscape.

Also, there are a few things that I can't do on 3.0 anyways. I'm on a pre-paid plan so I don't have data access:

1. I can't send MMS anyway
2. Push notifications aren't very useful when they depend on wifi

Then there's other reasons:

1. I only have the first page filled with apps (by choice) the only non-Apple app is "Things"
2. It's good to finally lose the stupid Voice Memos app
3. I never used Spotlight when I had it. It was a waste of resources to me.
4. I really don't care about landscape Mail or Text. I find it awkward to type in landscape most of the time. I used to think I wanted that feature but after having it, it's nothing special.
5. Apps launch faster (and smoother)
6. Bluetooth Audio is less quality than using the USB connector in my car.
7. I have no use for having 11 pages of apps
8. While it was nice to sync my notes, the truth is, I don't take many notes (and I can back them up with PhoneView anyways.)

That's all I can think of right now, but the fact is, I'm much happier on 2.2.1 for the time being. If something *BETTER* comes along, then I'll take it but until then, I'll stay here where it's nice.

You're right, Push never worked for me. As for the other things I highly doubt that most people with actual lives use 11 pages of Apps. I use notes for shopping lists and to-do's sometimes. I only used Voice Memos once to see what it was like and that's it. I never used Spotlight (although I can see how it would be useful to someone who uses their iPhone for business).

Basically what it comes down to for me is that I wanted a phone that had everything: iPod, SMS, Internet, email, clock, calendar. I don't need 11 pages of Apps because I don't have time to waste. I like to interact with people and have fun, not sit at home and play on my iPhone. If I want to check my facebook I can use Safari, I don't need the App.

I want my iPhone to run smoothly and 3.0+ firmwares just FELT slow. 2.2.1 FEELS a lot smoother. Whether or not the actual speeds of certain tasks has improved isn't important. My iPhone runs how I want it to now and that's all that matters. :)
 
I don't see why people are takingthe mic of of TheSpazz he is only saying his views. I agree with him with his pooijt that apple leave the older models when they release a new product. They did that with the iPod Classic. If he wants to stay with 2.2.1 so be it. It's his opinion
 
You're right, Push never worked for me. As for the other things I highly doubt that most people with actual lives use 11 pages of Apps. I use notes for shopping lists and to-do's sometimes. I only used Voice Memos once to see what it was like and that's it. I never used Spotlight (although I can see how it would be useful to someone who uses their iPhone for business).

Basically what it comes down to for me is that I wanted a phone that had everything: iPod, SMS, Internet, email, clock, calendar. I don't need 11 pages of Apps because I don't have time to waste. I like to interact with people and have fun, not sit at home and play on my iPhone. If I want to check my facebook I can use Safari, I don't need the App.

I want my iPhone to run smoothly and 3.0+ firmwares just FELT slow. 2.2.1 FEELS a lot smoother. Whether or not the actual speeds of certain tasks has improved isn't important. My iPhone runs how I want it to now and that's all that matters. :)

Exactly! 2.2.1 has everything I *need* on it. I need my phone to run smoothly (like it did the day I bought it). I'm not going to upgrade to 3.0 just to have bells and whistles that I don't need especially since it slows my phone down and doesn't feel like the day I bought it anymore.

Yes, I admit that I miss copy and paste every once in a while when I enter a situation that I need it, but I get passed it and everything's fine again. To me, the benefits of 2.2.1 outweigh the benefits of 3.x. Now, I realize this is not the view of the majority, but I'm a special case. Therefore, I don't think it's wrong to be running 2.2.1.

This is like someone who chooses to run Tiger because they have a very old PowerPC G4 1GHz. Sure, they CAN upgrade to Leopard, but it will slow their computer down and they'd rather have a computer that is fast and the benefits of Leopard aren't important to their computer needs.
 
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