I agree. If Windows Phone can reach 15% market share in a couple of years (whether that's realistic or not is another thread) Nokia will be on very solid footing. I think Nokia will be very big in the low end market, especially outside the US.
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I agree. If Windows Phone can reach 15% market share in a couple of years (whether that's realistic or not is another thread) Nokia will be on very solid footing. I think Nokia will be very big in the low end market, especially outside the US.
I think it's totally possible for Window's Phone to gain greater than 10% market provided MSFT stops dicking around.
Can anyone even name the last time Windows Phone has seen a major update?
Why is MSFT still not leveraging it's XBOX, Office, and Windows desktop resources to bolster Windows Phone 8?
On paper there is no reason for Windows Phone to not have a bigger share, but the lapses are 100% in MSFT's hands, and as an organization they need to start taking mobile more seriously by adding more features to Windows Phone and leveraging more of their vast software experience and resources.
Agreed, when you look how extremely busy Apple and Google have been in the same time frame creating apps and services to entice people over to their side, it just makes whats happening with Windows phone look even more baffling. Its poor showing when this company has been in the mobile industry far longer than the other two.
As you say, they have massive intellectual properties in the Office suite and Xbox yet they have not been implemented in way that could be represented as true handset selling incentives.
The only reason i could think of for their lack of productivity is maybe they want to see how far WP can go as it is before they truly and aggressively commit to it. I wouldn't hold my breath though, Microsoft have been shooting themselves in the foot on a more frequent basis lately.
Nokia is helping Microsoft. Microsoft is helping Nokia. As a Nokia stockholder, that is what I firmly believe.
Nokia had two choices. Be a big fish in a small pond, or be a moderate sized fish in a huge ocean. They picked the better choice.
Nokia had two choices. Be a big fish in a small pond, or be a moderate sized fish in a huge ocean. They picked the better choice.
Yeah, well, at least the bloat is removable, unlike on Android where you have to disable or root the thing before it's possible.
at least you can change the UI, vastly!
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yes, the problem is that vendors wont be able to differentiate. and that's why, none of them is really interested in windows phones.
at least you can change the UI, vastly!
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yes, the problem is that vendors wont be able to differentiate. and that's why, none of them is really interested in windows phones.
Woohoo?
Is this what gets Android fans hot and bothered... changing the UI?
Just pick something and stick with it.
Woohoo?
Is this what gets Android fans hot and bothered... changing the UI?
What's confusing about it?
Many people like to switch things up now and again. They buy different style clothing. Get new furniture. Paint their rooms. Buy a different model car. Try new food. Visit new places.
Even Apple decided to change their UI after sticking with the old one for so long.
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The confusing thing is that the best thing to do is find what works and stick with it. These aren't clothes, where if you don't change it you'll start to smell. I also don't see people bragging about rooms because you can paint them.
Buying a new car is like buying a different phone, not changing the UI.
These are tools, they're just computers.
It's confusing that somebody would buy a computer based on something more than what can be done with it and how quickly it can be accomplished.
Sure they do. People buy houses because they do more with them than, say, a rental apartment where the manager decides the colors.
Being able to customize is not necessarily the only reason they buy what they do.
As for being confused that somebody would buy based on something other than pure functionality, that situation covers a lot of phone buyers who pick devices based on color, status, price, etc.
There goes my dreams of a Nokia Android device.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/2/46...evices-and-services-unit-unites-windows-phone
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/2/46...evices-and-services-unit-unites-windows-phone
Woohoo?
Is this what gets Android fans hot and bothered... changing the UI?
Very shallow argument. One who just picks something and sticks with it is either a robot or doesn't like variety at all. People attach too much importance to phones. At the end of the day, its just a toy. For all serious work, my desktop is enough
Does microsoft has a lot of backup money as they are able to invest huge amounts in risky ventures( Surface RT Failure, Nokia acquisition). I was reading an article regarding Nintendo where they mentioned that Nintendo has such a huge reserve that it wont go anywhere for the next 100 years despite so many people saying its doomed. Is this the case with MS as well?
Ah, what works for you it is what works for me?
Do we have to have the same UI?
Thanks, but no.
And exactly what is confusing? The possibility of change or not being used to that possibility?
I guess this should put to rest the idea of whether or not Microsoft will continue to put it's weight behind Windows Phone.
Better to be happy with what you have then worry about making your home screen look good every week. Call me a robot, but I have other things to do than waste my time figuring out placements of icons and widgets. 99% of the icon packs on Android didn't even theme the majority of apps I was using anyway.
"Buying a new car is like buying a different phone, not changing the UI"
gotcha!
you can change the look of your car
here, some evidences:
why dont you stay with one phone for your whole life, while i enjoy the android world
"These aren't clothes, where if you don't change it you'll start to smell"
now that's confusing....
why did apple change the look of ios if it wasnt smelly(old and boring) yet
This is similar as to Samsung being the only one releasing Bada or Tizen phones. WP8 will eventually disappear.
Biggest problem now is that no developers are going to want to release their apps on WP if Nokia/Microsoft is the only one producing this phones.
Consider the platform finished.
"Buying a new car is like buying a different phone, not changing the UI"
gotcha!
you can change the look of your car
here, some evidences:
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why dont you stay with one phone for your whole life, while i enjoy the android world
"These aren't clothes, where if you don't change it you'll start to smell"
now that's confusing....
why did apple change the look of ios if it wasnt smelly(old and boring) yet
You have to change your clothes for hygiene.
Your UI doesn't have to change.
Apple changed the icons. They didn't really change the UI all that much.
Oh, you got me.
/rolls eyes
Strong answer for what? For my opinion being different than yours? For me thinking differently than you? I apologize , then, we should all value the same things the same amount.
Nokia is roughly 95% of the WP8 market. So yeah I think WP8 would have been a quick death without Nokia. Nokia brings a lot to the table. Their amazing build quality, screens, cameras, and native apps.
That being said, I really hope Nokia wakes up at some point and releases an Android phone. WP8 has its cool stuff, but without support from the Dev community and Google it's not going anywhere.
That being said, I really hope Nokia wakes up at some point and releases an Android phone. WP8 has its cool stuff, but without support from the Dev community and Google it's not going anywhere.