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kenoh

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Didn't watch the video but by the context of your post I assume that by "PD" you're alluding to Peak Design camera straps and other similar gear..... I know that their stuff is very popular among a lot of photographers, but I've never been too eager to try it; not sure that I would ever completely trust it. I'm perfectly happy with my Op/Tech straps that I've used for years.
I have fallen over/down/onto plenty of stuff and PD hasn't failed me yet. Really like their stuff in general but they are creeping into expensive territory.
 

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Didn't watch the video but by the context of your post I assume that by "PD" you're alluding to Peak Design camera straps and other similar gear..... I know that their stuff is very popular among a lot of photographers, but I've never been too eager to try it; not sure that I would ever completely trust it. I'm perfectly happy with my Op/Tech straps that I've used for years.
I love the anchor links, I keep them on my camera constantly.
 
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Darmok N Jalad

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My issue with the 12 mini is that if flares really badly when the sun is anywhere in front of the camera array (but not in the frame). I don’t recall having this issue with the XR, but with the 12 mini, many of my photos and videos look like they were taken by JJ Abrams.
 

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My issue with the 12 mini is that if flares really badly when the sun is anywhere in front of the camera array (but not in the frame). I don’t recall having this issue with the XR, but with the 12 mini, many of my photos and videos look like they were taken by JJ Abrams.
Is this the right thread?
 

Darmok N Jalad

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Is this the right thread?
Sorry, I failed context school. I was replying to @mackmgg in regard to using the iPhone more. I find I use the camera on the 12 less due to the flaring I run into when outdoors. It has the night mode, which is pretty slick, but that’s such a rare use case for me. In even more context, phones have really taken away the P&S share, but I’m not really happy with the iPhone camera array. If I didn’t have an ILC, I’m not sure what I’d have to do to salvage the results on the iPhone, but I get a lot of flare when I don’t expect to get it, or at least way more than the XR ever did.
 
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Clix Pix

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I love the anchor links, I keep on my camera constantly.
Hey, thank you for this!! Aha, might be the solution for me, as I've just gotten through reading various reviews of the two PD straps (Slide and Slide Light) and still feeling a bit dubious about them. I was thinking that well, this would be an item which I would want to actually feel, handle and try at a camera store rather than just blindly ordering online. I also am really quite fond of my Op/Tech straps, too, and they have served me well through the years. One reason I'm thinking about camera straps at all now is that I'm starting to make my list of accessories that will be needed when I make my next big purchase. I never use the straps which come in the box with a new camera. Last time was easy when it came to straps, as I simply used an Op/Tech strap that had been removed from one of my Nikon bodies prior to making the Big Switch. I have another Op/Tech strap that isn't being used now but it is a bit older and much more worn.

Hm.......I think I will go ahead and get me a set of these anchor thingies, see how they work with the Op/Tech strap that's on the RX10 M4 (not about to risk my A7R IV until I spend some time using them!) and if they're as effective as they sound, in the long run they could well be the answer, with the best of both worlds.
 

kenoh

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Hey, thank you for this!! Aha, might be the solution for me, as I've just gotten through reading various reviews of the two PD straps (Slide and Slide Light) and still feeling a bit dubious about them. I was thinking that well, this would be an item which I would want to actually feel, handle and try at a camera store rather than just blindly ordering online. I also am really quite fond of my Op/Tech straps, too, and they have served me well through the years. One reason I'm thinking about camera straps at all now is that I'm starting to make my list of accessories that will be needed when I make my next big purchase. I never use the straps which come in the box with a new camera. Last time was easy when it came to straps, as I simply used an Op/Tech strap that had been removed from one of my Nikon bodies prior to making the Big Switch. I have another Op/Tech strap that isn't being used now but it is a bit older and much more worn.

Hm.......I think I will go ahead and get me a set of these anchor thingies, see how they work with the Op/Tech strap that's on the RX10 M4 (not about to risk my A7R IV until I spend some time using them!) and if they're as effective as they sound, in the long run they could well be the answer, with the best of both worlds.

Which op/tech have you got? Trust me I hang the z6 on the slide with the 200-500 lens and it has not failed me. I have had the slide the sling, the capture pro, and a few of the wrist straps for years. never had an issue other than I do not trust the baseplate connection option - not because of the anchor, just that I have had too many baseplates come undone.

Also, I sent a set of anchors to my friend in Dallas and he made me a leather strap (his hobby is making leather goods)
 

Clix Pix

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Gosh, I've had these Op/Tech straps for so long I don't remember what they are, but they are the neck strap style, not the sling (I did buy one sling for compact cameras which I do use on my RX100 M7 and it works great for it). I prefer the neck style to the sling style; At the urging of a friend I tried the larger sling style, too, and stuck it on the RX10 M4; while it can be convenient to hang the camera at my side, I really prefer holding the camera as I'm walking around anyway, not having it dangling. Half the time when I grab that camera to use it I'm in a rush and so use it as a neck strap anyway!

I flat-out refuse to use any sort of strap which requires screwing its connector into the tripod mount. To me that is just asking for trouble. I've heard tales of Black Rapid straps failing and people's expensive cameras and lenses landing on the ground..... Aside from that it strikes me that it would also be quite inconvenient to have to undo the strap's tripod connection when ready to use the tripod. I usually do not bother removing my camera straps when I'm putting the camera on the tripod, just let the thing dangle or sometimes just drape it over my neck.

Even though I do walk around clutching the camera anyway, I don't like wrist straps particularly, either -- I feel more secure with the camera on a strap which is connected on each side via the lugs or whatever they're called. The RX100 M7 is the exception -- I do use the sling style with it, and have the connection on one of the camera lugs and the original wrist strap on the other lug. That comes in handy for traveling as well as being able to remove the sling strap when in certain situations such as sitting in a theatre or at some event. When I am taking that compact camera out for a walk around the lake, which I have done recently, I can easily slip it into a pocket while strolling around, and yet it is still protected by the sling strap as well.

With my A7R IV I usually walk around with the 100-400mm, the 135mm, the 12-24mm and the 90mm lens -- my most frequently used and largest lenses. The 200-600 Bazooka is not a walk-around lens for me and so it spends it time on the tripod when I'm using it and usually it's primary journey is from the cabinet in the house out the doorway to the deck to be mounted on the waiting tripod and that's it.....

I really like the Op/Tech straps because of their gentle sponginess which takes some of the weight of the camera and lens off my neck, although it still can be somewhat heavy, especially with the 100-400mm, and also can be a bit uncomfortable on hot, sticky days.
 
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Hey, thank you for this!! Aha, might be the solution for me, as I've just gotten through reading various reviews of the two PD straps (Slide and Slide Light) and still feeling a bit dubious about them. I was thinking that well, this would be an item which I would want to actually feel, handle and try at a camera store rather than just blindly ordering online. I also am really quite fond of my Op/Tech straps, too, and they have served me well through the years. One reason I'm thinking about camera straps at all now is that I'm starting to make my list of accessories that will be needed when I make my next big purchase. I never use the straps which come in the box with a new camera. Last time was easy when it came to straps, as I simply used an Op/Tech strap that had been removed from one of my Nikon bodies prior to making the Big Switch. I have another Op/Tech strap that isn't being used now but it is a bit older and much more worn.

Hm.......I think I will go ahead and get me a set of these anchor thingies, see how they work with the Op/Tech strap that's on the RX10 M4 (not about to risk my A7R IV until I spend some time using them!) and if they're as effective as they sound, in the long run they could well be the answer, with the best of both worlds.
The PD straps are great as well. Much better than the OEM.
 

Clix Pix

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The PD straps are great as well. Much better than the OEM.

I can't even remember the last time I used an OEM strap -- many, many years ago, many many cameras ago.....probably back to my Minolta days! I don't like them because first of all they blatantly advertise the camera and brand and secondly, they're usually stiff and uncomfortable to hold in the hand, much less putting on one's neck!
 

mackmgg

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I can't even remember the last time I used an OEM strap -- many, many years ago, many many cameras ago.....probably back to my Minolta days! I don't like them because first of all they blatantly advertise the camera and brand and secondly, they're usually stiff and uncomfortable to hold in the hand, much less putting on one's neck!

I use my OEM straps! Just not on my cameras… I think my SLR’s strap is currently attached to my binoculars. Nikon binoculars with a Canon strap!

For cameras I’m not a huge fan of straps in general. I do have some PD anchors that I got free with one of their other products at some point, and I can definitely vouch that they’re great. I’ll sometimes hang the camera off a backpack strap, and then unclip it when I want to shoot. But really the only time I use a real strap is with my 150-600, attached directly to the tripod collar of the lens. Makes it way easier than trying to carry that beast any other way! I’ve got an old black rapid strap for that. But for anything else I either use a PD Capture or I’m just holding it.

And then of course the P&S (the whole reason for this thread in the first place!) goes directly in a pocket (either shorts pocket or a front pocket on a pack/running vest). If it didn’t fit in a pocket I wouldn’t use it! Weight-wise the RX100 really isn’t that much lighter than the EOS RP, but when it’s off it’s so compact you can just throw it in anything! Maybe eventually Canon will come out with an RF pancake lens and then I’ll be able to slide the RP into a pocket too. But until then it’s pocket for the RX100, Capture for anything bigger. And the Capture bounces too much for running!
 

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Do you use a P&S Camera and if so what model? When you go on vacation or take a trip somewhere would you rather use your P&S, or would you rather use your phone? A few still use P&S cameras these days, and perhaps the numbers are getting smaller each year but I still enjoy a decent P&S. You?

Not at the moment, but am looking for a new one as a complement.
 

jz0309

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I really like the Op/Tech straps because of their gentle sponginess which takes some of the weight of the camera and lens off my neck, although it still can be somewhat heavy, especially with the 100-400mm, and also can be a bit uncomfortable on hot, sticky days.
I second that, got my first when I got my 1st DSLR and the 100-400 lens, and got a new one when I got my most recent DSLR, WAY WAY more comfortable than the OEM ones. I carry the 100-400 around for hours with no discomfort whatsoever.
 

Clix Pix

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I agree about the comfort of the Op/Tech straps -- I go walking around the lake carrying my 100-400mm and using her and no problem until I've been out there for a while, and then the weight of the combo of that lens and the camera does start to become more noticeable. I have an Op/Tech strap on the 200-600mm, too, on the tripod collar......even just for carrying it around the house to the deck!

Looked on Amazon to see if I could order the anchor links there but apparently not, so I'll order directly from PD's site, then.... Heck, they're worth a try!
 
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scubachap

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Good thread and glad to see there's still some love being expressed for P&S cameras and particularly the RX's. I think the RX100 series are really brave cameras - after all who in their right mind would release a small sensor compact with a fixed lens but load it with the sort of quality features that means it ends up costing more than many DSLRs. Absolute madness! says the years of received camera company wisdom that differentiated product lines that shouldn't compete with each other (and yes, Canon I do mean you!)

Anyway, I currently have an RX100v along with an A7r and while even now the A7r never fails to impress (as long as the subject isn't moving too quickly ;) and I've thought ahead and stuck the right lens on etc) the thing about the RX is that I can take it anywhere cheaply and easily. You can pick up an underwater housing for under £400, there's no weight to it and you don't need an extra annoying bag with an extra lens in etc, also in use its inconspicuous as it looks like a phone etc etc. So, despite the limitations of the small sensor it's still my most used camera and I find the video functions are really, really impressive.

I've been thinking about a general camera upgrade for a while now but this range of cameras does make decisions about what makes a good (no, lets say a really useful) camera hard though. Do I get a full frame to replace the a7r but have to use the increasingly outdated RX100v (no stabilisation, not great WB etc) for a lot of stuff or go for for something in the middle (A7c) but then can't really afford a housing for underwater adventures or just get a new RX? Probably best to await the A7iv (this Sept) and perhaps a new RX100viii see how that shakes up Sony's range in terms of features / pricing before I think about spending any money.

Anyway, here's some stuff out of my RX100v...

 

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Good thread and glad to see there's still some love being expressed for P&S cameras and particularly the RX's. I think the RX100 series are really brave cameras - after all who in their right mind would release a small sensor compact with a fixed lens but load it with the sort of quality features that means it ends up costing more than many DSLRs. Absolute madness! says the years of received camera company wisdom that differentiated product lines that shouldn't compete with each other (and yes, Canon I do mean you!)

Anyway, I currently have an RX100v along with an A7r and while even now the A7r never fails to impress (as long as the subject isn't moving too quickly ;) and I've thought ahead and stuck the right lens on etc) the thing about the RX is that I can take it anywhere cheaply and easily. You can pick up an underwater housing for under £400, there's no weight to it and you don't need an extra annoying bag with an extra lens in etc, also in use its inconspicuous as it looks like a phone etc etc. So, despite the limitations of the small sensor it's still my most used camera and I find the video functions are really, really impressive.

I've been thinking about a general camera upgrade for a while now but this range of cameras does make decisions about what makes a good (no, lets say a really useful) camera hard though. Do I get a full frame to replace the a7r but have to use the increasingly outdated RX100v (no stabilisation, not great WB etc) for a lot of stuff or go for for something in the middle (A7c) but then can't really afford a housing for underwater adventures or just get a new RX? Probably best to await the A7iv (this Sept) and perhaps a new RX100viii see how that shakes up Sony's range in terms of features / pricing before I think about spending any money.

Anyway, here's some stuff out of my RX100v...

Great video! Are the photos it takes equally impressive?
 

scubachap

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Great video! Are the photos it takes equally impressive?
Thanks. It takes great pics - but, and this is a big but, it's still a small sensor. (Did I mention that before? ;)) I can obviously get better quality still pictures out of my dated A7r (42mb sensor) and I can push the files around a lot more. It's horses for courses as they say.

Dpreview have got a lot of reviews of the RX100s. Main review of the Vii here. (Lots of sample pictures etc - have a look through - I'm really happy with what it churns out but quality assessments are so subjective.) A thing to note is that the more recent one (the vii) has had a lens change to a less bright 2.8 albeit with a lot more reach (200mm?) which isn't so good for my uses than the lens on my V which makes things even more complicated! Agh!
 
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Clix Pix

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With regard to the discussion in this thread about Peak Design straps and such: I have now joined the PD Enthusiasts' Club! Recently bought one strap just to try it out and the next thing you know I was buying a couple more...... I like this system, it is very flexible, quite versatile, and it is so easy to quickly swap straps between camera bodies! I'm sold, and all my concerns have been allayed. This is a system which I think is going to really work out well for me.

For those interested, much more detail about my PD journey in this thread here:

carrying-cameras.2302305

To remain relevant in this thread in particular, the PD "Leash" and the PD Wrist Strap both work really, really nicely on my lovely little compact Sony RX100 VII.
 
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smirking

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I have fallen over/down/onto plenty of stuff and PD hasn't failed me yet. Really like their stuff in general but they are creeping into expensive territory.

I love the PD straps. I also have their everday Messenger Bag. I'm starting to detest that thing. There are some new bags out by Tenba that are real intriguing to me.
 
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