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TinaBelcher

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I only have one email address (google), which I use for everything including iCloud.
However, I've been wondering if that's not such a great idea. Do you guys have more emails for different tasks? Like: 1 for iCloud, 1 for professional use, 1 for signing up to your favorite apps/websites such as macrumors..
 
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TinaBelcher

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Personal and work is kept separate.
****@mac.com - personal
****@companyname.com - work

Also a few throw aways for registration to sites that will always generate spam.

I don't mean the email given by the company you work for. By professional, I mean a full name email that you add to your resume when applying for work or university.
 

mic j

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I don't mean the email given by the company you work for. By professional, I mean a full name email that you add to your resume when applying for work or university.
Yes. I use my Google email address for places that I feel might "dirty up" my email by generating spam and use my iCloud address for "clean" places (my friends, trusted sites I plan to use long term etc.). Not sure it is necessary but that is the way I have always done it. I used to use Yahoo and Google in combination. Yahoo got so spammy I deleted my account (I mean how many male enhancement products do you need, lol) and used Google for my personal business. Now, I figure Google will end up spammy and I will close it at some point. But so far, it has stayed pretty clean, probably because Google cares more about the quality of its service than Yahoo did?
 
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TinaBelcher

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Yes. I use my Google email address for places that I feel might "dirty up" my email by generating spam and use my iCloud address for "clean" places (my friends, trusted sites I plan to use long term etc.). Not sure it is necessary but that is the way I have always done it. I used to use Yahoo and Google in combination. Yahoo got so spammy I deleted my account (I mean how many male enhancement products do you need, lol) and used Google for my personal business. Now, I figure Google will end up spammy and I will close it at some point. But so far, it has stayed pretty clean, probably because Google cares more about the quality of its service than Yahoo did?
I've always wanted to make an @icloud.com email instead of using my gmail address for iCloud. However, I've read st least 100 reviews about how bad the iCloud email service is and that it trashes and deletes emails that it doesn't "trust".
Which one of your emails (iCloud and gmail) do you use for school/job application, shopping, subscription, YouTube, signup etc apps and so on..?
 

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I use it a lot actually.

***@icloud.com - personal / resume
***@gmail.com - Accounts and Memberships
***@osxhackers.net - Mac related /web services / support / etc.
***@yahoo.com - newsletters and useless email subscriptions
***@college.edu - Communication with Professors, Advisors, my leg, and other students
 

TinaBelcher

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I use it a lot actually.

***@icloud.com - personal / resume
***@gmail.com - Accounts and Memberships
***@osxhackers.net - Mac related /web services / support / etc.
***@yahoo.com - newsletters and useless email subscriptions
***@college.edu - Communication with Professors, Advisors, my leg, and other students
I love the way you set up the list. It really helps me calculating how I can use multiple emails.
Do you experience issues with iCloud? I've read terrible things about the service - trashing, deleting and blocking emails. Isn't it also easy to accidentally use the wrong email and what kind of email app do you use?
 

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OP, IMHO you should read up on one "service" offered by both Outlook.com and iCloud - true aliases. Unlike the kludge that Gmail offers, I find true aliases far more helpful for solving one of your posed issues.

I have an iCloud account with a username that I never, ever use or give out. The account has 3 aliases - ***apps@icloud.com, ***cl_crap@icloud.com, and ***(random letters/numbers)@me.com. An option for your situation could include firstname.lastname@icloud.com as one of the aliases.

I then use the iCloud web portal and assign rules to each address so they get routed in folders (folders are set up before the rules are created). The aliases are also color-coded so that they're easily identified by me.

I also keep in mind that, if one or more the aliases are compromised somehow, they're easily deleted while your core account name stays hidden. A limitation here with aliases is that not all apps recognize sending email out with iCloud aliases - I stick with the stock Mac/iOS Mail app for this bit; one can change the alias from the Mail app's pulldown menu.

https://support.apple.com/kb/ph2622?locale=en_US
 

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OP, IMHO you should read up on one "service" offered by both Outlook.com and iCloud - true aliases. Unlike the kludge that Gmail offers, I find true aliases far more helpful for solving one of your posed issues.
I agree with this. I use several aliases for different purposes, and rules to direct mails to these aliases into different folders. E.g. I always use an alias to sign up for online stores and similar, and this helps a lot to keep spam and newsletters out of my main inbox. I only give my main address to friends. As an exception, I also use it as my Apple ID to allow my friends to send iMessages to this address (although I think this is no longer necessary since you can now add other email addresses for messaging).
 
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I have a bunch - I have one that I almost never even check - use it when I'm buying something from some new place I really don't know.
 

mic j

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I've always wanted to make an @icloud.com email instead of using my gmail address for iCloud. However, I've read st least 100 reviews about how bad the iCloud email service is and that it trashes and deletes emails that it doesn't "trust".
Which one of your emails (iCloud and gmail) do you use for school/job application, shopping, subscription, YouTube, signup etc apps and so on..?
Google for that stuff. Have not had a problem with iCloud mail. There is also the option to establish multiple iCloud email addresses that you can use for various things.
 

mic j

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I love the way you set up the list. It really helps me calculating how I can use multiple emails.
Do you experience issues with iCloud? I've read terrible things about the service - trashing, deleting and blocking emails. Isn't it also easy to accidentally use the wrong email and what kind of email app do you use?
Yes, it is easy to screw up using the wrong email. I have done that multiple times. Have to really be disciplined to double check that you are using the appropriate one.
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OP, IMHO you should read up on one "service" offered by both Outlook.com and iCloud - true aliases. Unlike the kludge that Gmail offers, I find true aliases far more helpful for solving one of your posed issues.

I have an iCloud account with a username that I never, ever use or give out. The account has 3 aliases - ***apps@icloud.com, ***cl_crap@icloud.com, and ***(random letters/numbers)@me.com. An option for your situation could include firstname.lastname@icloud.com as one of the aliases.

I then use the iCloud web portal and assign rules to each address so they get routed in folders (folders are set up before the rules are created). The aliases are also color-coded so that they're easily identified by me.

I also keep in mind that, if one or more the aliases are compromised somehow, they're easily deleted while your core account name stays hidden. A limitation here with aliases is that not all apps recognize sending email out with iCloud aliases - I stick with the stock Mac/iOS Mail app for this bit; one can change the alias from the Mail app's pulldown menu.

https://support.apple.com/kb/ph2622?locale=en_US
I like this. Will make me rethink how I do my emails. Thanks.
 

TinaBelcher

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OP, IMHO you should read up on one "service" offered by both Outlook.com and iCloud - true aliases. Unlike the kludge that Gmail offers, I find true aliases far more helpful for solving one of your posed issues.

I have an iCloud account with a username that I never, ever use or give out. The account has 3 aliases - ***apps@icloud.com, ***cl_crap@icloud.com, and ***(random letters/numbers)@me.com. An option for your situation could include firstname.lastname@icloud.com as one of the aliases.

I then use the iCloud web portal and assign rules to each address so they get routed in folders (folders are set up before the rules are created). The aliases are also color-coded so that they're easily identified by me.

I also keep in mind that, if one or more the aliases are compromised somehow, they're easily deleted while your core account name stays hidden. A limitation here with aliases is that not all apps recognize sending email out with iCloud aliases - I stick with the stock Mac/iOS Mail app for this bit; one can change the alias from the Mail app's pulldown menu.

https://support.apple.com/kb/ph2622?locale=en_US

I'm a little confused about the part of the 3 accounts in one iCloud account.. how does that work?
 

Rigby

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I'm a little confused about the part of the 3 accounts in one iCloud account.. how does that work?
That's what @campguy meant by alias support. In iCloud and Outlook.com (and some other email services) you can create multiple email addresses for the same account. This is much more convenient that what Google does (where you have to create an entire new Google account if you need an additional address). iCloud supports up to 3 addresses per account, Outlook.com up to 10.
 
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DanielDD

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My iCloud email is linked to an alias of my personal email.
My personal email is a secret password-like @outlook.com address. All my registrations online and mail exchanges run through the various aliases of my personal email account.

I could not create the aliases (and corresponding rules) in iCloud due to the limit of 3 aliases imposed by Apple.

Mail is actually the one iCloud service I have turned off on my account.
 

campyguy

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I'm a little confused about the part of the 3 accounts in one iCloud account.. how does that work?
What Rigby wrote, supplemented by my input that you would create an account - with an email address of your choosing. That account supports up to an additional 3 aliases - not additional accounts - that are basically proxies that represent your main account. You keep your account, and can create/delete aliases as necessary with the only limitation being if that alias name cannot be the same as any other iCloud account name or alias name - IOW if someone created "clark.kent.is.superman@icloud.com" (either an account or an alias name) nobody else can claim that email address.

My only revision to Rigby's comment is that iCloud supports up to 4 simultaneous email addresses - the main account email address plus up to 3 additional alias email addresses.
 

TinaBelcher

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My iCloud email is linked to an alias of my personal email.
My personal email is a secret password-like @outlook.com address. All my registrations online and mail exchanges run through the various aliases of my personal email account.

I could not create the aliases (and corresponding rules) in iCloud due to the limit of 3 aliases imposed by Apple.

Mail is actually the one iCloud service I have turned off on my account.
I'm so confused. Some say I should go with iCloud and others say outlook.i also cannot use outlook app on my iPad Pro.

What Rigby wrote, supplemented by my input that you would create an account - with an email address of your choosing. That account supports up to an additional 3 aliases - not additional accounts - that are basically proxies that represent your main account. You keep your account, and can create/delete aliases as necessary with the only limitation being if that alias name cannot be the same as any other iCloud account name or alias name - IOW if someone created "clark.kent.is.superman@icloud.com" (either an account or an alias name) nobody else can claim that email address.

My only revision to Rigby's comment is that iCloud supports up to 4 simultaneous email addresses - the main account email address plus up to 3 additional alias email addresses.

Can I change or make a new email for my Apple ID and delete the gmail I used to create it with? And will it keep my purchased apps?
 
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DanielDD

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I'm so confused. Some say I should go with iCloud and others say outlook.i also cannot use outlook app on my iPad Pro.

For me Outlook is the best email service. You can use it on the mail app on your ipad Pro no problem. Just go to Settings > Mail > Add Account > choose Outlook.

Outlook gives you unlimited email space (which is nice), it has a much better web app compared to iCloud, alongside other advantages that may be relevant (for example, Skype and Microsoft Office integration).

My sweet setup is:
Outlook for Mail, Skype and Office.
iCloud for Contacts, Notes, Remainders, Calendar, iCloud Drive, Keychain, Safari and Photos.
 
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TinaBelcher

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For me Outlook is the best email service. You can use it on the mail app on your ipad Pro no problem. Just go to Settings > Mail > Add Account > choose Outlook.

Outlook gives you unlimited email space (which is nice), it has a much better web app compared to iCloud, alongside other advantages that may be relevant (for example, Skype and Microsoft Office integration).

My sweet setup is:
Outlook for Mail, Skype and Office.
iCloud for Contacts, Notes, Remainders, Calendar, iCloud Drive, Keychain, Safari and Photos.

So, you use 2 emails only? Which one do you use resumes, Facebook, YouTube, app sign up, online shopping...?
 
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DanielDD

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So, you use 2 emails only? Which one do you use resumes, Facebook, YouTube, app sign up, online shopping...?

That's the point. I use aliases in my Outlook account. Aliases are just addresses associated with your main email account. Note that you can use them to do everything (send and receive emails) but instead of relying on different accounts, you just have a central place with your email. You can create multiple inboxes within your email and set up some rules so that any email sent to a work alias (for instance) goes to a different inbox.
You can create up to 10 aliases in Outlook. That means you can set up a personal alias, a work related one, one dedicated to major services you use everyday (Facebook, YouTube), one that serves as a dump for those quick registrations in services you are not sure your gonna use, one for online shopping, and so forth.
 

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Can I change or make a new email for my Apple ID and delete the gmail I used to create it with? And will it keep my purchased apps?
This is a bit outside the scope of what I signed up for here! Not to get too far afield, and I'll admit it's a bit confusing, is that your apps/music are tied to an AppleID, which is an email address that can be changed - and, yes, you can change the email address of your AppleID to another email address (using your AppleID portal - it's your app/music-related email address and password).

What I have read is that using an iCloud account for an AppleID complicates this somewhat and it's much easier to deal with for non-iCloud email addresses. You'll need to seek additional counsel for this bit, sorry. I'm planning to do just this when I have time, and I'm looking to use a non-iCloud address for my AppleID in the future as well. Cheers!
 

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I'm so confused. Some say I should go with iCloud and others say outlook.i also cannot use outlook app on my iPad Pro.
You don't need to use the Outlook app. You can simply use the native iOS Mail app, which I would recommend anyway. Outlook.com is one of the few email services that supports push email in the native app.
Can I change or make a new email for my Apple ID and delete the gmail I used to create it with? And will it keep my purchased apps?
Yes. If you currently use your @gmail.com address as your Apple ID, you can easily change it to another non-iCloud address. You currently cannot switch from a non-iCloud to an iCloud address though.
 
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You don't need to use the Outlook app. You can simply use the native iOS Mail app, which I would recommend anyway. Outlook.com is one of the few email services that supports push email in the native app.
Yes. If you currently use your @gmail.com address as your Apple ID, you can easily change it to another non-iCloud address. You currently cannot switch from a non-iCloud to an iCloud address though.
Dammit. I really want to make an iCloud email for everything Apple related: app purchases, iOS file syncing.
 
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