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Do You Want Golden Gate, or Just Bugfixes?

What is your preference?

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I want Leopard UI with tabs and a dark mode toggle on top of the modern macOS structure on AS. It's not going to happen, but it's what I want.

That being said, I probably will dual boot macOS GG with Sequoia on my AS macs.
 
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Golden Gate looks good. From where I'm sitting, it looks like bug fixes, performance improvements, fixing a lot of the UI gaffes from Tahoe, and Siri AI. The latter I can ignore, and the other things are all great. If were just left with Tahoe, I doubt that they'd be fixing the UI.
 
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Golden Gate looks like what Apple should've released for Tahoe. They forced through a low quality, unpolished update that barely addressed any of the feedback they wanted because keeping to a yearly schedule was more important to them than quality. That's frustrating!

So I'm glad they actually listened because I was afraid they wouldn't even do that, but I also think this is what Tahoe should've been. I guess I'm a mixture of both options
 
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!!! said:
I dream of bug fixes for Mavericks. I want bug fixes for Mojave. I'll accept bug fixes for Sequoia.
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But actually precisely these three, please, and everyone’s happy: beautiful UI; cohesive, flat UI; boring UI but stable with features.
 
Luftkopf said:
Mojave! Mavericks!!! Man, you’d have to pay me a LOT to force me back to them!
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Man, I should stop posting when I'm so exhausted!

Despite my... emphatic reply, I think that while I would hate to go back to old interface styles, there should be a limited theming system available, since it is clearly impossible to please everyone! Let the user choose from different eras! It'd be a bit of work to set up, but that wouldn't be a big deal for Apple!
 
Luftkopf said:
Man, I should stop posting when I'm so exhausted!

Despite my... emphatic reply, I think that while I would hate to go back to old interface styles, there should be a limited theming system available, since it is clearly impossible to please everyone! Let the user choose from different eras! It'd be a bit of work to set up, but that wouldn't be a big deal for Apple!
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I’ve been wanting that for windows for a long time. Some of my clients want XP, some want Windows 7, some want to stay with Windows 10.
 
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Alameda said:
Everybody talks about the UI but I don't really notice. I just do my work.
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I'm the same but after moving to MacOS a couple of months ago after about 35 years of using a Windows PC I really do notice all of the bugs in macOS Tahoe.

Within the first couple of hours of unboxing my brand new first ever Mac (am M5 Pro MacBook Pro) I encountered more bugs in Tahoe than I did in maybe the last 2 or 3 years of Windows use and I still encounter new bugs now - mostly glitches in some built-in app where I need to quit and re-open the app to get it working properly again - but I never got that sort of stuff in Windows.

Apple really does have a lot of work to do to go from the current state of Tahoe to the image that Apple tries to project of "it just works". I really do think that the weak point in the whole Apple story right now is the quality of its higher-level application software. I love the hardware, I'm really impressed with the lower level kernel engineering based on how smoothly things run when they are not glitching out and how speedily things load (I suspect a lot of that is down to the quality of MacOS virtual memory management) but those higher-level user-facing apps really need some work.
 
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JulianL said:
I'm the same but after moving to MacOS a couple of months ago after about 35 years of using a Windows PC I really do notice all of the bugs in macOS Tahoe.

Within the first couple of hours of unboxing my brand new first ever Mac (am M5 Pro MacBook Pro) I encountered more bugs in Tahoe than I did in maybe the last 2 or 3 years of Windows use and I still encounter new bugs now - mostly glitches in some built-in app where I need to quit and re-open the app to get it working properly again - but I never got that sort of stuff in Windows.

Apple really does have a lot of work to do to go from the current state of Tahoe to the image that Apple tries to project of "it just works". I really do think that the weak point in the whole Apple story right now is the quality of its higher-level application software. I love the hardware, I'm really impressed with the lower level kernel engineering based on how smoothly things run when they are not glitching out and how speedily things load (I suspect a lot of that is down to the quality of MacOS virtual memory management) but those higher-level user-facing apps really need some work.
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Sounds like you’re in the “just give me bug fixes” camp.

Apple has been releasing a new OS-X every year. But once, when Jobs was still alive, they released Snow Leopard: No new features, just bug fixes. It was awesome. Many are saying that Golden Gate will be mostly bug fixes, which would be great.
 
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I want a new OS with Yosemite-Catalina era UI and 32bit translation capability, without wasting any storage on forced AI or universal architecture.

But I'll take GG over Sequoia and Tahoe because I'm tired of Big Sur's UI, and Tahoe clearly needs refinements that GG brings.
 
In the not-too-distant future, UI will be different for each user. UI is not something that needs to be the same anymore. You will not need a zillion menus and buried functions; you will never need to look for that setting you can never find.

UI will be what you need at the time, which could depend on your current project or work. If something is needed, you just ask.

Some say UI will completely go away...I don't think that's happening soon, but different UI for different workflows? Would be simple, and the worry of a user messing things up or not knowing where something is? Completely fixed with the ability to ask the AI. Siri, change my UI to Sequoia, that would be cool and doable.
 
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In the not-too-distant future, UI will be different for each user. UI is not something that needs to be the same anymore. You will not need a zillion menus and buried functions; you will never need to look for that setting you can never find.

UI will be what you need at the time, which could depend on your current project or work. If something is needed, you just ask.

Some say UI will completely go away...I don't think that's happening soon, but different UI for different workflows? Would be simple, and the worry of a user messing things up or not knowing where something is? Completely fixed with the ability to ask the AI. Siri, change my UI to Sequoia, that would be cool and doable.
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It may well be that our only interface will consist of speaking to the computer or typing and it generates the results.

But for visually presented data, I don’t know. For instance, we may have 10 or 50 options for how weather is displayed, but most people are generally bad at describing a user interface.
 
Alameda said:
It may well be that our only interface will consist of speaking to the computer or typing and it generates the results.

But for visually presented data, I don’t know. For instance, we may have 10 or 50 options for how weather is displayed, but most people are generally bad at describing a user interface.
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That sounds like a dystopian nightmare!
 
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Alameda said:
they released Snow Leopard: No new features, just bug fixes. It was awesome.
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Snow Leopard had plenty of new features and substantial revisions to existing features. Grand Central Dispatch, OpenCL, various security improvements, MS Exchange support, new APIs for Audio/Video, extended support for 64-bit architecture, the Mac App Store, webkit improvements, printing, etc, etc.

And it had a lot of bugs until .8.

It was... OK.

Several parts of Golden Gate have been rewritten in Swift (similar to the re-write of the Finder and the kernel in SL), which should bring performance improvements and better stability, in addition to functional improvements. You can't really separate out bug fixes from new features, because very often the way you fix the bug is to rewrite the whole thing.

Alameda said:
yet another yearly OS update?
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Apple engineers don't clear their desks in June and start from scratch: development is a continual process. The "release" is just for marketing. Many new features have been introduced in .3 updates (or whatever), half-way through the cycle.
 
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