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iPad Pro Does every iPad Pro update encounter so much controversy as the 2021 12.9?
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Allow me to sum up the typical series of events from trolls whenever a new iPad is released:
Step 1) New features that are announced - no matter how big they are - are immediately downplayed and labeled as "not a big deal." This is driven in large part by MacBook fanboys and the people who bought the iPad model from only a year ago.
Step 2) Lots of trolling about MacOS and insisting that the iPad can only be viable if it is allowed to run it. And anything short of that means that the iPad is worthless!
Step 3) The hardware is released...which leads to insistence that the new hardware is a "massive disappointment."
Step 4) At least one key item will be blown way out of proportion and used as "proof" that the new hardware is "trash" and "not worth it." For the 2021 models, the key item that was latched onto was the overblown blooming issue.
Step 5) Lots more of #2 above mixed in for additional good measure.
Step 6) The next round of potential improvements begins circulating in the rumor mill, which starts the process all over again.
The biggest thing was a lot of people (Myself included) though since the iPads had the M1 chip and 8GB or 16GB of ram they would be able to run software built for M1, I knew it wasn't going to run Mac OS but I thought for sure that any M1 app like Photoshop would be able to run on the iPads due to the same architect so that was kinda a let down. My biggest question is why did Apple give us all this ram when iOS only allows us to use 5GB, hopefully that limitation is removed in future versions of the iOS15 beta.
No controversy for me. I bought my 2021 iPad for what it is and not for expectations of what it could be. I’m super happy with mine. It’s works great with no issues.
I think others have engendered more controversy, but perhaps not so quickly.
The iPad 3 (underpowered and so quickly replaced) being perhaps the biggest.
'Bendgate' for the 2018 Pro models being another.
The 'White Spot' for the 2017 Pro / iPad Air 3 (I was a victim of this) is yet another.
In some ways the current controversy over the 2021 Pro is a continuation of the long running debate about what is an iPad 'for'.
There are things an iPad (Pro and non-Pro) is obviously good at, like media consumption, but it's always been tough to see how a 'Pro' iPad can be as good at 'Pro' things compared to a similarly priced laptop, when the OS and app ecosystem is more phone than computer. Apple has not yet answered this question well enough and people had hoped WWDC would be an opportunity for it to do so.
The iPad 3 (underpowered and so quickly replaced) being perhaps the biggest.
'Bendgate' for the 2018 Pro models being another.
The 'White Spot' for the 2017 Pro / iPad Air 3 (I was a victim of this) is yet another.
In some ways the current controversy over the 2021 Pro is a continuation of the long running debate about what is an iPad 'for'.
There are things an iPad (Pro and non-Pro) is obviously good at, like media consumption, but it's always been tough to see how a 'Pro' iPad can be as good at 'Pro' things compared to a similarly priced laptop, when the OS and app ecosystem is more phone than computer. Apple has not yet answered this question well enough and people had hoped WWDC would be an opportunity for it to do so.
I think the 2018 one was the most significant update. The power jump was not much different, 1TB with 6GB RAM was introduced (not such a big jump here, but still), complete redesign of both models (larger screen similar footprint, same scren smaller and lighter footprint), USB C, pencil 2. Those are in my opinion bigger changes than the jump in RAM, 5G and miniled for the 12.9, but priorities may vary...
Quoting just so I can give you an lol at "power of greyskull".That is the ever increasing power of projection. Apple does NOT say it's going to do something, but others insist based on their beliefs that Apple WILL do something. So it's Apple's fault for not meeting the exaggerated expectations of others, despite NEVER saying they would.
Apple now makes M1 iPads to go with their M1 Macs, so by the power of greyskull, that means something.
Seemingly NOT that it means Apple tries to consolidate their efforts / manufacturing so all of their products have a variation of the same thing in it for their convenience. It had to mean to some that the M1 meant something special for THEM. Apple does for Apple first, then gets around to spinning it as an act ( of courage) for others.
To be fair though I think people SHOULD pay attention to iPad displays at least the few who notice certain things. The new 12.9 is NOT defective though the blooming is part of the tech and the dark shadows around the tablet are apparently as well. So buyers should simply keep it mind and see if it bothers them before buying.
There have been fairly widespread issues with iPad displays in the past though that usually rise after regular usage most notably the infamous iPad Pro 10.5 White spot. Most recently I’ve seen and experienced myself the Air 4 light bleed. Worst of all it was on the 2nd gen 12.9 which had very noticeable bleeding.
There have been fairly widespread issues with iPad displays in the past though that usually rise after regular usage most notably the infamous iPad Pro 10.5 White spot. Most recently I’ve seen and experienced myself the Air 4 light bleed. Worst of all it was on the 2nd gen 12.9 which had very noticeable bleeding.
It's not clear to me if the display issues on new 12.9's occur on every one r if they are worse on others; e.g., this is the corner of my 2021 12.9 and I don't see dark shadows -
Hmm yeah that looks pretty good and normal. From what I’ve seen at the store personally it was uniform all around
Yeah, I've tried different screens, colors and brightness settings and can't see it anywhere.
The 2nd generation had bleeding and in addition to that it had touch response issues. Just after a year... my warranty was up. Both issues suddenly came up, I don't know if it had something to do with the newer 120hz tech... but I won't make the mistake and not get Apple Care with this latest model.
I do believe blooming and dark shadows are not defects, however... I'm not sure how well it will hold up after a year or so.
I believe it occurs when you have something that needs illuminating in the middle of the screen (e.g. a block of white text with a black background) so the display turns off the backlight zones around the very perimeter completely, but can’t do so for the area behind the text, so the edges of the screen look very dark/ black but the zone behind the text is more dark grey.
That doesn't appear to be the case over in the thread on this -
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/dark-edge-on-m1-ipad-pro.2297134/
And I've tried every convolution of displays to try and replicate it and can't.
Oh so it’s an actual manufacturing defect as opposed to a characteristic of the screen? I’ll have to look out for it. This sort of thing is why I prefer to sit out a few weeks before I put my order in
Oh so it’s an actual manufacturing defect as opposed to a characteristic of the screen? I’ll have to look out for it. This sort of thing is why I prefer to sit out a few weeks before I put my order in
Certainly has me wondering. I've watched for this ever since I got the 12.9 and just don't see it under any conditions. And if it's there and that hard to find, it isn't an issue for me.
Yes, to a subset of users on this forum every release of every product is the worst Apple release ever and proof the company is doomed to fail. Then the product sells wonderfully and the cycle of complaining moves onto the next release. I've learned it's good to ignore it when I'm trying to figure out if a product would be good for me or not
That is true as well. 2018 seemed more like outside changes, 2021 was more inside changes.
I noticed the biggest issue with an Apple device when I got the XS Max iPhone a couple of years ago. I thought I was losing my mind. Got the new phone and the connectivity was awful - cellular, LTE, wifi and Bluetooth were all terrible. Literally would be walking listening to my normal radio program and would lose connection every few minutes. The same with messaging and LTE. Calls would drop where previously I had service. Wifi wold only work in the house and lose connection as soon as I walked outside. And Bluetooth would lose connection frequently and I would have to constantly repair. I could literally swap the SIM back to my 6S Plus and have great connectivity again. I saw on this forum that others were having similar problems. Apple was no help so I returned the phone. Six months later, I tried again thinking maybe it was software issues and an update would help. The 2nd phone had the same issues, thus returned again. I hate to look for problems but also like to be aware if there are common issues among users. Helps to understand if it’s just my device or an overall hardware problem.Yes, to a subset of users on this forum every release of every product is the worst Apple release ever and proof the company is doomed to fail. Then the product sells wonderfully and the cycle of complaining moves onto the next release. I've learned it's good to ignore it when I'm trying to figure out if a product would be good for me or not
Yep. Well, I'm happy to have waited 4 years to get both (upgrading from 2017 iPP) at around the same price I would've spent in 2018 (2018 $1899 vs 2021 $1999).
No, the 2021 iPad Pro hardware announcements (rightly or wrongly) set a whole lot of expectations that came crashing down so it was a unique year. That said...... the argument that the iPad Pro hardware writes checks that iPadOS can't cash is NOT new and has come up for the last several generations of hardware releases.
I found the angry posts on here over M1-gate, 16GB-gate and pro-apps-gate to be sad/hilarious/pathetic. People need to get a life.
I used these forums to make some educated guess that based on my requirements will this combination of hardware/software will suites me or not, rather than wasting my money and time on a costly device which cannot fulfil my workflow.
Yes it fits in my requirements, so pro or no pro, M1 or no M1, 8gb or 16gb RAM, the choice is mine, the money is mine, the benefits are mine. BTW I am coming from original air that was like 7 years back, so everything is huge improvement for me and I tend to keep my devices for long time, so a feature here or there does not change my usage pattern.
Yes it fits in my requirements, so pro or no pro, M1 or no M1, 8gb or 16gb RAM, the choice is mine, the money is mine, the benefits are mine. BTW I am coming from original air that was like 7 years back, so everything is huge improvement for me and I tend to keep my devices for long time, so a feature here or there does not change my usage pattern.
I agree. Imagine people complaining that the iPad is actually too good.
I don't think so. Usually there's some big update every 2-3 years and that wasn't really the case this time around other than M1. I bought the 12.9" 2018 version and still fail to see how the 2021 is any better for 99% of use - my guess is this combined with expectations of "pro" software is the cause for all the controversy.