MP 7,1 Does it make sense to purchase a 7,1 Mac Pro today?

[ghostwind]

Lots of good info in the replies. Regarding a M1 Mac mini as a stop-gap, I don't think it will suffice - not enough ports, power maybe be good but not great (lots of unknowns), and I don't want to beta test the first gen ARM chips, as I need a stable, proven system to work with. I did think of that though.

Regarding buying what I need, of course. I always do that. With all my gear, I run it into the ground before I replace it - cameras, lenses, and yes computers. But, when I do buy something, it's also an investment, so I don't just look for "now" but think about 3-5 years down the road. I have to, as otherwise I'd be wasting money.

I think if I were to do that, the option would be to get the best iMac now, and resell in 1 year, but if there are new iMacs, it won't be worth too much. Hard to say. Also swapping systems so frequently can be a pain with the downtime, etc.

The Mac Pro for sure makes the most sense, I knew that in my first post, but I wanted some reassurance regarding its longevity. Of course nobody knows this, but it's good to have some feedback from other folks. 3-5 years is for me a good investment. I know when Apple did the last switch TO Intel, they did it pretty fast, faster than they had said, and then left the older Macs in the dust in terms of OS support, upgrades, etc.

I think the Mac Pro is probably the way I'll go, and upgrade the GPU 1-2 years down the road. While I'll be shooting with the C500MKII, I'll also have other cameras in H.265 as b-cams, so that codec becomes important, as transcoding to ProRes is not the best or most efficient way all the time. So for me, if I know a faster GPU with H265 support and other goodies will work come out and work in the Mac Pro in 1-2 years, I'll have some comfort there - MPX preferable, but I guess even just supported would be OK.

So yeah, this thread helped me. It's been an unusual year to say the least, and I consider myself lucky to have had the work to justify this. And bigger projects coming soon, so I need to be ready and prepared.

 

[vel0city]

I would suggest buying the new M1 Mini, seeing if it meets your requirements and if not return it. Apple have a very generous returns window right now. Watch these:

 

[OkiRun]

I would suggest buying the new M1 Mini, seeing if it meets your requirements and if not return it. Apple have a very generous returns window right now. Watch these:

Agree. The AS Mac Mini can run the OP's workflow with no issues what soever. It's not expandable, but at the current price - it will easily last him 3 years and he can then think about the AS Mac Pro which will be out by that time. Didn't sound like he needed bootcamp for windows.

 

[vel0city]

The current Mac Pro is a horrific waste of money right now, as well as being dull, unexciting tech with no future. I wouldn't even buy a refurb or used model for a crazy low price. It's clear Apple only released it to appease the likes of us who were begging for a new tower. Only 12 months later, buying a Mac Pro now would be the most careless and short term investment you could make. Get an M1, change your workflow if you have to to accommodate it, but in no circumstances waste time and money on those horribly outdated Xeons. Dead end.

 

[ghostwind]

Agree. The AS Mac Mini can run the OP's workflow with no issues what soever. It's not expandable, but at the current price - it will easily last him 3 years and he can then think about the AS Mac Pro which will be out by that time. Didn't sound like he needed bootcamp for windows.

The problem with the Mac mini, as I was saying above, is that it has 2 less thunderbolt ports than what I need. Not sure about the bus itself. But there may be a way around that. The larger problem is that I'm not using FCP, but Adobe Premiere, Photoshop, Illustrator, Audition, and a lot of other programs that don't have native M1 support yet, and it will be months before they do. So I will have to work in Big Sur (not stable or proven) with apps that run in emulation on the Mac mini, and as such may not even be any faster that way than my current MBP (would need to see benchmarks for those apps as I use them) and they may be buggy. I need a stable platform. I feel it will be 6 months before things get ported over and ironed out. By then, we'll be getting close to the next hardware announcements.

 

[bsbeamer]

Early signals that Adobe will heavily rely on Rosetta 2 for translation for video-based products for the next 2-3 years while evaluating an entire/complete rewrite for the video toolset for Mac. There is debate if they need to "pause" the toolset development on macOS and start from scratch, similar to the Premiere Pro rewrite on Mac many years ago.

Their initial company focus is on PS/LR/AI and the feedback has been mixed, at best. They were attempting straight iOS app ports at first, but that clearly is not working as hoped or intended. PS and Illustrator for iPad has some great benefits, but MANY of the desktop tools and workflows are not available. The initial M1-powered PS release is very limited, but what it can do is pretty optimized performance-wise.

 

[ghostwind]

Early signals that Adobe will heavily rely on Rosetta 2 for translation for video-based products for the next 2-3 years while evaluating an entire/complete rewrite for the video toolset for Mac. There is debate if they need to "pause" the toolset development on macOS and start from scratch, similar to the Premiere Pro rewrite on Mac many years ago.

Their initial company focus is on PS/LR/AI and the feedback has been mixed, at best. They were attempting straight iOS app ports at first, but that clearly is not working as hoped or intended. PS and Illustrator for iPad has some great benefits, but MANY of the desktop tools and workflows are not available. The initial M1-powered PS release is very limited, but what it can do is pretty optimized performance-wise.

Any source on this info? Didn't they just release a beta of PS? But interesting, and not surprising. And this speaks to my concern, or point, r.e. getting a Mac mini) that I made above. Will stuff run in Rosetta be faster? Without bugs/issues?

I think for someone using a FCP workflow, with H.265 codecs from cameras like the Canon R5 or Sony A7SIII, it's a simpler decision to make. In fact, these are all the tests I'm seeing done. For this use scenario, it's a no-brainer. For me, it's totally different.

 

[bsbeamer]

Acquired knowledge from video developer teams working on post-production workflow products. Search the Adobe forums for some public-facing info.

FCP is it's own animal. It is getting closer to becoming the FCP7 that made people switch. Will be interesting to see what happens with longterm development. If you're working mostly with ProRes then even MP7,1 with Afterburner might be a massive waste of money when looking at the early M1 results. Time will tell if that's entirely true.

I have not been able to personally test an M1-based machine and probably will not until late 2021, unless I decide to invest personally. Nothing I'm seeing in the first round of releases warrants that kind of spend at the moment for the software I'm using, but will continue to keep an eye on them.

If you're "stuck" on the Adobe platform, do not overlook a max'd out iMac with i9 for a 2-3 year stopgap to buy some time. If you can stay on Catalina for 3+ years, your options are much more flexible. I personally do not have luxury.

 

[ghostwind]

Acquired knowledge from video developer teams working on post-production workflow products. Search the Adobe forums for some public-facing info.

FCP is it's own animal. It is getting closer to becoming the FCP7 that made people switch. Will be interesting to see what happens with longterm development. If you're working mostly with ProRes then even MP7,1 with Afterburner might be a massive waste of money when looking at the early M1 results. Time will tell if that's entirely true.

I have not been able to personally test an M1-based machine and probably will not until late 2021, unless I decide to invest personally. Nothing I'm seeing in the first round of releases warrants that kind of spend at the moment for the software I'm using, but will continue to keep an eye on them.

If you're "stuck" on the Adobe platform, do not overlook a max'd out iMac with i9 for a 2-3 year stopgap to buy some time. If you can stay on Catalina for 3+ years, your options are much more flexible. I personally do not have luxury.

Yes, stuck on Adobe for the foreseeable future, due to folks I collaborate with on PC plaftorms, etc. I'm not sure I understand your comment above, "If you're working mostly with ProRes then even MP7,1 with Afterburner might be a massive waste of money when looking at the early M1 results. Time will tell if that's entirely true."

Are you saying for a ProRes workflow, using Adobe Premiere on Rosetta will still be faster or just about the same?

I'm not looking to stay on Catalina, time will tell. I'm for sure not ready to jump into Big Sur and all the issues I'm reading about it yet. Maybe in 6 months.

So your recommendation is an iMac over the Mac Pro? FWIW, my workflow is not all ProRes, some is, some isn't. A lot will be Canon RAW.

 

[ghostwind]

The current Mac Pro is a horrific waste of money right now, as well as being dull, unexciting tech with no future. I wouldn't even buy a refurb or used model for a crazy low price. It's clear Apple only released it to appease the likes of us who were begging for a new tower. Only 12 months later, buying a Mac Pro now would be the most careless and short term investment you could make. Get an M1, change your workflow if you have to to accommodate it, but in no circumstances waste time and money on those horribly outdated Xeons. Dead end.

This is what I would call and "extreme" point of view, and a rather narrow one to be frank. M1 shortcomings have already been pointed out, and no, I can't just up and change my workflow to FCP like YouTubers do, for the sake of making more videos for YouTube. Let's be a bit more practical.

I don't know what work you do and your Mac Pro situation, but no way as a professional can I just jump into buggy OS and software. Sorry.

 

[bsbeamer]

For a ProRes workflow: M1 machines are showing early signs of handling nearly as well as MP7,1 with Afterburner. Wait for real editors to test and with resolution breakdowns.

If you need compatibility with Windows/PC for the future, Intel-based machine is the way to go regardless. Worst case the machine becomes a dual boot or Windows only machine and you're not "out" of your investment.

Canon RAW can be tricky to properly assess "best" machines for. If you're using Canon RAW Development (standalone), those restrictions apply first. If you're trying to work natively, I've seen better performance with some i7/i9 processors vs. Xeon, likely due to Quicksync. Adobe's latest AMD enhancements might have helped further, especially for LUTs.

 

[kjohansen]

I have a 7,1 that I got in December, standard video card on the bare bones model.. I added the Pegasus and put in two 6 TB drives. I am a professional photographer and was using an 11 year old MP which could not run the latest software. I added an external boot drive and more memory, I have 96 GB of RAM. So far really liking the new MP

 

[Premal212]

It will only make sense if you're making money from it or allocate personal spending like a hobby.

This is absolutely spot on. You can probably work this out yourself.

Say a new MBP/iMac/Mac Pro comes out in 2/3 years time with the M1 chip which is super fast etc. etc. How much would you have made / saved from purchasing a Mac Pro today vs working on your current machine.

I mean if you're going to make 5/10k extra per year just by having a better machine its a no brainer, if it's closer to 2/4k per year, then you need to weigh up whether that is enough money to be making/saving compared to the suffering you're going to go through whilst trying to work on your current machine.

I would also highly recommend trying out a Mac Pro for a few weeks (I assume they can be returned like all other Apple devices) and see whether you can see 11k worth of performance increase.

I have a 2019 15" MBP too, and I tried out an iMac to see if it was worth the extra cash to help my After Effects workflow, it helped during render times, but that tends to be done overnight anyway. What I needed was more performance whilst working on projects, which the iMac just didn't give me. Returned the device and I'm waiting for Adobe to pull their finger out ...

 

[ghostwind]

This is absolutely spot on. You can probably work this out yourself.

Say a new MBP/iMac/Mac Pro comes out in 2/3 years time with the M1 chip which is super fast etc. etc. How much would you have made / saved from purchasing a Mac Pro today vs working on your current machine.

I mean if you're going to make 5/10k extra per year just by having a better machine its a no brainer, if it's closer to 2/4k per year, then you need to weigh up whether that is enough money to be making/saving compared to the suffering you're going to go through whilst trying to work on your current machine.

I would also highly recommend trying out a Mac Pro for a few weeks (I assume they can be returned like all other Apple devices) and see whether you can see 11k worth of performance increase.

I have a 2019 15" MBP too, and I tried out an iMac to see if it was worth the extra cash to help my After Effects workflow, it helped during render times, but that tends to be done overnight anyway. What I needed was more performance whilst working on projects, which the iMac just didn't give me. Returned the device and I'm waiting for Adobe to pull their finger out ...

It's not going to get me more work, but it will make my life a lot easier. Like I said, for my last project, I had to create a 10min corporate promo video from 5 hours of footage (many talking heads, a lot of b-roll, etc.). And that was taxing and only in 1080p ProRes 422. The exporting time is not as big a deal to me as is real-time playback, rendering, editing, etc. when applying LUTS, etc. My 2019 15" maxed out MBP was getting hot, fans spinning all day, and just slow as heck many times. I got through it, but it wasn't fun and I spent a lot of time. Of course time is money, but it's not as easy to quantify.

I feel the Mac mini will not buy me too much, and dealing now with Big Sur and Adobe in Rosetta can be problematic. An iMac should be a bit faster, and the Mac Pro should fly. I'll wait some more to see what's happening. I want to some more in-depth reviews. All I've seen so far is people using FCP and playing back H265 footage from the Canon R5 or Sony A7SIII and drooling at that. Or some synthetic benchmarks. I want to see a pro using it for hours at a time, with color correction, LUTS, etc. and then giving their opinion.

 

[yurc]

I am recently bought one, 16 core model, Vega Duo, stock RAM, PCIe blades NVMe storage.

Yes M1 mini make my tower dull.

But my gears such audio interface, Wacom graphics display / tablet, and some of tangent panel aren't ready for M1. Even worse, I am still have old FireWire one.

I am buying Mac Pro because of compatibility of my gear was assured (and Solidworks too)
My software workflow and mainly, my gear dictate what hardware I am purchase for.

If you had no relying bunch peripheral connected to your Mac, M1 mini is good to go. But looking from your workflow, I think Mac Pro are more suited for you.

Those M1 are suitable machine for people works without additional gear attached to their machine, just need standard input like keyboard and mouse, relying pure speed of M1.

Another merit of 7,1 for me because of unique 32GB VRAM GPU, which is still not available widely on off shelf GPU version, only some Radeon Pro available.

Additionally, I am still had 5,1 as backup too. Looking from 5,1 history, it can really have long lifespan with various hardware upgrades, 7,1 should be same.

 

[MarkC426]

This is absolutely spot on. You can probably work this out yourself.

Say a new MBP/iMac/Mac Pro comes out in 2/3 years time with the M1 chip which is super fast etc. etc. How much would you have made / saved from purchasing a Mac Pro today vs working on your current machine.

I mean if you're going to make 5/10k extra per year just by having a better machine its a no brainer, if it's closer to 2/4k per year, then you need to weigh up whether that is enough money to be making/saving compared to the suffering you're going to go through whilst trying to work on your current machine.

I would also highly recommend trying out a Mac Pro for a few weeks (I assume they can be returned like all other Apple devices) and see whether you can see 11k worth of performance increase.

I have a 2019 15" MBP too, and I tried out an iMac to see if it was worth the extra cash to help my After Effects workflow, it helped during render times, but that tends to be done overnight anyway. What I needed was more performance whilst working on projects, which the iMac just didn't give me. Returned the device and I'm waiting for Adobe to pull their finger out ...

There is also the consideration of ‘intel’ software many people are using, which may not be converted to AS. In my case I would be happier with a 7.1 which can be upgraded vastly, and would last me a good 10 years (even if OS support is dropped, it is still a computer).

 

[bsbeamer]

I want to see a pro using it for hours at a time, with color correction, LUTS, etc. and then giving their opinion.

Since stay at home orders in March, I've personally largely been on iMac19,1 with i9, Vega & 128GB RAM as primary machine. Was lucky to get one of the last in-stock during a period of time they were flying off shelves. Have an eGPU when the need arises. This is/was a stopgap pandemic purchase to get by and still be capable of working. Likely on this until at least March/April 2021. Given the M1/ARM uncertain future, likely 2022/2023 or longer.

Straight up, outfitting multiple MP7,1's for home office configuration deployments was not possible. Even lease terms to send to remote offices was a challenge, especially with insurance. I had already been testing similar iMac configs in client offices pre-pandemic (mid/late 2019) and we really found them to be solid machines for the majority of workflows with a 2-3 year expectancy. Beyond that, everyone said they'd re-evaluate. They're not disposable, but that's how they were budgeted.

Some picked up Intel Mini for lighter work, but personally do not find them to meet the needs of deliverable video or real day to day work. (Actually think MBP16,1 is better and like MBP 15" has limitations.)

My day to day is Adobe software, almost entirely video and graphics (PR, AE, AU, ME, PS, AI). Mixed footage, mixed codecs, mixed resolutions. Lately, mostly shot by people who don't know the difference between AWB and Kelvin temperature. Even having to rotoscope a lot of that garbage.

I have not been disappointed with performance, aside from usual OS or Adobe quirks. Likely will not even see an MP7,1 in person again until late 2021 or 2022. Already talk of several offices shutting completely until 2023 and keeping everyone remote so they save on rent/lease to keep full-time staff employed.

 

[goMac]

Acquired knowledge from video developer teams working on post-production workflow products. Search the Adobe forums for some public-facing info.

FCP is it's own animal. It is getting closer to becoming the FCP7 that made people switch. Will be interesting to see what happens with longterm development. If you're working mostly with ProRes then even MP7,1 with Afterburner might be a massive waste of money when looking at the early M1 results. Time will tell if that's entirely true.

I have not been able to personally test an M1-based machine and probably will not until late 2021, unless I decide to invest personally. Nothing I'm seeing in the first round of releases warrants that kind of spend at the moment for the software I'm using, but will continue to keep an eye on them.

If you're "stuck" on the Adobe platform, do not overlook a max'd out iMac with i9 for a 2-3 year stopgap to buy some time. If you can stay on Catalina for 3+ years, your options are much more flexible. I personally do not have luxury.

The Premiere engine was already ported to ARM from what I've heard. Premiere is a gigantic mess, but from what I'm hearing I'd still assume we see Apple Silicon native Premiere early neat year.

Still, if you have important work to be doing in the next six months, Premiere on Rosetta might be less fun. And if you're using a lot of plugins, those might have their own release schedule for Apple Silicon.

 

[SecuritySteve]

It's not going to get me more work, but it will make my life a lot easier. Like I said, for my last project, I had to create a 10min corporate promo video from 5 hours of footage (many talking heads, a lot of b-roll, etc.). And that was taxing and only in 1080p ProRes 422. The exporting time is not as big a deal to me as is real-time playback, rendering, editing, etc. when applying LUTS, etc. My 2019 15" maxed out MBP was getting hot, fans spinning all day, and just slow as heck many times. I got through it, but it wasn't fun and I spent a lot of time. Of course time is money, but it's not as easy to quantify.

I feel the Mac mini will not buy me too much, and dealing now with Big Sur and Adobe in Rosetta can be problematic. An iMac should be a bit faster, and the Mac Pro should fly. I'll wait some more to see what's happening. I want to some more in-depth reviews. All I've seen so far is people using FCP and playing back H265 footage from the Canon R5 or Sony A7SIII and drooling at that. Or some synthetic benchmarks. I want to see a pro using it for hours at a time, with color correction, LUTS, etc. and then giving their opinion.

So I bought a Mac Pro about two or three weeks ago, and have been pretty happy with the purchase. I'm running a non-Apple graphics card flawlessly - no sleep issues or noise. As long as macOS itself supports new AMD cards (it looks like support for the upcoming generation and the next one after that is the bare minimum) you needn't worry about how those will work with your Mac Pro.

For me, the switch was motivated because of ASi's shortcomings in virtualization and dual boot capabilities. If those hurdles aren't solved by the time the ASi Mac Pro comes out (or if ever) then this was the last Mac Pro capable to do my workflow for the foreseeable future.

Now, in your use case you aren't hampered by the ASi transition software wise. That said, I think an M1 might be a little too limited for a photographer because (and correct me if I am wrong) your video RAM usage can go way higher than 16GB, and that is why you are considering the Vega II option. If you consider that the OS is using the "unified memory" for regular application RAM, and Video RAM simultaneously you end up with much less video RAM. Given that limitation alone, I would steer you towards the Mac Pro simply because you know what you're getting. There is no magic crystal ball that says that the iMac next year will be significantly better than the M1. Imagine if they released the iMac with only an overclocked M1X chip, that did not significantly increase the memory constraints of the chip - you would have waited for nothing.

Time is money in businesses like ours - don't save money on machines that make you money. If I were you, I would buy the pro.

 

[bsbeamer]

The Premiere engine was already ported to ARM from what I've heard. Premiere is a gigantic mess, but from what I'm hearing I'd still assume we see Apple Silicon native Premiere early neat year.

Still, if you have important work to be doing in the next six months, Premiere on Rosetta might be less fun. And if you're using a lot of plugins, those might have their own release schedule for Apple Silicon.

That initial port resulted in Premiere Rush, which is far from the feature set of Premiere Pro...

 

[Premal212]

It's not going to get me more work, but it will make my life a lot easier. Like I said, for my last project, I had to create a 10min corporate promo video from 5 hours of footage (many talking heads, a lot of b-roll, etc.). And that was taxing and only in 1080p ProRes 422. The exporting time is not as big a deal to me as is real-time playback, rendering, editing, etc. when applying LUTS, etc. My 2019 15" maxed out MBP was getting hot, fans spinning all day, and just slow as heck many times. I got through it, but it wasn't fun and I spent a lot of time. Of course time is money, but it's not as easy to quantify.

I feel the Mac mini will not buy me too much, and dealing now with Big Sur and Adobe in Rosetta can be problematic. An iMac should be a bit faster, and the Mac Pro should fly. I'll wait some more to see what's happening. I want to some more in-depth reviews. All I've seen so far is people using FCP and playing back H265 footage from the Canon R5 or Sony A7SIII and drooling at that. Or some synthetic benchmarks. I want to see a pro using it for hours at a time, with color correction, LUTS, etc. and then giving their opinion.

I hear you buddy, and I agree sometimes it's not really quantifiable.

A wise man once told me to only spend money on things that would remove unhappiness from your life as opposed to spending money on things you believe will make you happy.

Yeah realtime playback is the key, rendering can be done overnight. And agreed, I don't think the Mac Mini will buy you much, every product from there onwards will give you some performance increases. As you well know, there's a big difference between just playing back HD/UHD ProRes and adding LUTs or trying to key out poorly lit footage. This stuff I think is in the realms of professional requirements as opposed to just sequencing a number of clips together for a YouTube vlog, I believe you're in the former and will need the Mac Pro for that.

The last thing you want is to drop a couple of grand for a product that gives you just a 10pc increase in performance.

The other option is to lease the Mac Pro, leasing doesn't always make financial sense, but might be worth looking at, especially if you can offset again your profits etc.

If you have liquid funds and Apple accepts returns on the Mac Pro, I would just grab one and see what the situation is. Who knows, you might figure out that you need a higher single clock core (god damn Adobe) or whatever your requirements demand.

I really can't see Apple upgrading the Mac Pro until a lot of major software supports M1. Apple knows what programmes are being used by folks who buy the Mac Pro, and if they don't support M1 yet, there's no point for us Professionals or even Consumers to purchase one. A lot of prosumers are holding out for Adobe to port over, I'm sure the pros are waiting too.

 

[OkiRun]

It's not going to get me more work, but it will make my life a lot easier. Like I said, for my last project, I had to create a 10min corporate promo video from 5 hours of footage (many talking heads, a lot of b-roll, etc.). And that was taxing and only in 1080p ProRes 422. The exporting time is not as big a deal to me as is real-time playback, rendering, editing, etc. when applying LUTS, etc. My 2019 15" maxed out MBP was getting hot, fans spinning all day, and just slow as heck many times. I got through it, but it wasn't fun and I spent a lot of time. Of course time is money, but it's not as easy to quantify.

I feel the Mac mini will not buy me too much, and dealing now with Big Sur and Adobe in Rosetta can be problematic. An iMac should be a bit faster, and the Mac Pro should fly. I'll wait some more to see what's happening. I want to some more in-depth reviews. All I've seen so far is people using FCP and playing back H265 footage from the Canon R5 or Sony A7SIII and drooling at that. Or some synthetic benchmarks. I want to see a pro using it for hours at a time, with color correction, LUTS, etc. and then giving their opinion.

As the owner of a 7,1 in use a production house, I can say there has not been the video or audio task the computer hasn't handled flawlessly. I am happy that the choice wasn't made to replace an iMac with another iMac. We have FCPX, Adobe CC, and Resolve on the computer and all work well; at the same time.

It was sounding like the tone that you were beginning the move to increasing of workflow/production and maybe not at level of creating final 2 hour motion picture or numerous numbers of commercials. Meaning, the thought of initial Mac Mini was cheaper way to get company moving fast and making money and future purchase options being left open.

Many best thoughts for success.

 

[goMac]

That initial port resulted in Premiere Rush, which is far from the feature set of Premiere Pro...

But it is the Premiere engine.

ARM Macs have the exact same UI frameworks as Intel Macs, so the more complex UI on the Mac won't be a holdup for porting if the engine is already done. There isn't anything in Premiere that would seem to be time consuming to port. Metal, OpenGL, OpenCL, it's all there and the same on Apple Silicon.

 

[ghostwind]

As the owner of a 7,1 in use a production house, I can say there has not been the video or audio task the computer hasn't handled flawlessly. I am happy that the choice wasn't made to replace an iMac with another iMac. We have FCPX, Adobe CC, and Resolve on the computer and all work well; at the same time.

It was sounding like the tone that you were beginning the move to increasing of workflow/production and maybe not at level of creating final 2 hour motion picture or numerous numbers of commercials. Meaning, the thought of initial Mac Mini was cheaper way to get company moving fast and making money and future purchase options being left open.

Many best thoughts for success.

Yeah, if anything I'll be doing more and more intense work. I will be also filming and editing a full-length documentary feature as well starting next month, so yeah, Mac Pro just makes sense.

One thing I'm curious about is the Vega II. Right now it's the best MPX option, but it lacks DSC so the XDR inputs will be USB 2.0 speed. I'm wondering if getting a new 6800XT or 6900XT would be a better bet, even if not MPX. I read a bit about those that used the 5700XT non-MPX, and having issues with fans, sleep, etc.

 

[IA64]

Yeah, if anything I'll be doing more and more intense work. I will be also filming and editing a full-length documentary feature as well starting next month, so yeah, Mac Pro just makes sense.

One thing I'm curious about is the Vega II. Right now it's the best MPX option, but it lacks DSC so the XDR inputs will be USB 2.0 speed. I'm wondering if getting a new 6800XT or 6900XT would be a better bet, even if not MPX. I read a bit about those that used the 5700XT non-MPX, and having issues with fans, sleep, etc.

Someone confirmed that even with W5700, you'll get USB2.0 from the XDR.