Dumped 12.9 IPP for 10.5 and loving it

[ssledoux]

I wouldn’t be opposed to the new 9.7, but I can’t imagine not having the keyboard.

I am right there with you on the ease of typing on this thing! I have never typed so fast in my life! I really need to go try the ASK on the 10.5 at my Apple store and see what I think of it. Heck, I need to really check out the 10.5 pad for that matter.

Everything just seems so small compared to my 12.9 pro - hard to imagine giving it up, but I really think I’d get my money’s worth out of something I felt was more comfortable to use.

 

[sracer]

I wouldn’t be opposed to the new 9.7, but I can’t imagine not having the keyboard.

I am right there with you on the ease of typing on this thing! I have never typed so fast in my life! I really need to go try the ASK on the 10.5 at my Apple store and see what I think of it. Heck, I need to really check out the 10.5 pad for that matter.

Everything just seems so small compared to my 12.9 pro - hard to imagine giving it up, but I really think I’d get my money’s worth out of something I felt was more comfortable to use.

The 10.5 ASK is (obviously) more cramped than the 12.9 ASK... to the point, for me, that it isn't a viable alternative. I'm hoping that the increased interest in the 9.7 form factor (as a result of the low price and support for Apple Pencil) will spark accessory manufacturers to produce similar keyboards for it.

 

[ssledoux]

Yeah I know it is, but isn’t it somewhat larger than the ASK for the 9.7? I’m thinking maybe that would be an okay compromise. I do have small hands, so I’d like to think I could deal with it. ;-p

 

[kp98077]

For sure in that case there is a difference in mobility, but if anyone is only referring to those use cases when they say “carry everywhere”, then they need to know that is very confusing because “everywhere” strongly implies everywhere.



Sure, I understand purses work great for that (which is why I specifically excluded them). I’m asking about the people who don’t carry purses (most men and some women) who either have nothing or full-on bags like satchels, backpacks, etc.—of those people who say they carry their iPad everywhere, those are my questions to them. Unless everyone who has said that indeed carries a purse... I guess that’s a possibility.

Lol. Toooooo much! I have both, 12.9 and 10.5 pro, and I literally carry the 10.5 everywhere, I am sitting with my kids at the skate park as we speak, couldn’t really do that with my 12.9 (guess you could) but for me, I literally GRAB and GO. I work in a hospital clinical setting either work greater, again, preference to the 10.5, it is simply a work horse. At home, 12.9, beautiful. I take conf. Calls from the car all the time with my 10.5, hard to do with the 12.9 (possible yeah... fun... no)... so point is, most will agree the 10.5 is way more portable that is a fact...

 

[Booji]

The 10.5 size is the perfect for overall mobility. The 12.9 and the Mini were more of a brand extension, or even an experiment, from the core size. The 10.5 footprint is, and will remain, the core of mobile computing.

 

[subjonas]

Lol. Toooooo much! I have both, 12.9 and 10.5 pro, and I literally carry the 10.5 everywhere, I am sitting with my kids at the skate park as we speak, couldn’t really do that with my 12.9 (guess you could) but for me, I literally GRAB and GO. I work in a hospital clinical setting either work greater, again, preference to the 10.5, it is simply a work horse. At home, 12.9, beautiful. I take conf. Calls from the car all the time with my 10.5, hard to do with the 12.9 (possible yeah... fun... no)... so point is, most will agree the 10.5 is way more portable that is a fact...

I’m not arguing it’s not more portable. Of course it is. I’m just astonished that people would want to carry anything in their hand all the time.
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The 10.5 size is the perfect for overall mobility. The 12.9 and the Mini were more of a brand extension, or even an experiment, from the core size. The 10.5 footprint is, and will remain, the core of mobile computing.

To me, 9.7/10.5 is the compromise size between productivity and consumption. If you need/want one device to do both then it’s great. Personally, I prefer dedicated optimal devices, 12.9 for productivity and the mini for consumption (mostly reading, I prefer watching videos longer than 20 minutes on a tv).

 

[pdaholic]

I’m going the opposite of the OP; had a 10.5 since release, and I’ve always wished for more screen space. Finally decided to bite the bullet and order a 12.9, which will be here on Thursday along with ASK. The few times I’ve played with the 12.9 at the Apple Store, I didn’t think it was that much larger, which is why I have held off. I’m excited to try it out.

 

[strawberryshortcake]

For those indivduals that actually buy more than one ipad in a single year for different uses sure do have a lot of disposable income. I’m surprised no one says I’ve got an ipad for each room of the house including one for the restroom, and one for the shower area, and one for the treehouse. Wouldn’t it be better to narrow down to just one versatile ipad?

The 10.5 size is the perfect for overall mobility. The 12.9 and the Mini were more of a brand extension, or even an experiment, from the core size. The 10.5 footprint is, and will remain, the core of mobile computing.

Are these statements of facts or opinions? Because they sure read like facts. Using those two words "extension" and "experiment" to describe both the mini and 12.9 seems ....... I don’t even know what to make of those statements. You may have a preference for the 10.5 but to make those statements just seems .....

The mini came out in late 2012. The 12.9 1st gen introduced in late 2015. The 1st gen ipad in 2010.

Did it really need apple almost 8 years to decide (in your words) "The 10.5 footprint is, and will remain, the core of mobile computing."??? If the 10.5 becomes the standard, the 12.9 2017 will probably be my last ipad ever.

The 12.9 is the smallest sized tablet that finally feels comfortable to work with in both stationary and mobile situations. The 4th gen was my 1st — that’s a span of almost 6 years. The 12.9 is my second. The 4th always felt small. Almost the same real estate (physcial overall size) as the 9.7 and almost the 10.5 (sort of).

 

[maflynn]

I've owned both, I went with the 10.5, it looked dimunitive against teh 12.9 and I had a serious case of the grass is greener on the other side. I returned that and then found for my needs, and usages, to be unwiedly large. I swalloed my pride and returned that and went back to the 10.5. I've been very happy since.

 

[DoubleFlyaway]

For those indivduals that actually buy more than one ipad in a single year for different uses sure do have a lot of disposable income. I’m surprised no one says I’ve got an ipad for each room of the house including one for the restroom, and one for the shower area, and one for the treehouse. Wouldn’t it be better to narrow down to just one versatile ipad?





Are these statements of facts or opinions? Because they sure read like facts. Using those two words "extension" and "experiment" to describe both the mini and 12.9 seems ....... I don’t even know what to make of those statements. You may have a preference for the 10.5 but to make those statements just seems .....

The mini came out in late 2012. The 12.9 1st gen introduced in late 2015. The 1st gen ipad in 2010.

Did it really need apple almost 8 years to decide (in your words) "The 10.5 footprint is, and will remain, the core of mobile computing."??? If the 10.5 becomes the standard, the 12.9 2017 will probably be my last ipad ever.

The 12.9 is the smallest sized tablet that finally feels comfortable to work with in both stationary and mobile situations. The 4th gen was my 1st — that’s a span of almost 6 years. The 12.9 is my second. The 4th always felt small. Almost the same real estate (physcial overall size) as the 9.7 and almost the 10.5 (sort of).

You don't have to buy more than one in a year to have two for different uses? I got my 12.9 and found that I still liked using my Air 2 in conjunction with it. The thing I ended up selling instead was my MBP.
[doublepost=1522851049][/doublepost]But when the new 10.5 comes out, I'd like to upgrade the Air 2!

 

[Thares]

I had an Air 2, bought the 12“ and 10.5“, returned the 10.5“ as it is literally the same size as the 9.7“ ipads. And now, due to a changed use case I sold my 12.9“ and bought a refurbished Air 2 (due to the better screen and thinness compared to the regular ipad).

In my experience, the 12“ iPad is great for use at home and occasional but long traveling (which was my use case! Or if it is your only device. When my use case changed (commuting shorter distances every day) I swapped the big 12 iPad for the lighter 9.7 Air 2. at first, the size difference was really awkward and I had some type of loss aversion. But after a few days or a week, the Air 2 size seems totally fine.

 

[rui no onna]

For those indivduals that actually buy more than one ipad in a single year for different uses sure do have a lot of disposable income.

Not necessarily. For the cost of one 2nd gen Pro 12.9 512GB, one can buy a refurb 1st gen Pro 12.9 128GB and 2017 iPad or Air 2 128GB and still have change leftover.

Besides, as DoubleFlyaway mentioned, you don't need to buy both iPads in the same year.

 

[sracer]

For those indivduals that actually buy more than one ipad in a single year for different uses sure do have a lot of disposable income. I’m surprised no one says I’ve got an ipad for each room of the house including one for the restroom, and one for the shower area, and one for the treehouse. Wouldn’t it be better to narrow down to just one versatile ipad?

While it DOES require SOME disposable income, by making wise choices, it doesn't require THAT much.

Over the years, I've learned how to maximize the gadget purchases and minimize the cost. I usually end up paying far less and getting far more than most others.

Here are my guidelines: (others will have reasons why this doesn't work for them)

• Always buy new and never buy at full MSRP (I saved $175 on my 12.9 Pro, $100 on my Mini 4).
• Never buy AppleCare.
• Never "over" buy. Apple's up-charges for additional storage (and RAM for notebooks) are obscene IMO. Unless I know that I'm going to need more storage on a specific device, I'll go with the minimum. (I knew I'd need more for the 12.9 so I went with 128GB, but on the Mini 4 I went with 32GB)
• Minimize the amount of Apple (and boutique) accessories purchased. For the Apple Pencil and Smart Keyboard, there is no choice. But for cases, there are many great high quality 3rd party cases for $15 or less. Sadly, since the iPad Air 1, Apple is the only one who makes smart covers.
• Don't fall for hyperbole. While there are technical merits to the added and enhanced features of each subsequent iPad model, not all of these are worth the money in the practical sense. Some may view lack of ProMotion and 120Mhz refresh as deal-breakers, for me, they're... meh, I'll take it at no extra cost but not worth paying more.

 

[darkarn]

Understand what you need and what is on the market, then buy it once and buy it well!

 

[spiderman0616]

I wouldn’t be opposed to the new 9.7, but I can’t imagine not having the keyboard.

I am right there with you on the ease of typing on this thing! I have never typed so fast in my life! I really need to go try the ASK on the 10.5 at my Apple store and see what I think of it. Heck, I need to really check out the 10.5 pad for that matter.

Everything just seems so small compared to my 12.9 pro - hard to imagine giving it up, but I really think I’d get my money’s worth out of something I felt was more comfortable to use.

For me, the 9.7" Smart Keyboard was borderline useless due to it being too cramped to effectively type on. The 10.5" Smart Keyboard made a HUGE difference for me in that regard. Not quite as spread out as my Macbook Air or Magic Keyboard, but darn close, and good enough where I can type just as fast as on anything else. Same goes for the on-screen software keyboard. Never bothered with it on the 9.7" models. Use it all the time on the 10.5".

 

[subjonas]

For those indivduals that actually buy more than one ipad in a single year for different uses sure do have a lot of disposable income. I’m surprised no one says I’ve got an ipad for each room of the house including one for the restroom, and one for the shower area, and one for the treehouse. Wouldn’t it be better to narrow down to just one versatile ipad?

Why have a commuter car and a big pickup truck? Because they serve functions at completely opposite ends of the scale. Going for one device in the middle will compromise both functions. The more critical those opposite functions are to you, the less it makes sense to compromise with one device. Of course as with all investments, finances are a factor to consider.

For me, I need the large 12.9 ipp for work related tasks. I don’t want to compromise on work so I’m not willing to go smaller. And I like to do a lot of reading so for me it’s worth having the small, comfortable iPad mini in addition. If I had to read on a bigger device, I would end up not reading nearly as much (I tried that), so I’m not willing to go bigger.

Not to mention the mini was only $150 after a discount and trade in. And on top of that I don't upgrade my devices until I absolutely have to. I imagine I’ll have these iPads for another 4 or 5 years probably. Compare that to people who upgrade their single flagship iPad every one or two years at full price minus a trade in maybe—I’ll have spent much less.

It doesn’t make sense for everyone to have two different iPads, but for some it does.

 

[DoubleFlyaway]

Used to have a laptop and an ipad. Now I have a big ipad and a little ipad. The big one is my main one. The little one is for when i want to look at documents while working on the big one or for having something to throw into my purse. The main reason I want to upgrade it is that I’d really like ASK and pencil support available at all times, including on those quick jaunts. Also, if I’m only going to work a little on a trip, I’d leave the 12.9 at home and opt for a 10.5.

 

[sparksd]

I tried a 12.9 but I'm sticking with my 13" XPS13 laptop and 10.5" iPP.

 

[ssledoux]

Well I’m struggling with this decision. I’ve been thinking about it, and I went today and played with the 10.5 and the keyboard. I LOVE it. The keyboard is pretty easy to type on considering how much smaller it is than my ASK for my 12.9.

The thing is, I’m worried I’ll miss my 12.9 once I have a smaller one.

I honestly think I’d get more use from a 10.5 because I think it’s more portable. Even when I meet with Disney clients, it would be easier to set up on a small table at the local coffee joint than the 12.9.

Decisions, decisions...

 

[spiderman0616]

Well I’m struggling with this decision. I’ve been thinking about it, and I went today and played with the 10.5 and the keyboard. I LOVE it. The keyboard is pretty easy to type on considering how much smaller it is than my ASK for my 12.9.

The thing is, I’m worried I’ll miss my 12.9 once I have a smaller one.

I honestly think I’d get more use from a 10.5 because I think it’s more portable. Even when I meet with Disney clients, it would be easier to set up on a small table at the local coffee joint than the 12.9.

Decisions, decisions...

Yep—to me the 10.5” Smart Keyboard doesn’t feel a ton different from my Magic Keyboard as far as spacing and layout. 9.7” model was a different story.

 

[rui no onna]

I honestly think I’d get more use from a 10.5 because I think it’s more portable. Even when I meet with Disney clients, it would be easier to set up on a small table at the local coffee joint than the 12.9.

For this, I don't recommend downsizing.

Consider this, the Pro 12.9 is just around the size of a magazine or legal pad and it's so much nicer for clients to view pictures on the bigger display. Easier to read the various packages on offer, too. Particularly so if you're meeting with grandparents whose eyesight isn't the greatest anymore.

A4: 8.3" x 11.7"

Letter: 8.5" x 11"

Pro 12.9: 7.8" x 10.3"

Pro 10.5: 6.3" x 8.4"

9.7: 5.8" x 7.8"

 

[ssledoux]

For this, I don't recommend downsizing.

Consider this, the Pro 12.9 is just around the size of a magazine or legal pad and it's so much nicer for clients to view pictures on the bigger display. Easier to read the various packages on offer, too. Particularly so if you're meeting with grandparents whose eyesight isn't the greatest anymore.

A4: 8.3" x 11.7"
Letter: 8.5" x 11"
Pro 12.9: 7.8" x 10.3"
Pro 10.5: 6.3" x 8.4"
9.7: 5.8" x 7.8"

That makes sense, but sometimes there just isn’t room on small tables to have the larger iPP with a couple cups of coffee and pastries.

 

[oldhifi]

I think I will get the 10.5 next time, I had the 12.9, but sold it to my Brother-In-Law

 

[The Game 161]

I dumped my 12.9 for the 10.5 and am very happy with the decision. Take my 10.5 to work everyday and use it daily at home and out and about.

Use my macbook pro for tasks at home for the most part. Would say i use 10.5 pro slightly more at home

 

[pdaholic]

I received my 12.9 with ASK tonight. At first my heart sank a bit as I thought “this thing is huge, what have I done?!?” After getting it set-up and using it for a few hours, I’m really liking it. Websites that require zooming on the 10.5 are displaying large enough on the 12.9. There’s a lot of reaching to get to the top of the screen though. I can see what you all mean regarding taking it places; the 10.5 is much more compact. The 12.9 would fit in my backpack just fine though, and I never really carry my devices anywhere without a bag.

I haven’t sold my 10.5 yet, I’ll see how it goes with the big iPad for now.