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adamlbiscuit

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Sep 22, 2008
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Just think the M1 MacBook Air's they released this week will ultimately be the worst Apple silicon MacBook Air's they ever make (they'll naturally be superseded by the M2 MBA, M3 MBA, etc. etc.) Whereas the intel MacBook Air you have today is one of the best intel MacBook Air's Apple will ever release.

(Let's try and forget for a moment that the worst ASi MBA performs better than the best intel MBA haha).
 
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saulinpa

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Jun 15, 2008
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I am so glad that I returned the 2020 MBAir I tried after one TB3 port broke within the first week. Was it a sign?

Still no magsafe. Keyboard still sucks. Just a bit too small for my lap - would like wider. 14" maybe?
 

thehighwaystar

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Aug 2, 2018
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Very true, bastard buyer.... everybody here knew by far antecipation 3,5 times faster processors and 2X battery life...and three new absolute sure new devices weeks before the conference...even somewere there ws an indication of Neutral the buyers guide for a macbok air....so I do not understand such exciting as it was a public domain information. You should know better Apple would speed up a programmed obsolescence 3 times faster...who wouldn't?
 

adrianlondon

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Nov 28, 2013
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Switzerland
I thought about selling my i5 to get the M1 Air, and knocked up an advert on a local facebook group. After getting a couple of people showing interest, I checked the Apple Store to see how long it'd take to get the M1 Air here in Switzerland.

Delivery time two days before Christmas. I can see that slipping, too.

I can't deal with waiting that long without a decent laptop, so deleted the advert and will have a rethink next year.
 

eelpout

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Oct 30, 2007
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Silicon Valley
heh, i was completely wrong about the M1 and happy to admit it. guess I'm use to the days of Jobs when he would have absolutely had a demo of a MacBook crushing some Dell into a sobbing mess. :)

I think though I may hang on to my (fastly depreciating) '20 MBP i5 for a while. not enough ports for me on the current M1 crop and you just know a sadly needed redesign is coming.
 
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Booji

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Nov 17, 2011
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And those that bought the ARM Macs this week will feel screwed in less than a year when Apple redesigns the machines.....et cetera, et cetera. No one will ever be happy. ;)
I think in this case it is a bit different. This is a revolution versus an evolution.
 

vigilant

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Aug 7, 2007
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I get that happens with technology, but is it getting that rapid?

Yes, it performs just as well as I got it.

For all I know it may before better than the new one, but I doubt it.
Trust me, I get it. I bought a MacBook Pro 16 in March.

Now the MacBook Pro 13 blows it out of the water.

I hate to say it, but it’s true... this isn’t a result of Apple screwing the customer. This is a result of Intel just not giving a $$!&.

I can prove my point. When Apple released the 1 port MacBook, to me at least, it was very obvious that Apple thought the low power line was going to strive and iterate. Intel just sandbagged with chips that just didn’t meet expectation. You can say what you want of me for saying it, but there it is. I bought a Surface Go 2 fully loaded back in July knowing Apple was going ARM. Guess what... my $800 Surface Go 2 gets so hot that after using it for a few minutes you just don’t want to touch the display. It’s slow.... I’m talking unusable slow... I have no doubt the last iPad Air does laps around it after not starting the race for a couple hours.

It’s not just you, Intel screwed everybody. Do you really think companies weren’t telling Intel “we want something fast, that can last all day” and Intel was just delivering? Does anyone else really think it was just Apple asking for it?

My wife passively watched the Apple Silicon announcement, and she was on her PO$ Dell laptop from work. She heard it doesn’t get hot to the touch, and she looked at me and said “wait, why didn’t you tell me this”. She’s going to get a MacBook Air sooner rather than later. I’m PROBABLY going to take a bath on my MacBook Pro 16 to get an Apple Silicon MacBook Pro 13.

Intel failed everyone. They were suppose to get to 10nm I think what 3 years ago? 4 years ago? They got there when everyone else is on 7nm, and Apple has essentially bought out the entire years production of 5nm.

Here’s another question, one that I’ll pose, because no one else has asked it. Why is Apple able to perform like an i9 that has 8 cores, and can execute theoretically 16 threads, with an SOC with 4 high performance cores, and 4 high efficiency cores? Honest question.

Here’s another question. Why is it every time I’m on a conference call in whatever meeting tool, and if one person, or every person turns on their camera, it sounds like my MacBook Pro is trying to leave earths orbit... why does my MacBook Pro sound like it’s doing the same thing with applications open but nothing is happening.

Trust me, I get it. When you’re use to getting hit in the face for doing everything, and you know Intel is ignoring you while they satisfy AWS and Azure (AWS is all in on ARM), it can feel painful. Every other hardware manufacturer took that, and told everyone to deal with it. Because thats their lot in life.

We can be angry that Apple got out, and we’re still feeling the Intel pain, or we can be happy that because the platform can stand firm on something without a stupid sticker, $$$$ty R&D, and still do our work.

For me, I’m looking at all of the exits, and I’m getting my wife and I out before Intel even says 7no too loud. Because that will be bad too.
 

Abazigal

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Jul 18, 2011
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That’s technological progress for you. Sometimes, it comes in iterative improvements, and sometimes, it just leapfrogs the previous generation.
 

adrianlondon

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Nov 28, 2013
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We can be angry that Apple got out, and we’re still feeling the Intel pain, or we can be happy that because the platform can stand firm on something without a stupid sticker, $$$$ty R&D, and still do our work.
Great post. I'm also happy to hear the slow death of that stupid Intel Inside "sound logo" each time an advert from another company mentions Intel.
 

revs

macrumors 6502
Jun 2, 2008
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UK
I'm not sure what you thought the right answer was here? They just don't update their machines so that you can feel better?

As everyone has said, your machine is no worse than it was last week. No matter when new machines are released, your machine is just the same.

You needed a machine, and you bought one, nothing wrong with that
 

SirAnthonyHopkins

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Sep 29, 2020
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I also just bought a new Intel Mac Mini a couple of months ago, but you know what? It’s fine, because I needed it then, and it’ll work for what I need it to do for many years to come. As I’m using it I’m really not going to notice that it’s an Intel chip and not an Apple one.
 

nepats81

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Sep 28, 2014
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Nah fam we need to drop intel. It’s the past.

ARM the future. Hopefully I’ll be able to get a decent trade on my MacBook Air
 
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