I am curious how the physical sim works after you get an e-sim. My phone is unlocked, I have an att postpaid account I want to put on e-sim. Do I just put my tmobile(secondary number) physical SIM card in and the phone recognizes it?
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Yes, that's exactly right.
You can designate either cellular plan as primary for data and primary for voice, and they don't have to be the same.
There is a minor quirk in iOS that will tend to view your physical SIM cellular plan as "Number 1" and this can sometimes cause some applications to identify services incorrectly.
For example, as of right now, the popular application Open Signal will report that you are using whatever plan is in your physical SIM even though it's very clear that it is really pulling data from the eSIM.
There's no harm done, just some minor reporting issues for *them* not you.
So my question is what happens when a device is blacklisted since it's lost, can the thief/finder delete the e-sim profile and the carrier is totally unable to track it or re-add it back? The thing is I don't use Face ID protection or any iCloud lock since it's like for the family and no we just won't do it. so answer that, can that happen or not once it's blacklisted? once it's blacklisted, the carrier is probably going to disallow esim profile deletion because they are actively tracking it down? I mean, I don't have a lot of my personal data on there or anything since my iCloud isn't synced to it. But I do worry honestly speaking of it. Please answer all these questions.
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Yes, that's exactly right.
You can designate either cellular plan as primary for data and primary for voice, and they don't have to be the same.
There is a minor quirk in iOS that will tend to view your physical SIM cellular plan as "Number 1" and this can sometimes cause some applications to identify services incorrectly.
For example, as of right now, the popular application Open Signal will report that you are using whatever plan is in your physical SIM even though it's very clear that it is really pulling data from the eSIM.
There's no harm done, just some minor reporting issues for *them* not you.
So my question is what happens when a device is blacklisted since it's lost, can the thief/finder delete the e-sim profile and the carrier is totally unable to track it or re-add it back? The thing is I don't use Face ID protection or any iCloud lock since it's like for the family and no we just won't do it. so answer that, can that happen or not once it's blacklisted? once it's blacklisted, the carrier is probably going to disallow esim profile deletion because they are actively tracking it down? I mean, I don't have a lot of my personal data on there or anything since my iCloud isn't synced to it. But I do worry honestly speaking of it. Please answer all these questions.
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So my question is what happens when a device is blacklisted since it's lost, can the thief/finder delete the e-sim profile and the carrier is totally unable to track it or re-add it back? The thing is I don't use Face ID protection or any iCloud lock since it's like for the family and no we just won't do it. so answer that, can that happen or not once it's blacklisted? once it's blacklisted, the carrier is probably going to disallow esim profile deletion because they are actively tracking it down? I mean, I don't have a lot of my personal data on there or anything since my iCloud isn't synced to it. But I do worry honestly speaking of it. Please answer all these questions.
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So my question is what happens when a device is blacklisted since it's lost, can the thief/finder delete the e-sim profile and the carrier is totally unable to track it or re-add it back? The thing is I don't use Face ID protection or any iCloud lock since it's like for the family and no we just won't do it. so answer that, can that happen or not once it's blacklisted? once it's blacklisted, the carrier is probably going to disallow esim profile deletion because they are actively tracking it down? I mean, I don't have a lot of my personal data on there or anything since my iCloud isn't synced to it. But I do worry honestly speaking of it. Please answer all these questions.
I'm not exactly sure I understand your question, but to delete an eSIM profile, you need to navigate in the settings of the phone. In other words, the phone has to be unlocked. Even restoring it using iTunes doesn't delete the eSIM.
A carrier can't load an eSIM profile or prevent its removal, just like in the case of a physical SIM. Also, it's not the carrier's job to "track down" a lost device. The most they can do is blacklist it.
A carrier can't load an eSIM profile or prevent its removal, just like in the case of a physical SIM. Also, it's not the carrier's job to "track down" a lost device. The most they can do is blacklist it.
The eSIM cellular plan can be deleted if your iPhone is unlocked, yes, of course. If you recover the iPhone and the IMEI is not blacklisted then you would be able to re-add the eSIM cellular plan(s).
Reporting an iPhone lost or stolen will block the IMEI (and some other indicators) and it won't be able to be put onto any cellular plan, eSIM or physical SIM.
An iPhone can be tracked regardless of whether it has an active cellular plan, although of course doing this would normally be done only if it involved a serious criminal case. Your average everyday criminal is going to have a hard time stopping an iPhone from pinging, and even if he knows how to do that he's making the iPhone useless to his purpose, whatever that might've been.
If you do not want to use the security that Apple gives you, you're just making life worse for you. I'm not sure why you wouldn't want to use Face ID or other things you "just won't do" but to the extent you don't use these security protections, you're exacerbating your security problems. It's up to you, but you'll have to understand that you're making it all less secure.
Ive had an issue with my max for a while. I have a contract EE sim as esim and a payg EE sim as the physical secondary line.
About once a week it can’t find the second line and asks me if I want to change my settings for dialling defaults (or something like that) I just restart the phone and I’ve got my two lines back. If I don’t the phone continues with the main line until I do restart.
It’s not that annoying, although it can be if I forget to restart my phone.
I’ve got an old three sim sitting around and I’m going to throw that in and see if it has the same issues.
About once a week it can’t find the second line and asks me if I want to change my settings for dialling defaults (or something like that) I just restart the phone and I’ve got my two lines back. If I don’t the phone continues with the main line until I do restart.
It’s not that annoying, although it can be if I forget to restart my phone.
I’ve got an old three sim sitting around and I’m going to throw that in and see if it has the same issues.
It did it an hour or so after I posted, I'll swap sims over the weekend and see if this sorts it.
Works perfectly if you do it, but there is no official guide or official support.
The T-Mobile eSIM app continues to only allow new prepaid plans.
Activated my free 3rd line, which previously had no phone at all, as a secondary e-SIM line through T-Mobile chat a few weeks ago. Took me a whole 5 minutes.
I just started a chat through the imessages app. I said “I need to update the SIM for 480-XXX-XXXX, the new SIM number is ‘digital SIM ICCID’” and the rep updated it no questions asked.
I have activated an esim as my private line and a physical sim as my business line. Can I assign a whole group of contacts to always use the business line or do I have to manually asign every single contact to this line?
Sorry if this has already been answered.
Sorry if this has already been answered.
We no longer have to use the URL to retrieve the SM-DP+ Address ?
If you did not have to do that, it might indicate that the T-Mobile systems are now set up to support fully our eSIM changes.
How do you have a Digital SIM ICCID before the cellular plan is added? 0_o
Still a little confused about the procedure outlined a few posts above for a T-Mobile account, whereby the poster said he simply gave the CSR a Digital SIM ICCID before the cellular plan is added.
Did he mean the "Digital SIM IMEI"??
As far as I know, you still need the URL for the SM-DP+ Address and you would not have the ICCID until after the cellular plan is created.
What am I missing, and has T-Mobile changed its procedures now?
I think he meant the eSIM EID. AT&T half activated my iPhone using that, CS Rep didn’t know the system wouldn’t let him go all the way with it, and I have activated more than one iPad using that EID. If T-Mobile is setup for it you could give them that in chat and be on your way.
Using the EID plus the URL for the SM-DP+ Address is the way we know we can do it.
I was afraid I missed something and he was saying that there was now official T-Mobile support and/or a new procedure that did not require the URL.
I do not know why T-Mobile are being so cagey.
Those of us who have done it testify that the eSIM works perfectly, and T-Mobile human support is so wonderful that it defies logic they have not supported this officially.
Anyone having any WiFi calling issues after activating T-Mobile postpaid eSIM? I live in an area where I heavily rely on WiFi calling.
Also, what happens to the physical sim after eSIM activiation. I presume it would be dead after eSIM switch but what if I want to switch devices (non eSIM device)? Do I have to pay sim fees to get a new T-Mobile sim?
Also, what happens to the physical sim after eSIM activiation. I presume it would be dead after eSIM switch but what if I want to switch devices (non eSIM device)? Do I have to pay sim fees to get a new T-Mobile sim?
In the time my main T-Mobile cellular plan has been on an eSIM with an XS Max, I have had zero issues with WiFi Calling.
The physical SIM is not exactly dead, but it is waiting for you to have another cellular plan installed via that physical SIM. The only weird thing I can think of is an iOS related issue that will tend to view the physical SIM as #ONE in the firmware. It is a categorization weirdness that does not affect you in any way, but might affect some polling in particular applications.
For example, my primary cellular plan is the T-Mobile eSIM. My secondary cellular plan is Xfinity Mobile physical SIM.
When using OpenSignal, the application reports that I am testing Verizon (Xfinity Mobile), regardless of the fact that it is really pulling the cellular information from T-Mobile. I can even turn off the physical SIM plan completely, and it will still act like T-Mobile is Xfinity Mobile.
:shrug:
I've reported it. It's their problem and does not affect the user in any way.
Yes, if you are moving from an eSIM to a physical SIM using the same cellular plan, you might have to pay for a SIM card if you do not already have one, and you might pay an activation fee if you are using a T-Mobile store to do it.
If you tend to change devices often, you might want to consider just staying on a physical SIM. T-Mobile thinks that your main cellular plan should be on a physical SIM, and that your temporary travel numbers should be eSIM. The iOS oddity that I mentioned hints that T-Mobile are correct about this.
I think the reason why T-Mobile doesn't provide more support for eSIM is that it's just a very small percentage of their customers who will want to do it, but they're afraid that these customers will need more help while doing it.
If that makes sense.
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain. Yeah, I might be swapping devices and with those activation + SIM fees, it’s best for me NOT to use the eSIM feature.
I was so exited to use an iPhone with dual sim feature when it came out. Not going to happen for another couple of years looks like unless they release an iPhone with dual physical sim slots here in the US or at least until all US carriers fully/officially support it. I can even think of carriers charging a SIM card fee and that makes some sort of a sense to me but activation fee of $30+, c’mon!
I was so exited to use an iPhone with dual sim feature when it came out. Not going to happen for another couple of years looks like unless they release an iPhone with dual physical sim slots here in the US or at least until all US carriers fully/officially support it. I can even think of carriers charging a SIM card fee and that makes some sort of a sense to me but activation fee of $30+, c’mon!
[doublepost=1552840166][/doublepost]I guess I can save my old physical SIM and call up T-Mobile CS to re-activate my old SIM, but I bet T-Mobile will find ways to charge me something, somehow..