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If you're willing to go for that much money I would suggest did you take a look at it this one–it's the one I bought and I'm very pleased with it. It will give you all the adjustments you need for anything from espresso to press grind. I think it's an excellent starter grinder which will carry you for a good period of time. It's also delivering, for all practical purposes, zero retention, which makes measuring your bean dosage much less guesswork. Baratza also has a one step down, less expensive, model which is also a good investment. But if you can make the price of the one I've suggested I strongly believe you can't go wrong.

And now a bit about my Boston adventure.

So, I'm cruising down Newbury street (which is Boston's version of Fifth Avenue in New York… a very high end shopping street) looking for parking. I finally find a space about 1 1/2 blocks from my destination. I get out of my car and staggered–wobble–stumble–waddle down the street to my destination. I ask the friendly "barista" to point out a dark roast on the shelf. She is babbling about the beans they have and how wonderful they are. She hands me a bag and I checked it for the roast date. It says "Best Used By Jun 20, 2017". Yes, that's not a typo, it says 2017!

Obviously, I figure an error has been made. So I ask her about the date and with a straight face she says "roasted beans are fine for up to one year after the roast date." Not believing my ears I ask her to repeat that. Someone else enters the scene, apparently the owner of the shop. She has heard our conversation and reiterates that roasted beans are fine for up to one year after roasting. I gently and sweetly suggest that after one year the beans are fine for the garbage can. In fact, after two weeks the garbage can is a good place to store them. At which point both people turn away from me and walk away. Following suit, I turned away from them and walk out of the shop.

So now I've schlepped into Boston and have nothing to show for it. As I am staggering–wobbling–stumbling–waddling back to my car I noticed another coffee shop. What the hell, all I have to do his get down a steep flight of stone steps to check this out... why not. So I go into the shop and I ask the barista to help me pick out a dark roast blend. It turns out that this is really nice guy and he tells me that they only do medium roasts with their beans. Nice of him to be that honest but he's even nicer than that. He tells me that about a block up there is another coffee shop that has fresh roasted beans and that they have several very good dark roast blends. He even goes so far as to recommend one of the blends that he says he has tried and enjoyed. I thank him effusively as he's been very helpful in recommending another shop without even having made a sale.

So, I stagger–wobble–stumble–waddle another block to the recommended shop. They have a wonderful selection and I pick a dark roast blend of Bahia, Brazil and La Paz, Honduras farmed beans. And, oh joy, they were roasted only three days ago.

I am now going to put the kettle on and make myself a cup of what the shop calls it's Commonwealth Blend.

I will return shortly with a brief, it totally unhelpful, report.


Well, enjoy your Commonwealth Blend, - we look forward to the tasting notes - and thank you for that detailed account of your coffee seeking adventures in Boston (a city I have never been). Glad that you met with success - at least, the trip was not in vain.

Now, to be honest, when abroad in strange places, I will admit to no small delight if I can lay hands on a tin of coffee with a date - of, say - 2017. Needs must and all that sort of thing.

But, at home, well, yes. I am a bit more demanding and discerning where such matters are concerned.
 
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Torrefacto today served with heavy cream for a lush "dessert," which is also quite delicious over an ice ball. I didn't get much sleep last night and prepping for tomorrow is taking more time than I'd like it to. I've been up since 6 AM.
 
OK... ere's my brief, if unhelpful, review…

It's yummy!

To expand on my brilliant review... It's rich, complex, and very deep in flavor. The notes on the bag read:

"sweet, roasted nut, spiced hot chocolate"

That's a pretty good analysis, I guess, but it completely misses the finishing notes of donkey hoof.

Anyway it's good stuff. If you're interested, the shop does shipping, and this is the stuff I just tasted.
 
I seem to recall a tasting note - posted here, by a well known writer with a passion for coffee - who shall remain nameless - that referred to 'bat droppings'.

But, 'donkey hoof'? No, cannot quite recall encountering that when sipping, sampling, and savouring a cup of coffee......
 
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You really don't know what you're missing.

You are quite possibly perfectly right.

Yes, I really don't know what I am missing......

Then, again, I have (in reality) experienced the extraordinary aroma of kerosene and er, silage, when sipping Sauternes.

While some French specialists assured me that this was a final, clinching proof that this wine fell into the category of 'sublime', or, perhaps, merely 'seriously good' my mind boggled - and struggled to achieve the degree of dispassionate desire that goes down rather well in Francophile circles.
 
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Had a hankering for some espresso just now, can't imagine why, so I tried blending. I did this to preserve the little bit of espresso beans I have left until Wednesday. Now I did not weigh the beans of each kind, but rather did a hastily scooped method. 1 scoop Dessert Oasis espresso, and two scoops of Los Immortals equaling 20 grams.

Not knowing how the mix of beans would end up I left the grind setting on about 9 for the Rancilio which works well for strictly the Dessert Oasis beans. It turned out that it was too coarse and the extraction was too quick for espresso. There were too many of the Intelligentsia beans in the mix that required a finer grind.

Regardless, I consumed the espresso and it tasted okay, but not as good as the pure Dessert Oasis espresso beans.

Next time, probably in the morning, I'll adjust the grind and try for a 50/50 blend of 10 grams each and see what happens.
 
Had a hankering for some espresso just now, can't imagine why, so I tried blending. I did this to preserve the little bit of espresso beans I have left until Wednesday. Now I did not weigh the beans of each kind, but rather did a hastily scooped method. 1 scoop Dessert Oasis espresso, and two scoops of Los Immortals equaling 20 grams.

Not knowing how the mix of beans would end up I left the grind setting on about 9 for the Rancilio which works well for strictly the Dessert Oasis beans. It turned out that it was too coarse and the extraction was too quick for espresso. There were too many of the Intelligentsia beans in the mix that required a finer grind.

Regardless, I consumed the espresso and it tasted okay, but not as good as the pure Dessert Oasis espresso beans.

Next time, probably in the morning, I'll adjust the grind and try for a 50/50 blend of 10 grams each and see what happens.

Aha, I told you blending could be fun.

Now, granted, it gets better as you experiment with it.

Hope the blending experiments go even better tomorrow.
 
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Had a hankering for some espresso just now, can't imagine why, so I tried blending. I did this to preserve the little bit of espresso beans I have left until Wednesday. Now I did not weigh the beans of each kind, but rather did a hastily scooped method. 1 scoop Dessert Oasis espresso, and two scoops of Los Immortals equaling 20 grams.

Not knowing how the mix of beans would end up I left the grind setting on about 9 for the Rancilio which works well for strictly the Dessert Oasis beans. It turned out that it was too coarse and the extraction was too quick for espresso. There were too many of the Intelligentsia beans in the mix that required a finer grind.

Regardless, I consumed the espresso and it tasted okay, but not as good as the pure Dessert Oasis espresso beans.

Next time, probably in the morning, I'll adjust the grind and try for a 50/50 blend of 10 grams each and see what happens.

I am wonderfully impressed with the sophistication of our friend, @SandboxGeneral, and others, not only with working on their own blends (granted, @SandboxGeneral was doing it out of desperation :p) but also the knowledge of the necessary grind adjustment blends require.

Nice going, Mate.:D
 
I am wonderfully impressed with the sophistication of our friend, @SandboxGeneral, and others, not only with working on their own blends (granted, @SandboxGeneral was doing it out of desperation :p) but also the knowledge of the necessary grind adjustment blends require.

Nice going, Mate.:D

Ah, um. Cue sound of discreet cough.

"Knowledge of the necessary grind adjustment blends require"? Ahem. The principle of much scientific experimentation is empirical and based on objective observation. Which means sometimes hit and miss adjustments. Or flying by the seat of your pants, as you try to guess what might work (and deal with the consequences of what doesn't).

Thank the divinities whose existence I cannot in all conscience swear to, that French Press (and Hario dripper) grinds tend to be more forgivingly coarse than are those demanded by espresso.

(I swear that if I ever return to drinking espresso regularly at home, there will be an electric grinder to deal with all of this. Actually, @Shrink: Your HG-1 company makes an obscenely gorgeous electric variant......as I found out today when confirming the name of the incredible grinder you had before replying to @Dave Meadows who had asked about grinders earlier).
 
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Those of you (nutters) (no I'll delete that in a min) who do blend their beans (I'm WAY behind you on this), do you keep notes as to which blends work well and those best forgotten?
 
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Those of you (nutters) (no I'll delete that in a min) who do blend their beans (I'm WAY behind you on this), do you keep notes as to which blends work well and those best forgotten?

No.

In coffee - while some - friends, family - who know me here think I have unforgivingly impossible and perfectly ludicrous standards - I realise that when measured alongside my colleagues, peers and friends on this forum that I fall embarrassingly far short of caffeine perfection, and am but a mere dilettante, as I lack the required degree of intense zeal.

So, no, I don't.

But, occasionally, when I stumble across an excellent blend, I try to remember what made that one special, and see if I can try to replicate it. After all, this is supposed to be fun, not work.
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I just looked.

PLEASE...hold me back!:eek:

Yes.

That is what I said.

Obscenely gorgeous. Isn't it?
 
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Those of you (nutters) (no I'll delete that in a min) who do blend their beans (I'm WAY behind you on this), do you keep notes as to which blends work well and those best forgotten?

No need to worry about calling us "nutters". In my professional opinion, and with the possible exception of our dear friend @Scepticalscribe who is relentlessly and disturbingly sensible, the vast majority of the denizens of this thread are...ah...not...um...wrapped real tight.o_O:confused:
 
Only $3,300 for the EG-One. At that rock bottom, once a year sale price, I may have to buy two, you know, to keep one as a backup in case the other one gets dirty.

Cough.

I have this weakness for over-engineered beautiful perfection. My steampunk OE Lido 2 - I am almost embarrassed to admit this - gives me a mad thrill whenever I look at it, let alone use it. (The company took months to make it when I ordered it, but that was fine, as I was working abroad at the time).

But, isn't the EG-One gorgeous?

Anyway, I stumbled across it earlier today, when checking (my research habits leach into everyday life) the actual name of what @Shrink had - or, seeking to confirm that my memory was accurate, as I had remembered @Shrink describing his HG-1 in loving detail, when he bought it, and how I had read their website with fascination at the time.

Imagine my stunned surprise when I saw that they now manufacture an electric version. Beautiful.
 
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Cough.

I have this weakness for over-engineered beautiful perfection. My steampunk OE Lido 2 - I am almost embarrassed to admit this - gives me a mad thrill whenever I look at it, let alone use it. (The company took months to make it when I ordered it, but that was fine, as I was working abroad at the time).

But, isn't the EG-One gorgeous?

Anyway, I stumbled across it earlier today, when checking (my research habits leach into everyday life) the actual name of what @Shrink had - or, seeking to confirm that my memory was accurate, as I had remembered @Shrink describing his HG-1 in loving detail, when he bought it, and how I had read their website with fascination at the time.

Imagine my stunned surprise when I saw that they now manufacture an electric version. Beautiful.

PLEASE...hold me back!:eek:
 
It's absolutely stunning.

If I had an extra $3,300 laying around, I'd waste no time in ordering one. That's the truth right there.



No, we won't hold you back. We want you to buy one so we can grind coffee vicariously though you.

It's sooo expensive.

I have no room on the counter.

I already have a fine grinder.

It's soooo expensive.

I'm only making press...so it's overkill.

What will I do with my current grinder.

It's soooooo expensive.

PLEASE...hold me back!:eek::eek:
 
Only $3,300 for the EG-One. At that rock bottom, once a year sale price, I may have to buy two, you know, to keep one as a backup in case the other one gets dirty.

I like the way your mind works, @SandboxGeneral.

As someone who really dislikes housework - I could never be accused of being genetically predisposed to wanting to clean up, I do it, but with an ill grace, and - when possible - far prefer to pay someone to do it - the idea of buying an obscenely gorgeous back-up in case my own model gets dirty is strangely appealing.

PLEASE...hold me back!:eek:

How can something resembling Victorian restraint be achieved? (That question is rhetorical).

It's absolutely stunning.

If I had an extra $3,300 laying around, I'd waste no time in ordering one. That's the truth right there.



No, we won't hold you back. We want you to buy one so we can grind coffee vicariously though you.

Again, I have to say I like the way your mind works, @SandboxGeneral.

I am actually grinning (that stupid auto-correct suggested 'grinding' - can't think why) reading your post.
 
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