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Probably one of the most important things in that photo is the roasted on date. Beans with no roasted on date, in my opinion, should be avoided. ;)

Anyway, on to one of @Shrink favorite topics, me. :D

Being that I ran out of the Black Cat beans last night, I used the Dessert Oasis beans this morning, roasted 3 days ago. The cup was magnificent to say the least. The Machine is wonderful and I can actually notice a difference in the quality of the shots and the taste compared to the Gaggia. That's not to say the Gaggia is a bad machine, because its not. But after using the Gaggia for more than a year and a few days with the Expobar, I can already see that the Gaggia is less forgiving when it comes to tamp pressure, weight of grounds and grinder settings. If I didn't get it dialed in just right, I wouldn't get a good cup. So far, every shot I've pulled with the Expobar has been respectable and required very little adjustments to my techniques.

I think I've come a long way since my first espresso machine.
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While I like a good deal of information about the beans in a bag, I completely agree that the most important bit of information is the roast date. Without that one has no idea if the beans are stale or not until one is already paid for the bag and brewed up some coffee.

I can't tell you how happy I am that the Expobar has worked out so well and please's you so much. After a heavy investment of hard earned funds it is a shame to feel anything less then great pleasure with the new piece of coffee hardware.

I also think it's important for someone learning the espresso skill set to start with a modest machine. As you point out, it is less forgiving and therefore requires the newbie to learn the small, but essential, skills necessary for making the espresso. Call it an initiation rite, or perhaps more accurately a steep but extremely important learning curve. For me it was difficult, and at times frustrating, to learn to control the variables (grind, tamp, dosage, extraction time, etc.) but ultimately rewarding. Slowly upgrading the essential hardware, grinder and espresso machine, gives one an increasing appreciation of what is gained using better and better equipment… but all resting on the acquired skills of the individual.

Enjoy your new machine, friend @SandboxGeneral, and the wonderful coffee it produces in combination with your hard-earned skills.:D
 
Here is a video, in 4K, of a shot I pulled tonight from the new Expobar machine. If you can't playback 4K on your device, the video will downscale to 1080P or whatever it can handle automatically.

This used up the last of the Black Cat Classic beans, and I had to use about 4 grams of the Los Inmortales to get to 18 grams in the PF.

Very nice! I could actually smell it! ;)

Costco is good for my Rwandan beans.
Thank you! Costco lost me dropping AMEX, all I use. My membership expires in a few days.

Local supplier, they roast in house ... I've had coffee in there a few times that was excellent (they also have some great beer, wine, deserts)

Anyway, this was my score:

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"Lemonade", I am interested in your findings on this. Might have to try this. I love lemonade!
 
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Probably one of the most important things in that photo is the roasted on date. Beans with no roasted on date, in my opinion, should be avoided. ;)

Anyway, on to one of @Shrink favorite topics, me. :D

Being that I ran out of the Black Cat beans last night, I used the Dessert Oasis beans this morning, roasted 3 days ago. The cup was magnificent to say the least. The Machine is wonderful and I can actually notice a difference in the quality of the shots and the taste compared to the Gaggia. That's not to say the Gaggia is a bad machine, because its not. But after using the Gaggia for more than a year and a few days with the Expobar, I can already see that the Gaggia is less forgiving when it comes to tamp pressure, weight of grounds and grinder settings. If I didn't get it dialed in just right, I wouldn't get a good cup. So far, every shot I've pulled with the Expobar has been respectable and required very little adjustments to my techniques.

I think I've come a long way since my first espresso machine.
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Delighted to hear that you are deriving great enjoyment from your Expobar espresso machine. It is gorgeous, and looks as though it will serve you well for many years to come.

Well, when I am in the mood for a leisurely cup, or two, I use the French Press, especially if I have the time.

So, just now, I prepared a long, leisurely pot of coffee - grinding the beans, heating the pot (and the mugs) as the substitute carer loves coffee, too. Ethiopian beans, (Aramo and Kochere, both from the Yirgacheffe region), the OE Lido grinder cheerfully making light work of the beans, Le Creuset pot and mugs heating.

And a lovely cup - or two - of clean, bright, coffee.

Unfortunately, I forgot about Andrew Marr's programme (Sunday mornings on BBC)- I could kick myself.

However, I did manage a leisurely late breakfast of freshly squeezed juice (grapefruit, two oranges, one lemon), a pot of coffee with freshly ground Ethiopian beans, and some toasted French bread - (yesterday's French bread is lovely toasted today), with cheese (Gorgonzola, Camembert, and Teleggio - not at the same time, on separate small slices), and then, with homemade (but not by me) raspberry jam and butter.

Now, to the Sunday papers.

Mother used to be a brilliant tennis and table tennis player in her youth; (in the early 50s, she played at just under international standard), and so, we will put on the tennis for her this afternoon, as the final - the men's final - of Wimbledon will be broadcast.

To be honest, I am not sure how much tennis she will be able to follow, but, between the Tour de France (hunky men, fast movement, great scenery), some tennis, which she used to love and was able to read games in a way that some of the commentators never managed - and ABBA (which I can hear playing upstairs, Mother sings along and marks time - waving both hands - to the songs), I am sure that she will be fine.

Re the date on that coffee, - when I checked again - I did see that strange notation used by Our Transatlantic Cousins when rendering dates in writing, the sort that always has me blinking when I read it.
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While I like a good deal of information about the beans in a bag, I completely agree that the most important bit of information is the roast date. Without that one has no idea if the beans are stale or not until one is already paid for the bag and brewed up some coffee.

I can't tell you how happy I am that the Expobar has worked out so well and please's you so much. After a heavy investment of hard earned funds it is a shame to feel anything less then great pleasure with the new piece of coffee hardware.

I also think it's important for someone learning the espresso skill set to start with a modest machine. As you point out, it is less forgiving and therefore requires the newbie to learn the small, but essential, skills necessary for making the espresso. Call it an initiation rite, or perhaps more accurately a steep but extremely important learning curve. For me it was difficult, and at times frustrating, to learn to control the variables (grind, tamp, dosage, extraction time, etc.) but ultimately rewarding. Slowly upgrading the essential hardware, grinder and espresso machine, gives one an increasing appreciation of what is gained using better and better equipment… but all resting on the acquired skills of the individual.

Enjoy your new machine, friend @SandboxGeneral, and the wonderful coffee it produces in combination with your hard-earned skills.:D

Agree - heartily - with the sentiments of delight expressed re @SandboxGeneral's brand new Expobar. It is brilliant that he is enjoying it, and I am sure that most of us are more than happy to take vicarious pleasure from his unalloyed joy.

However, re-reading this post, I am intrigued to see that you recommend a 'modest machine' for those starting out mastering the espresso skill set and they set about trying to make their own espresso.

Hm.
 
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I just finished my afternoon coffee and it was a delight. I'm currently rotating through three different bean blends...Atomic Cafe Diesel Dark Roast blend, Dessert Oasis Colombia Huila - Limited, Competition Espresso, and Intelligentsia El Diablo blend. I really enjoy rotating through the different blends during the course of a day… it keeps things interesting.
 
Oh my...that's just so beautiful!

Thanks, @SandboxGeneral, for the video.:D
This is what my spare time on the weekend has come to. Scouring Vimeo and YouTube for espresso videos. What could be more important or fun?

Just to keep things interesting, I placed an order from Sweet Maria's.

Burundi Mutambu Rubanda has honey sweetness, chewy chocolate flavors and and spiced aromatics. 1lb roasted to Full City
https://www.sweetmarias.com/product/roasted-38

Rwanda + Burundi = Espresso Perfection
 
This is what my spare time on the weekend has come to. Scouring Vimeo and YouTube for espresso videos. What could be more important or fun?

Just to keep things interesting, I placed an order from Sweet Maria's.

Burundi Mutambu Rubanda has honey sweetness, chewy chocolate flavors and and spiced aromatics. 1lb roasted to Full City
https://www.sweetmarias.com/product/roasted-38

Rwanda + Burundi = Espresso Perfection

Ah, coffee from Rwanda and Burundi? The two together? Fascinating.

Must say that I look forward to the tasting notes, when they come in due course.

The pity of it with Sweet Maria's is that most of their coffee beans are sold green, - meaning you have to roast them yourself - (a step too far for me) and they have a very small selection of pre-roasted coffee.

Following recommendations from this thread, I seem to recall trying out the fabled Liquid Amber, on one of the rare occasions when Sweet Maria's were offering it as a pre-roasted coffee. Now, while it was very nice, it didn't send me into transports of joy.

I suspect that I may need to order a coffee that might be more to my actual tastes; and, I am also looking out for coffees that might blend well with Ethiopian beans.

Anyway, may you enjoy your Burundi Mutambu Ruanda. When do you expect to receive it?

And, on the topic of what one does when entertaining oneself at week-ends, I blush to describe my week-end reading; politics, recipes, beer reviews, wine reviews, more politics, some history, far less cooking than formerly, politics, a little science, - and - what is less embarrassing to mention here, - sometimes, a work of scifi or fantasy for light reading.

Whatever you find interesting...........
 
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Ah, coffee from Rwanda and Burundi? The two together? Fascinating.

Must say that I look forward to the tasting notes, when they come in due course.

the city of it with Sweet Maria's is that most of their coffee beans are sold green, and they have a very small selection of pre-roasted coffee.

Following recommendations from this thread, I seem to recall trying out the fabled Liquid Amber, on one of the rare occasions when Sweet Maria's were offering it as a pre-roasted coffee. Now, while it was very nice, it didn't send me into transports of joy.

Yes, I was on their site looking for the Liquid Amber but its not listed as being available right now, so I chose this other blend they offered. The Liquid Amber, as I recall, is roasted more for espresso and is a darker roast, which for other style of coffees, you, and I, prefer a more medium roast.

But for espresso, a dark roast is better and that's what I prefer I'm finding. It just depends on the brew method and individual taste.

I suspect that I may need to order a coffee that might be more to my actual tastes; and, I am also looking out fro coffees that might blend well with Ethiopian.

Anyway, may you enjoy your Burundi Mutambu Ruanda. When do you expect to receive it?

I expect to receive it sometime this week, though I don't know which day yet. I may assume Wednesday or Thursday though.

And, on the topic of what one does when entertaining oneself at week-ends, I blush to describe my week-end reading; politics, recipes, beer reviews, wine reviews, more politics, some history, far less cooking than formerly, politics, a little science, - and - what is less embarrassing to mention here, - sometimes, a work of scifi or fantasy for light reading.

Whatever you find interesting...........

My entertainment for the weekends, and usually weeknights primarily centers around science reading and documentaries. Earlier today I finished the series called The Cosmos with Neil deGrasse Tyson, which is an updated version of the same name by the famed Carl Sagan. If you haven't seen it, give it a look, I know you'd enjoy it.

Additionally, I scour websites and Twitter, along with specifically NASA and the science section of slate.com for interesting articles to read. I aggregate them in an iOS app called Instapaper and consume them through that app. The app is fantastic because it goes to the website of the article and grabs only the text and related, appropriate images, and imports them, leaving all the distracting adverts and flying images across the screen out and presents it in a newspaper style which is easy and lovely to read on the iPad.

When I'm not doing that, then typical entertainment on TV is searched for where I don't need to engage my brain so much.
 
Looking for an affordable espresso set up. I want to set it up for my wife for christmas. we just spent 3 years in Italy. before Italy we did not drink coffee at all. 6 months in Italy we could not live with out it. I am looking to spend less than 500. thanks for the help.

Mike
 
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Yes, I was on their site looking for the Liquid Amber but its not listed as being available right now, so I chose this other blend they offered. The Liquid Amber, as I recall, is roasted more for espresso and is a darker roast, which for other style of coffees, you, and I, prefer a more medium roast.

But for espresso, a dark roast is better and that's what I prefer I'm finding. It just depends on the brew method and individual taste.



I expect to receive it sometime this week, though I don't know which day yet. I may assume Wednesday or Thursday though.



My entertainment for the weekends, and usually weeknights primarily centers around science reading and documentaries. Earlier today I finished the series called The Cosmos with Neil deGrasse Tyson, which is an updated version of the same name by the famed Carl Sagan. If you haven't seen it, give it a look, I know you'd enjoy it.

Additionally, I scour websites and Twitter, along with specifically NASA and the science section of slate.com for interesting articles to read. I aggregate them in an iOS app called Instapaper and consume them through that app. The app is fantastic because it goes to the website of the article and grabs only the text and related, appropriate images, and imports them, leaving all the distracting adverts and flying images across the screen out and presents it in a newspaper style which is easy and lovely to read on the iPad.

When I'm not doing that, then typical entertainment on TV is searched for where I don't need to engage my brain so much.

Ah, Cosmos - I well remember that TV series (I watched it in the early 80s when it was made and loved it - it was brilliant). And the soundtrack - by the superb Vangelis - was superb. Haunting, in fact, and so good that I tracked it down years later as a CD.

Some time later, I read the book, so, I would most certainly be interested in an updated version. Actually, I had an awful lot of respect for Carl Sagan, an intelligent, open-minded man with a gift for teaching and an absolute passion for knowledge and learning which he was very keen to share.

Okay: I must check out Neil deGrasse Tyson, - is it a newer education of 'Cosmos' - or, an attempt to treat of the same themes seven decades later?

Anyway, yes, I love reading this stuff, so thank you very much for the recommendation.
 
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Okay: I must check out Neil deGrasse Tyson, - is it a newer education of 'Cosmos' - or, an attempt to treat of the same themes seven decades later?

Yes, it's newer in its education as it provides information on the cosmos that we've learned since the early 1980's when Carl Sagan made the original series. This version was produced in 2014.
 
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Looking for an affordable espresso set up. I want to set it up for my wife for christmas. we just spent 3 years in Italy. before Italy we did not drink coffee at all. 6 months in Italy we could not live with out it. I am looking to spend less than 500. thanks for the help.

Mike

Hi Mike, and welcome to the asylum!:eek::D

Just a couple of words in general about an espresso setup. Obviously, of the three or four essential variables involved in the production of espresso, the first and most important are high quality, very fresh, beans.

The next most important element is the grinder. And a somewhat distant third is the actual espresso machine, in terms of importance.

In terms of your available budget I would suggest spending about 60% (or a bit more) on the grinder, and about 40% (possibly a bit less) on the espresso machine.

In terms of actual suggestions for the grinder and the espresso machine, let me do a bit of looking around to make some recommendations.

I'm sure that the other certifiably insane denizens of this thread will also jump in with suggestions about grinders and espresso machines.

All of us here just love spending other people's money.:p:D
 
Back to coffee: It is interesting when you - that is - @SandboxGeneral - wrote that a dark roast is better for espresso. Why is this so, in your opinion? (And any others who wish to chime in with thoughts on this, please feel free to do so).

Years ago, I used to think that I liked a dark roast - and disdained the lights roasts - but, now, for the coffees I drink, or, rather, for the way or means by which I like to drink them (Hario dripper, French Press, occasionally Chemex), I find that I have come to prefer the milder to medium roasts far better.

To be honest, I wasn't all that crazy about the Liquid Amber - although it was written about and recommended in tones of reverence here (and I have no issue with that - I was only belatedly coming to the realisation that this was a style I didn't much care for, whereas others loved it) - and that, I think, put me off ordering any more coffees from Sweet Maria's.

Actually, I must take a fresh - or occasional - look at their website to see if they have anything roasted that might capture my interest.

While I like espresso, - I like it a lot, especially if it is good espresso - I also find that I need to take (preferably brown) sugar with it, which is not the case with the other coffees I drink.

Some the espressos I have had in recent times are just too sharply and overwhelmingly bitter, - and these are from small enthusiastic coffee shops where the coffee beans have been recently roasted. However, I suspect that the actual beans chosen may reflect that, - as some beans ar a lot less smooth than others - as indeed, may the roasting itself if it is too dark.

Even in espresso, I realise that I have come to prefer smooth - and even sweet - tasting coffee.
 
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All of us here just love spending other people's money.:p:D
I can certainly attest to that!
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Back to coffee: It is interesting when you - that is - @SandboxGeneral - wrote that a dark roast is better for espresso. Why is this so, in your opinion? (And any others who wish to chime in with thoughts on this, please feel free to do so).

Its really, truly, personal preference. One can make espresso with any roast style. But with the darker roast you get a more bold and bitter taste and usually get a far larger crema as well. I've made espresso with dark and medium roasts and much prefer the taste of the dark roasts.

However, when I make French Press, I don't like the dark roasts and prefer the medium roasts.
 
I can certainly attest to that!

But it cannot be argued that you are not hugely enjoying this wonderful new purchase.....or that a grin does not light up your features when your eye falls on the brand new, gleaming, Expobar - primed and ready for espresso action - when you stumble into the kitchen early in the morning blearily rubbing sleep from your eyes.....(maybe I am telling my own tale here, for I am not a morning person, perhaps you are....)

Anyway, I am of the firm opinion that one's quality of life matters, too.
 
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Looking for an affordable espresso set up. I want to set it up for my wife for christmas. we just spent 3 years in Italy. before Italy we did not drink coffee at all. 6 months in Italy we could not live with out it. I am looking to spend less than 500. thanks for the help.

Mike

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OK... Here are a couple of suggestions. Let me say upfront that since you're working with a somewhat limited budget I've tried to take that into account. Aside from the quick suggestions below, I would also suggest buying a decent tamper rather than using the little plastic piece of garbage that is usually included with the machine. If you need suggestions on that I will try to help.

Here's a suggestion on the grinder. It is conical burr grinder with 40 grind adjustments which will allow you some flexibility if you also choose to use it for pour over, drip, or French press. For the espresso you will probably only use adjustments 0 - 10.

I have made one suggestion on the espresso machine after only quick and cursory look at what's available on Amazon. It does not give much information on the construction materials, but for a low-end, starter espresso machine, both De Longhi and Breville are good starter machines.

Don't leap into anything yet... I will do a bit more looking and I'm sure that some of the others who post here will make some suggestions when they stop by.
 
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Looking for an affordable espresso set up. I want to set it up for my wife for christmas. we just spent 3 years in Italy. before Italy we did not drink coffee at all. 6 months in Italy we could not live with out it. I am looking to spend less than 500. thanks for the help.

Mike
Do stay away from blade grinders. Always, always get a burr grinder for coffee bean grinding. As Shrink points out, you want at least a 40 to 50 setting grinder, and for espresso, 0 - 10 will be the range you will use.

Consistency of the grind particles are key to extracting good espresso as the water is pressed through the portafilter. You want consistent particles, appropriately ground so that the water can press through evenly and not create channels through the coffee thereby missing a lot of, or most of, the coffee.

Blade grinders are fine for grinding herbs, but they make a terrible mess of coffee beans and do not create a consistent particle by any stretch of the imagination. Additionally blade grinders will chop the bean multiple times over before spitting them out and that creates a lot of unnecessary friction and thus heat entering the beans which also negatively affects the taste of them.

The slower RPM of a burr grinder the better it will be for adding less heat to the bean.
 
Looking for an affordable espresso set up. I want to set it up for my wife for christmas. we just spent 3 years in Italy. before Italy we did not drink coffee at all. 6 months in Italy we could not live with out it. I am looking to spend less than 500. thanks for the help.

Mike

One further note… at the risk of sounding discouraging I want to point out that to learn to make really good espresso is a difficult process that takes a really long time. If you want to make espresso similar to what you had while in Italy you will have to learn how to control a number of variables at the same time. The making of a good cup of espresso requires a certain insane commitment and passion to controlling minutia.

It's also very messy!:p

You also need this!

The post above by @SandboxGenaral gives excellent information as to why you should NEVER even consider a blade grinder.
 
Do stay away from blade grinders. Always, always get a burr grinder for coffee bean grinding. As Shrink points out, you want at least a 40 to 50 setting grinder, and for espresso, 0 - 10 will be the range you will use.

Consistency of the grind particles are key to extracting good espresso as the water is pressed through the portafilter. You want consistent particles, appropriately ground so that the water can press through evenly and not create channels through the coffee thereby missing a lot of, or most of, the coffee.

Blade grinders are fine for grinding herbs, but they make a terrible mess of coffee beans and do not create a consistent particle by any stretch of the imagination. Additionally blade grinders will chop the bean multiple times over before spitting them out and that creates a lot of unnecessary friction and thus heat entering the beans which also negatively affects the taste of them.

The slower RPM of a burr grinder the better it will be for adding less heat to the bean.

One further note… at the risk of sounding discouraging I want to point out that to learn to make really good espresso is a difficult process that takes a really long time. If you want to make espresso similar to what you had while in Italy you will have to learn how to control a number of variables at the same time. The making of a good cup of espresso requires a certain insane commitment and passion to controlling minutia.

It's also very messy!:p

You also need this!

The post above by @SandboxGenaral gives excellent information as to why you should NEVER even consider a blade grinder.

Happy sigh.

Now, one of the duets of wonderful insanity is back with us in full, tuneful singing.......dare I say it, - but from the very same hymn sheet?

Now, @Shrink: The variables.

When encouraging students, - or those who may wish to master espresso - you want them to think that the process requires a bit (or - perish the thought, maybe - a lot) of hard work, but is not impossible. And not even extremely difficult.

And, that (aiming for) the very good need not be the enemy of (coming for) the very best...
 
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Thanks for all the help guys. i am looking something easy for my wife to use for her early morning coffee and through out the day. and she has to take care of 2 small kids so she uses it a lot. ha
 
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One further note… at the risk of sounding discouraging I want to point out that to learn to make really good espresso is a difficult process that takes a really long time.

@martymar112 This cannot be overstated enough. I am 3 years into my espresso journey and only now have upgraded to professional level espresso machines. This is the third upgrade I've done in that time and I've gone through two levels of grinders, but more, the technique and practice of refining the grind, getting the dosage right, applying the right amount of tamp pressure and timing the shot are what really make the espresso either good or bad.

The machines are marginally less important in that respect, but the grinder, arguably, is the most important piece of equipment in your arsenal.

It's taken me this long to get really good at all this while practicing on less forgiving machines than I have now, which as Shrink has pointed out to me, is a good thing so that I could hone my skills more and more and be less reliant on the machine trying to make a good shot for me.

Of course, everyone is different, and I could have upgraded sooner if I chose to. But I guess my point is to support Shrink's point, that this is an art form and takes practice, a lot of it, before becoming proficient at it.
 
Thanks for all the help guys. i am looking something easy for my wife to use for her early morning coffee and through out the day. and she has to take care of 2 small kids so she uses it a lot. ha

Does your wife want something that makes coffee - good coffee - or espresso?

There is a big difference.

And, espresso machines themselves differ enormously in how much they demand from the person using them. Some are fully automatic, some manual, and some are semi-automatic.

They require differing levels of expertise, dedication and concentration and control. (And tend to allow for differing levels of distraction; even when grinding beans and preparing coffee for my French Press - which is about the most forgiving and idiot proof method there is for making coffee - I don't want company, unless it is extremely congenial. Small children, loud adults and/or muddled elders are not welcome in my kitchen when I am cooking, reading, or preparing coffee.)
 
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Back to coffee: It is interesting when you - that is - @SandboxGeneral - wrote that a dark roast is better for espresso. Why is this so, in your opinion? (And any others who wish to chime in with thoughts on this, please feel free to do so).

Years ago, I used to think that I liked a dark roast - and disdained the lights roasts - but, now, for the coffees I drink, or, rather, for the way or means by which I like to drink them (Hario dripper, French Press, occasionally Chemex), I find that I have come to prefer the milder to medium roasts far better.

To be honest, I wasn't all that crazy about the Liquid Amber - although it was written about and recommended in tones of reverence here (and I have no issue with that - I was only belatedly coming to the realisation that this was a style I didn't much care for, whereas others loved it) - and that, I think, put me off ordering any more coffees from Sweet Maria's.

Actually, I must take a fresh - or occasional - look at their website to see if they have anything roasted that might capture my interest.

While I like espresso, - I like it a lot, especially if it is good espresso - I also find that I need to take (preferably brown) sugar with it, which is not the case with the other coffees I drink.

Some the espressos I have had in recent times are just too sharply and overwhelmingly bitter, - and these are from small enthusiastic coffee shops where the coffee beans have been recently roasted. However, I suspect that the actual beans chosen may reflect that, - as some beans ar a lot less smooth than others - as indeed, may the roasting itself if it is too dark.

Even in espresso, I realise that I have come to prefer smooth - and even sweet - tasting coffee.

As far as the need for dark roast beans in espresso goes… I think it is generally agreed that espresso should be the strongest and most bold coffee possible. Everything I have read, and all of my personal experience, leads me to the opinion that only a dark roast makes a good espresso. I suppose that one could use a medium roast bean, but I would not. Being strong and bold does not, by any means, mean bitter. But it does mean that it is a small, powerful, intense shot of coffee. There is, of course, absolutely nothing wrong with putting in some sugar if that is what one wishes. While I am a purist and only drink coffee black and unsweetened, it certainly does not suggest that there aren't very many people who enjoy excellent espresso with some sugar in it.

As far as the beans go… there are some beans that take well to dark roasting, while others do not. It is my impression that the Ethiopian beans that you enjoy take best to a light, or possibly even medium roast. There are other beans (many Central and South American beans) which take very well to dark roasting and make excellent espresso.


Happy sigh.

Now, one of the duets of wonderful insanity is back with us in full, tuneful singing.......dare I say it, - but from the very same hymn sheet?

Now, @Shrink: The variables.

When encouraging students, - or those who may wish to master espresso - you want them to think that the process requires a bit (or - perish the thought, maybe - a lot) of hard work, but is not impossible. And not even extremely difficult.

And, that (aiming for) the very good need not be the enemy of (coming for) the very best...

Nothing pleases me more than helping someone who wishes to learn about making espresso, but I think it is only fair to be honest and say that learning the skills necessary to make a really good espresso requires a certain insane passion and is not easy. Whether it is "extremely difficult" or not is, to me, a matter of definition. But to be fair, let's just say the process is time consuming and...ah... not easy.o_O
 
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