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Well, I'm not American so I didn't grow up with these things, and tastes, and I had never even heard of the concept of peanut butter until Sesame Street (a terrific example of public service broadcasting) was shown on TV.

You get used to going without the you travel a lot, although I am loath to forego coffee and will happily pay silly sums of money for something like LavAzza when I have been sent abroad to countries which don't have a coffee culture.
 
Well, I'm not American so I didn't grow up with these things, and tastes, and I had never even heard of the concept of peanut butter until Sesame Street (a terrific example of public service broadcasting) was shown on TV.

You get used to going without the you travel a lot, although I am loath to forego coffee and will happily pay silly sums of money for something like LavAzza when I have been sent abroad to countries which don't have a coffee culture.
Which reminds me. Were you ever sent to far Asia for duties. Specifically Vietnam or Thailand? their coffee culture is interesting in the sense of using milk and an unhealthy amount of sweetened condensed milk.
 
Which reminds me. Were you ever sent to far Asia for duties. Specifically Vietnam or Thailand? their coffee culture is interesting in the sense of using milk and an unhealthy amount of sweetened condensed milk.

No, neither Vietnam nor Thailand - though I would dearly love to visit both of them; other Asian countries, yes.

Actually, I have yet to meet an Asian cuisine that I dislike, and some of them I love.

On the topic of milk, condensed or otherwise, most of the Asian countries I have worked in - and the Caucasus, too - don't understand the concept of fresh milk at all, - dairy is not a part of their diet - and it is almost impossible to obtain it.

Thus, in those countries, I tended to drink my coffee black.

And, while I can forego a lot, the one thing I do miss when I am away for a few months at a time is cheese. Here, at home, or anywhere in Europe, a cheeseboard is - not a luxury, but something I would eat on an almost daily basis, certainly, several times a week.

Abroad, I miss cheese, and, en route home from the train station (having caught the train after the plane had landed) will often request that the taxi stop, and wait for me outside the cheesemonger's while I stock up.

Before my mother developed her advanced Alzheimer's she used to have a cheeseboard ready for me when I arrived home, having visited the cheesemonger that day, or the previous day with a plaintive request for them to give her a selection of cheeses - hard, soft, blue - that they knew I liked. They always obliged.
 
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How does it differ from ordinary coffee?

Seems that it is a pretty dark roast (unsure about types of beans), and it is brewed in this metal pour over brewer directly into a cup containing sweetened condensed milk. It's sweet, creamy, with notes of cocoa, chicory, etc. It is quite different from the way we, in this thread, tend to drink coffee, but I rather enjoy it myself!

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Seems that it is a pretty dark roast (unsure about types of beans), and it is brewed in this metal pour over brewer directly into a cup containing sweetened condensed milk. It's sweet, creamy, with notes of cocoa, chicory, etc. It is quite different from the way we, in this thread, tend to drink coffee, but I rather enjoy it myself!

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Very interesting.

Thanks for the illustrated description.:D
 
Akin to a viscous Turkish coffee sans grounds and very sweet. Served either cold or hot. Former Soviet states used to feed children sweetened condensed milk because it was cheap. Milk was readily available, but it was given to kids for a strong sugar-energy boost in the early mornings. Typical cold climates would require a high calorie meal to start the day off.
 
Seems that it is a pretty dark roast (unsure about types of beans), and it is brewed in this metal pour over brewer directly into a cup containing sweetened condensed milk. It's sweet, creamy, with notes of cocoa, chicory, etc. It is quite different from the way we, in this thread, tend to drink coffee, but I rather enjoy it myself!

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Very interesting, and thanks for the explanation and illustrations.

As I find that I tend to need sugar with some of the more darkly roasted espressos, sweetened condensed milk would probably be a welcome addition to some similar coffees.

Now that you mention it, on my last deployment/period abroad in central Asia, I do recall (for a few weeks) having coffee beans that came from India; we had run out of the standard coffee beans (from Italy) and Indian beans were all that could be sourced at short notice.

Your mention of chicory brought that back, as they did have that flavour. Quite strongly, in fact. Alas, in the absence of condensed - or any other - milk - sugar (in copious amounts) was required.
 
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I have a tea, at the moment, that's herbal and contains a significant amount of chicory. It has the most unusual smell when brewed. It smells like coffee from afar, but isn't when you're near it. It's very smokey. I recall being told it was used during war time rationing in the late 30s and early 40s. There's a distinct difference in coffee flavor when you used sweetened condensed milk vs. milk or cream and sugar. I want to say there's a honeyed flavor minus the floral taste of honey that lends itself to the aftertaste of the goop. Cuban coffee is delightful too. Small portion, strong and very sweet.

I love cooked a 1:1 mixture of sugar and drinking water until the mixture evaporates a bit and cooks past the amber stage. What you'll have sugar syrup that has that lovely burnt sugar flavor which goes so well with coffee. Also not as sweet as simple syrup, but it does impart a nice flavor. I'm quite sure I've ranted about the pros of caramelized simple syrup before.
 
One of the nicest espressos I have ever had was prepared for me two years ago by an Italian colleague, who made espresso, dripped a few drops of the espresso into an already preheated cup, and to which she had already added some sugar. This mixture - the few drops of espresso and the sugar - were briskly beaten for a minute or so into a froth (quite a froth) after which the espresso was poured into the cup. It was delicious.
 
I've seen that done before in a video. For Cuban coffee, if memory serves me correctly. I'm not sure what it does, but it supposedly gives the coffee a thick head of foam. Vigerously beating Turkish coffee brewing in an ibrik will give a light thick, creme like foam that you can scoop into demitasse cups and then slowly pour the coffee onto, with the foam/creme being trapped at the top.
 
I've seen that done before in a video. For Cuban coffee, if memory serves me correctly. I'm not sure what it does, but it supposedly gives the coffee a thick head of foam. Vigerously beating Turkish coffee brewing in an ibrik will give a light thick, creme like foam that you can scoop into demitasse cups and then slowly pour the coffee onto, with the foam/creme being trapped at the top.

My recollection is that it gives the coffee a very elegant thick head of foam (or, sort of crema) and a lovely sweet taste.
 
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I have a tea, at the moment, that's herbal and contains a significant amount of chicory. It has the most unusual smell when brewed. It smells like coffee from afar, but isn't when you're near it. It's very smokey. I recall being told it was used during war time rationing in the late 30s and early 40s. There's a distinct difference in coffee flavor when you used sweetened condensed milk vs. milk or cream and sugar. I want to say there's a honeyed flavor minus the floral taste of honey that lends itself to the aftertaste of the goop. Cuban coffee is delightful too. Small portion, strong and very sweet.

I love cooked a 1:1 mixture of sugar and drinking water until the mixture evaporates a bit and cooks past the amber stage. What you'll have sugar syrup that has that lovely burnt sugar flavor which goes so well with coffee. Also not as sweet as simple syrup, but it does impart a nice flavor. I'm quite sure I've ranted about the pros of caramelized simple syrup before.

I really found interesting and enjoyable your description of the production of that sugar syrup. While I don't use sugar in my coffee that syrup sounds like something that might be used in other foods.

Thanks for the description.:D

Hmmm, too much talk of non-coffee stuff going on recently... Let's fix that with a nice video by the world barista champion of 2003 and 2007 explaining how to make good espresso.


I really enjoyed that video… thanks for putting it up. :D

Aside from the fact that the young lady speaks at a rate of about 22 miles a minute :eek:, I found the information that she provided to be fascinating.
 
I noticed that too, but I suppose she had a lot to say.

Here's another nice video of Gail from Seattle Coffee Gear doing a taste test between glass and metal French Press. I predicted in my mind what her results would be and I ended being correct.


To be honest...the outcome is not at all surprising. The acid in the coffee will effect the interior surface of any material (porcelain, steel, etc.) except glass. The only acid that cannot be stored in glass containers is hydrofluoric acid, which is used to etch glass and must be stored in a container of other material.

I would also guess that the difference in taste that Gail noted, which was small, would be more pronounced if the brewing time were extended, allowing the coffee to remain in contact with the interior of the container for a longer period of time.
 
I have a tea, at the moment, that's herbal and contains a significant amount of chicory. It has the most unusual smell when brewed. It smells like coffee from afar, but isn't when you're near it. It's very smokey. I recall being told it was used during war time rationing in the late 30s and early 40s.

That sounds quite good actually. I had a herbal/chicory "coffee" once (they called it "coffee") that was really tasty. It was rich and smokey with some herbal/spicy hints.
 
Spotted two types of Ethiopian coffee (one, a Yirgacheffe - had been roasted slightly darker, as was explained to me - because it was intended for espresso), along with three types of Kenyan coffee, an intriguing looking Rwandan, and a Colombian, in a local, German owned roaster plus coffee shop today. Fascinating. Some purchases and blending experiments might be in order.

For now, I will hold off on the Whittard's, and sampling their Ethiopian coffee, and instead, will see what further tasting notes @Dave Meadows may have to offer on this topic.

Meanwhile, if I am seriously out of Ethiopian coffee, I can always phone the Ethiopian Coffee Company in London.
 
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I finished the Dessert Oasis beans finally, and so far I really like that particular blend they offered, which was the Colombian one.

This morning I opened Barrington Coffee Mezcal beans and found it to be very good and I could actually taste some of the notes of nougat and caramel in it. This blend was much better than the other sampler bag of (413) from Barrington Coffee.

This afternoon I switched to the Sweet Maria's blend which is also very good. I can taste the difference in this one from the other blends as well and noticed the graham cracker and honey tasting notes they described of it.

But I didn't find the ever elusive donkey hoof quite yet in these blends. o_O
 
But I didn't find the ever elusive donkey hoof quite yet in these blends. o_O

The absence of at least a hint of donkey hoof in the finish of the coffee tasting is a clear demonstration of the limitation of the coffee blenders. These current so-called expert blenders are poor approximations of the skilled blenders of the past. We won't even mention the difficulty on finding blends with an undertone of bat poop.

So disappointing!:mad:
 
The absence of at least a hint of donkey hoof in the finish of the coffee tasting is a clear demonstration of the limitation of the coffee blenders. These current so-called expert blenders are poor approximations of the skilled blenders of the past. We won't even mention the difficulty on finding blends with an undertone of bat poop.

So disappointing!:mad:
The lack of skills possessed by these blenders is abhorrent to say the least. However, my search for the perfect blend of donkey hoof, nougat, caramel, guano and graham cracker continues.
 
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