The La Marzocco GS3 that is shown above lists for about $7500 in many US stores. my experience with a Mini Vivaldi 2 that I have used for 12 years is to practice grinds, temps, pull times etc. Until you get the product you want. There are a lot of variables and cafes pull thousands of shots to my 8 or so a day. But it can be done. Also remember that the espresso machines have parts that might fail. I have taken my 50# machine back to the dealer for repair at least once since I bought it.good read for the beginner:
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Making Espresso at Home Is Kind of a Nightmare—But If You Insist, Here’s How to Do It Well
Making home espresso is hard to do right. But if you really want café-quality drinks, here’s what you need to know.www.nytimes.com
I thought this was an excellent read for me and needed to share!
My first experience with espresso was not 'pleasant'.
I didn't sleep that night, and some part of the second. I have grown to realize the meaning of the word 'moderation'.
Everything in moderation... 😉😂
It was good espresso. I worked at an Italian restaurant, and a chef took a liking to me, and made me an order of sauteed frog legs, and an espresso, large apparently. The 'legs' were wonderful. Espresso took some time to appreciate.
Interesting thread.
Conditions. I only sip one in the early morning. I got an espresso mixed concoction at Starbucks once, and inspite of asking for decaf (which is still stimulating) I apparently received the opposite. It was late in the day. I got a good bit of reading done that night, and finally napped around 6AM. Good that I didn't have to work that day. Live by the sword...Actually, I think that espresso, and red wine, along with a few other beverages, are among those which are something of an acquired taste.
In any case, I now know that - for me - a number of conditions (necessary and/or sufficient) are required to truly enjoy espresso: Personally, I prefer espresso in the morning (or, occasionally, after an excellent dinner with congenial company); other conditions are that I tend to prefer it - or enjoy it more - when consuming it in a country with a warm climate (such as Italy, the Balkans), where there is also a culture of the provision of excellent coffee.
And, unlike other coffees, sometimes, I will take espresso with sugar.
My first experience with espresso was not 'pleasant'.
I didn't sleep that night, and some part of the second. I have grown to realize the meaning of the word 'moderation'.
Everything in moderation... 😉😂
It was good espresso. I worked at an Italian restaurant, and a chef took a liking to me, and made me an order of sauteed frog legs, and an espresso, large apparently. The 'legs' were wonderful. Espresso took some time to appreciate.
Interesting thread.
Conditions. I only sip one in the early morning. I got an espresso mixed concoction at Starbucks once, and inspite of asking for decaf (which is still stimulating) I apparently received the opposite. It was late in the day. I got a good bit of reading done that night, and finally napped around 6AM. Good that I didn't have to work that day. Live by the sword...
gives me all da coffee feelz
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I understand your qualms. But 'local' people work at Starbucks. I tried McDonald's coffee, and OMG!!! Was it passed through dead sheep entrails? It was HORRIFIC!!! It took much of the day to get the retched taste out of my mouth.Actually, I think that espresso, and red wine, along with a few other beverages, are among those which are something of an acquired taste.
In any case, I now know that - for me - a number of conditions (necessary and/or sufficient) are required to truly enjoy espresso: Personally, I prefer espresso in the morning (or, occasionally, after an excellent dinner with congenial company); other conditions are that I tend to prefer it - or enjoy it more - when consuming it in a country with a warm climate (such as Italy, the Balkans), where there is also a culture of the provision of excellent coffee.
And, unlike other coffees, sometimes, I will take espresso with sugar.
To be honest, I wouldn't judge espresso - or any other coffee - by what is offered in Starbucks, as - to my mind - their coffee (thin, bitter, stale), lacks quality.
For a good espresso, go to a small, well regarded coffee shop; anything Balkan, French, or Italian - even Scandinavian, or central European (or owned) - should offer very good quality coffee.
I remember all the weight I gained from their Frappuccinos. Glad I gave them up. So fattening. And Guarana makes my heart do back-flips for some reason. *shrug*gives me all da coffee feelz
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I understand your qualms. But 'local' people work at Starbucks. I tried McDonald's coffee, and OMG!!! Was it passed through dead sheep entrails? It was HORRIFIC!!! It took much of the day to get the retched taste out of my mouth.
Starbucks is fairly harmless, from my limited experience. I used to wait until the PSL came out and drink a few of those, but finding that they are heavy with HFCS, I have switched to the Atomic Pumpkin from New Belgium. It's far more interesting, but this year I did get a hot PSL, just for 'old times'. I'm good...
The 'best' local coffee shop closed here: Family infighting drove the company into the ground at over 1,000MPH. It was spectacular, and resulted in many dull and tedious lawsuits, I imagine. Many people were devastated. I miss their cookies. *shrug* Until someone comes in to challenge the Starbucks megopoly, I'll frequent the local SB at least once a year. Maybe...
We, the wife, had an espresso maker, but it gave it's life in pursuit of 'the best espresso'. I think the wife was imbibing a little too much from the juice of the bean, and it died from over use. Tragedy. She seemed quite a bit more subdued and calm after that. Bah!!!
Gotcha. Yeah, America is known for crap coffee and piss beer. The only thing that is saving the American beer market, for me, is the legion of microbrews making some tasty IPAs and strange stout concoctions.Oh, I fully understand that "local" people work at Starbuck's, but well, firstly, I am European, not American, which means that I have access to very good local coffee shops, secondly, as already mentioned, I dislike the coffee Starbuck's produces (bitter, thin, stale), and thirdly, I deeply dislike their "cannibalism" business model.
Having said all of that, yes, they do attempt to cultivate a pleasant ambience in their coffee shops, but I still shop local for my coffee.
What is a raspberry croissant? OK, I can guess, so is it a normal butter croissant with raspberries in it?
I've had almond croissants and they can be very good. Sometimes they're just normal croissants with almond slices stuck on the outside but it's the ones full of some kind of almond goo in the middle that hit the spot
The best I've had are from Maison Bertaux (Greek Street W1) but they're not cheap. I'm not a fan of the chocolate ones. I'll keep an eye out for the raspberry ones, as I often eat my croissants with raspberry or blackcurrant jam so I reckon I'll like them! They do go well with an espresso.