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Gone are the days when Samsung copied Apple.. They lead by example in hardware design now...

OTOH, they don't have iOS!

True. Samsung has really executed a good job with their phone designs and changing them in the sense of where Apple seems to be behind, but the most important consideration is the platform, it’s either iOS or Android, hardware eventually takes a back seat once the euphoria wears off. But if the S10 looks anything like this, it does look sharp.
 

eyoungren

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Camera Bump doesn’t cut into videos
No, but it does cut into the aesthetics of the device.

I don't generally watch video on my iPhone. I watch on a 55" 4K television, or a Mac. Or an iPad on occasion. So, don't care about the notch.

I DO care about how my phone looks. And the camera bump is as much a problem to me as the notch may be to you.
 

Hernan4651

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What is the phone design that all people, including me, always want?
A full screen phone with small bezels.
So, the camera cutout is closer than a notch to that. But as always we have to take a look at it not only watching renders to determine how it looks
 
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Seanm87

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Looks great. First Samsung phone id actually consider buying.
[doublepost=1543411262][/doublepost]However, where is the ear piece? How do you hear who you’re talking to?
 

AppleB

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Jesus how will I sleep tonight with this earth shattering news.

Damn, My iPhone will be left in the dust.
 

Ralfi

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In-screen fingerprint sensor & beautiful full screen v FaceID & slightly less screen area.

The user experience will differ, but on the visuals from that vid, the S10 looks stunning*

*if true
[doublepost=1543430669][/doublepost]
Yeah, not as gross as the (fugly) camera bump that's been there since the iPhone 6.
:rolleyes:
 
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alpi123

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Looks great. First Samsung phone id actually consider buying.
[doublepost=1543411262][/doublepost]However, where is the ear piece? How do you hear who you’re talking to?

The earpiece is right on the top, well-hidden. It's just so thin you barely see it but for sure is there.
 

kasakka

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I really don't see that it will change anything.

  • It won't have a SoC anywhere near as powerful as Apple's.
  • It won't run iOS so those happy with Apple aren't going to change. Maybe those who are on older Apple phones who are frustrated with Apple pricing will consider it.
  • If the in-screen fingerprint reader requires placing your finger in a specific location instead of working over for example the bottom portion of the display it will just be a less convenient fingerprint reader because you can't find it quickly just by touch alone. FaceID is not perfect but most of the time it works great and the few times it doesn't generally just require you to lift the phone or move up your sunglasses.
  • I don't know if a notch is worse than having a small dot on your screen. The notch only gets in the way viewing video or photos in landscape and I imagine that a small dot cutout would have the same issue. I also wonder how it will be handled in software.
  • If they won't hop on Google's badly implemented gesture navigation, pushing the action buttons to the very bottom of the screen might make for some awkward thumb gymnastics when using one handed. The chin on current phones actually helps a bit for that by pushing those buttons up from where you are holding the phone.
 

nickchallis92

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We're at the point where Samsung Android phones are super refined. They've nailed the design and Android has zero compromises.

Yet people still buy iPhones because of silly fear mongering, well represented on this thread.
 

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I really don't see that it will change anything.

  • It won't have a SoC anywhere near as powerful as Apple's.
  • It won't run iOS so those happy with Apple aren't going to change. Maybe those who are on older Apple phones who are frustrated with Apple pricing will consider it.
  • If the in-screen fingerprint reader requires placing your finger in a specific location instead of working over for example the bottom portion of the display it will just be a less convenient fingerprint reader because you can't find it quickly just by touch alone. FaceID is not perfect but most of the time it works great and the few times it doesn't generally just require you to lift the phone or move up your sunglasses.
  • I don't know if a notch is worse than having a small dot on your screen. The notch only gets in the way viewing video or photos in landscape and I imagine that a small dot cutout would have the same issue. I also wonder how it will be handled in software.
  • If they won't hop on Google's badly implemented gesture navigation, pushing the action buttons to the very bottom of the screen might make for some awkward thumb gymnastics when using one handed. The chin on current phones actually helps a bit for that by pushing those buttons up from where you are holding the phone.
I have the max but I really don't see the point of boasting about the A12 chip because there just isn't anything on a mobile phone that needs that kind of computing power. The Snapdragon 845 is plenty powerful. As will the next Snapdragon chip. We've been at the point for several years where the processing power is far greater than anything we can currently do with our phone.
 

kasakka

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I have the max but I really don't see the point of boasting about the A12 chip because there just isn't anything on a mobile phone that needs that kind of computing power. The Snapdragon 845 is plenty powerful. As will the next Snapdragon chip. We've been at the point for several years where the processing power is far greater than anything we can currently do with our phone.

I totally agree with you, but it is still certainly a differentiator.
 

Ralfi

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Yet people still buy iPhones because of silly fear mongering, well represented on this thread.
What are you talking about?

I use IOS because it suits my needs, phone & tablet-wise, but love what Samsung are doing.

All these phones will look very similar in a few years. Doesn’t bother me if the iPhone takes longer to get there, nor should it bother Android users if the situation were reversed.

Those turning it into a slinging match have bigger issues...
 

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I have the max but I really don't see the point of boasting about the A12 chip because there just isn't anything on a mobile phone that needs that kind of computing power. The Snapdragon 845 is plenty powerful. As will the next Snapdragon chip. We've been at the point for several years where the processing power is far greater than anything we can currently do with our phone.
I think from the snippets they said during the Keynote that right now that computing power is largely being tapped for computational photography and AR. Of course Huawei and Google are more than matching them on the computational photography, regardless of relative processor advantages.

I’m not really sure what the state of AR affairs is on smartphones. The few times I’ve tried AR applications I found even the large displays a bit confining for AR. I would have preferred to use AR on a small tablet. Maybe iPad Mini sized.
 
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Tsepz

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All this excitement over click bait rendering.
LOL, but aren't you a supposed YouTube channel owner posting endless clickbait links to your Unbox Therapy page? Hehe

Honestly though, I just can't wait to see the devices, I hate rumors.

Also waiting to see if Samsung really do remove the Headphones Jack, iPhone fanboys around here have been claiming the Galaxy S8, Galaxy Note8, S9 and Galaxy Note9 were going to come without a Headphone Jack, maybe Samsung will finally give them this wish, it's like the 1 straw they have left that they cling on to desperately, very sad

I just hope it's a TRUE anniversary device that culminates all the major advances in Smartphones over the past decade.
I would be glad if Samsung really took a note from Huawei's book and:

- brought back the IR Blaster
- Brought Super Charging (0-100% in less than 1h30mins)
- Wider array of cameras on the back (my Mate 20 Pro has been a revelation to me coming from the already amazing Note8)
- I wish they would bring back the Wolfson DAC in their phones, the OG Galaxy S was one of thr best sounding devices, so was the Galaxy S3 Exynos and Galaxy S4 Exynos.

And then continued with what they did in the S9 and Note9 with memory expansion, best displays etc...along with making a true edge-to-edge display without a Notch. :)
 

Ralfi

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it's like the 1 straw they have left that they cling on to desperately, very sad
Sure is sad....how you give them any credence.

Curious, if I want Samsung to get rid of the headphone jack so as to boost the progression of wireless Bluetooth earphones for everyone’s benefit, does that make me one of these Apple fanbois you speak of?
 

Tsepz

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Sure is sad....how you give them any credence.

Curious, if I want Samsung to get rid of the headphone jack so as to boost the progression of wireless Bluetooth earphones for everyone’s benefit, does that make me one of these Apple fanbois you speak of?

How does leaving the Headphone Jack there affect the Progression of Bluetooth Headphones??? Please explain that first.

May I remind you that We have had Bluetooth audio for well over a decade now in our phones, my old Sony Ericssons had it, and every year they improved it bit by bit.

Bluetooth Audio has been improving right along with the Headphones Jack being there, you make it seem as if the usage of the Headphone jack hampers any progression in BT Audio.

BT Audio still has its limitations, so keeping the headphones jack allows those who want to continue using it to do so, while the manufacturers continue to get BT Audio to a point where it's far ahead of wired, if that will ever happen.
 

Ralfi

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How does leaving the Headphone Jack there affect the Progression of Bluetooth Headphones??? Please explain that first.
If every major manufacturer ditched it, then companies could focus more of their time/$ on wireless audio.

Do you not see a future where wireless, high quality music streaming is the norm? The sooner we get rid of the headphone jack, the sooner we’ll get there, IMO.
 

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I have the max but I really don't see the point of boasting about the A12 chip because there just isn't anything on a mobile phone that needs that kind of computing power. The Snapdragon 845 is plenty powerful. As will the next Snapdragon chip. We've been at the point for several years where the processing power is far greater than anything we can currently do with our phone.
As someone who plans to keep my phone for 3 years, I like that my iPhone X still feels like a brand new phone. To me the main advantage of the performance is future-proofing the phone.
 

Tsepz

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If every major manufacturer ditched it, then companies could focus more of their time/$ on wireless audio.

Do you not see a future where wireless, high quality music streaming is the norm? The sooner we get rid of the headphone jack, the sooner we’ll get there, IMO.

Lol, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever mate. As I understand it Bluetooth standards and the technology in general are managed by Bluetooth SIG, a completely separate entity that has all sorts of companies/organizations like Samsung that contribute to the development of the technology, they have teams setup for it already and have set budgets etc... Set aside for it.

What you are saying is like saying all OEMs should ditch GSM and focus on WiFi Only, while they at it they should ditch Wired charging for wireless charging, when they are already in development of better Wireless Charging tech they cannot just ditch wired charging, same for Wired vs. BT Audio.

You cannot just ditch one good technology for one that is still much further back in Development.
 
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