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dansgil

macrumors regular
Aug 17, 2005
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If Apple makes glossy screens standard, I'll be really annoyed. Anyways, I hope Apple will put a DL Superdrive in the 15". I highly doubt that it will have 802.11n - it isn't even standardized yet.
 

Erasmus

macrumors 68030
Jun 22, 2006
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Australia
If Apple ends up putting a super graphics card in the MBP that gobbles the juice, is there any reason why if you want better battery life, if ur just typing or something, why you can't throttle back the card to a minimum? I realise Apple doesn't have a tool for this, but is there any chance of this in an update, or couldn't we just use an ATI app?
Pre-emptive Cheers for any response

EDIT: What about shutting it down completely and using Quartz (Extreme, whatever) or something so the CPU does the work? Is this even possible, or practical?
 

vv-tim

macrumors 6502
May 24, 2006
366
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Erasmus said:
If Apple ends up putting a super graphics card in the MBP that gobbles the juice, is there any reason why if you want better battery life, if ur just typing or something, why you can't throttle back the card to a minimum? I realise Apple doesn't have a tool for this, but is there any chance of this in an update, or couldn't we just use an ATI app?
Pre-emptive Cheers for any response

EDIT: What about shutting it down completely and using Quartz (Extreme, whatever) or something so the CPU does the work? Is this even possible, or practical?

From what I've heard, the X1600 in the 17" MBP actually throttles itself. Could be just a rumor, but I think that's what's been said. I can't confirm it as I have a 15"... but yeah.

An "ATI Tool" for Mac OS X would be lovely. Then I could underclock my X1600 to 150mhz or so when I'm just browsing the web and overclock to 430mhz when I'm playing WoW.
 

Demon Hunter

macrumors 68020
Mar 30, 2004
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vv-tim said:
An "ATI Tool" for Mac OS X would be lovely. Then I could underclock my X1600 to 150mhz or so when I'm just browsing the web and overclock to 430mhz when I'm playing WoW.

I thought one existed already?
 

Erasmus

macrumors 68030
Jun 22, 2006
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Australia
The name "ATIcellerator" comes to mind. I think that's it. It would no doubt be found at the ATI website. I don't have a link (sorry I'm lazy) but I know they have a whole lot of software there that I found. (Or maybe that's nVidia???)

But it's still ATI software, and therefore is automatically inferior to Apple software. Although the Apple software doesn't exist. Hopefully yet.

Come on Apple! A novel way to improve Battery Life, while making your customers happier has got to be a good thing!
 

Josias

macrumors 68000
Mar 10, 2006
1,908
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15.4" ($1999):
2.0 GHz Merom (T7200)
2x512 GB RAM (upgradeable to 2 GB)
128 MB X1600
8x DL drive + FW800
Magnetic Latch and integrated keyboard
1680x1050 glossy:D (no matte option)
100 GB 5.400 rpm. HDD
68 Wh battery

15.4" ($2399):
2.16 GHz Merom (T7300)
1x1 GB RAM (upgradeable to 2 GB)
256 MB X1600
8x DL drive + FW800
Magnetic Latch and integrated keyboard
1680x1050 glossy:D (no matte option)
120 GB 5.400 rpm. HDD
68 Wh battery

17" ($2749):
2.33 GHz Merom (T7400)
1x1 GB RAM (upgradeable to 2 GB)
256 MB X1800 (512 MB option)
Magnetic Latch and integrated keyboard
1920x1200 glossy:D (no matte option)
160 GB 5.400 rpm. HDD
75 Wh battery
0.9" (possible duo to integrated keyboard and thinner SD's).
:D
 

Erasmus

macrumors 68030
Jun 22, 2006
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Australia
Josias said:
17" ($2749):
2.33 GHz Merom (T7400)
1x1 GB RAM (upgradeable to 2 GB)
256 MB X1800 (512 MB option)
Magnetic Latch and integrated keyboard
1920x1200 glossy:D (no matte option)
160 GB 5.400 rpm. HDD
75 Wh battery
0.9" (possible duo to integrated keyboard and thinner SD's).

"Now THAT's what I'm talkin' about!"
to quote from my favourite TV Show Stargate.

I hope you are right.
I'm not usually a praying man, but Jobs, if you are out there, Listen To Josias! He gives hope to people like us.
How bout 4GB RAM?
I love X1800 and Merom 2.33
 

steelfist

macrumors 6502a
Aug 10, 2005
577
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the next rev will have improved cooling and a small cpu speed increase. up 200 mhz. i would be very pissed if the macbook pros are still hot.
 

vv-tim

macrumors 6502
May 24, 2006
366
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Erasmus said:
The name "ATIcellerator" comes to mind. I think that's it. It would no doubt be found at the ATI website. I don't have a link (sorry I'm lazy) but I know they have a whole lot of software there that I found. (Or maybe that's nVidia???)

But it's still ATI software, and therefore is automatically inferior to Apple software. Although the Apple software doesn't exist. Hopefully yet.

Come on Apple! A novel way to improve Battery Life, while making your customers happier has got to be a good thing!

ATIcellerator doesn't work for the X1600 right now :/
 

poppe

macrumors 68020
Apr 29, 2006
2,248
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Woodland Hills
Hopefully we can get 4 gbs of ram... Or do we have to wait for a new board?... that'd be lame...

On the ATI as far as I know the only way to overclock it is to run windows... but hey I dont even have a mac yet so what do I know.
 

Demon Hunter

macrumors 68020
Mar 30, 2004
2,284
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Erasmus said:
It would no doubt be found at the ATI website.

Not made by ATI.

steelfist said:
the next rev will have improved cooling and a small cpu speed increase. up 200 mhz. i would be very pissed if the macbook pros are still hot.

I'm afraid you're in for a rude awakening.

poppe said:
Hopefully we can get 4 gbs of ram... Or do we have to wait for a new board?... that'd be lame...

I think it already supports 4GB, but the SO-DIMMs are too expensive (even as an option).
 

Erasmus

macrumors 68030
Jun 22, 2006
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Australia
vv-tim said:
ATIcellerator doesn't work for the X1600 right now :/

Ah well. Sorry to get ur hopes up. I only thought it did. If you change the clock in Windows, (which poppe said u could) will that change the clock in Mac? Obviously this would drive you bonkers (restarting all the time, and doesn't xp take almost a minute to start up?), but at least it would be something.
 

mode

macrumors member
Apr 25, 2006
53
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I don't know whether or not heat output would make this a feasible option, but I would love for the MacBook Pro to be released with a redesigned case in the style of the regular MacBooks, in black and white. Especially if this would actually bring a reduction in heat issues and better distribute it out of the notebook, moreso than the current brushed steel casing.
 

freestyleguy128

macrumors regular
Original poster
Jun 29, 2006
106
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Virginia
mode said:
I don't know whether or not heat output would make this a feasible option, but I would love for the MacBook Pro to be released with a redesigned case in the style of the regular MacBooks, in black and white. Especially if this would actually bring a reduction in heat issues and better distribute it out of the notebook, moreso than the current brushed steel casing.
sane here.
 

freestyleguy128

macrumors regular
Original poster
Jun 29, 2006
106
0
Virginia
mode said:
I don't know whether or not heat output would make this a feasible option, but I would love for the MacBook Pro to be released with a redesigned case in the style of the regular MacBooks, in black and white. Especially if this would actually bring a reduction in heat issues and better distribute it out of the notebook, moreso than the current brushed steel casing.
same here.
 

FragTek

macrumors 6502
May 29, 2006
377
1
Fredericksburg, VA
Hector said:
we are likely to see the x1600 stay as nothing newer in that power envelope unless they switch to the 7600 but there's not much point and it's more power hungry.
Sure there is... Mobility x1800 or x1800xt which either one would PWNNNNN! I'm completely happy with my x1600 though, fabulous gpu for this setup.
 

mikes63737

macrumors 65816
Jul 26, 2005
1,154
339
Support for 4 GB of RAM would be nice.
Magnetic Latch
Rotating iSight maybe
160 GB HD
Merom Processors

But all I think will really happen is a magnetic latch and Merom processors.
 

FragTek

macrumors 6502
May 29, 2006
377
1
Fredericksburg, VA
mikes63737 said:
Support for 4 GB of RAM would be nice.
Magnetic Latch
Rotating iSight maybe
160 GB HD
Merom Processors

But all I think will really happen is a magnetic latch and Merom processors.
Redesigned case is definately on the horizon too, I wouldn't count that out yet :)
 

Silentwave

macrumors 68000
May 26, 2006
1,615
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Erasmus said:
"Now THAT's what I'm talkin' about!"
to quote from my favourite TV Show Stargate.

I hope you are right.
I'm not usually a praying man, but Jobs, if you are out there, Listen To Josias! He gives hope to people like us.
How bout 4GB RAM?
I love X1800 and Merom 2.33


No Don't listen, put 2.33 merom in the 15.4" as well, support for >2GB RAM (give us a 3rd or 4th slot), and we MUST HAVE MATTE SCREENS AVAILABLE.

Matte is very important for people who are creative professionals who want to see a truer output than what a glossy screen will show (it oversaturates and makes it too contrasty), and I don't want glare! my last notebook had a glossy screen, it was near impossible to clean and even worse in terms of glare.
 

ricgnzlzcr

macrumors 6502a
Jun 7, 2005
802
0
I just want to see merom and the computer to be less buggy and hot. I know it won't ever be very cool, but maybe the warmth of a powerbook would be appropriate
 

Erasmus

macrumors 68030
Jun 22, 2006
2,756
300
Australia
Silentwave said:
No Don't listen, put 2.33 merom in the 15.4" as well, support for >2GB RAM (give us a 3rd or 4th slot), and we MUST HAVE MATTE SCREENS AVAILABLE.

Matte is very important for people who are creative professionals who want to see a truer output than what a glossy screen will show (it oversaturates and makes it too contrasty), and I don't want glare! my last notebook had a glossy screen, it was near impossible to clean and even worse in terms of glare.

Mip. Yes, Apple should definitely keep the matte screens (although I haven't seen one of the glossy ones, so I don't know what they are really like. They could be absolutely awesome, without any glare, I don't know.)
And fine, put in the 2.33 and 4gb RAM. Just don't deny us our 512mb x1800.:mad:

Listen to your desciples Stevie J. and bless us with your hardware.
 
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