Expose is Back in Mountain Lion!

[airlied]

a bug related with this

you will activate a bug if you uncheck "group windows by applications"

uncheck it (èxpose is back), then add a desktop in mission control (just make sure you have more than one desktop when you go to mission control), then try to move a windows from one desktop to another......

u will find your mac stuck on mission control, you cannot back to desktops, cannot do anything, force restart is the only way to solve it...

 

[Krazy Bill]

but hey, it's back! The thing that kept me in Snow Leopard all this time.
Here's a screenshot : http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/screenshot20120504at948.png

Your image illustrates the shoddiness of Apple's remedy. That lone desktop1 icon at top is a waste of screen real estate. Also, still no clue if there are minimized windows anywhere.

Ok, no more overlapping windows. But Expose' would be truly useful if it did indeed work like it used to:

1.) No redundant "desktops" at the top
2.) Minimized windows showing at the very bottom.

Perhaps a 3rd gesture/keystroke just to show the desktops? That would be perfect but wait!... This would also mean the old style Spaces/Expose would be back and we can't have that!! Silly me.

Maybe I'm approaching this wrong. if we all suggested this on the iOS forum... eventually it will make its way to OSX.

 

[tkermit]

The only thing I miss is now is the symmetry. They're not re-sized to rectangles; they remain the same shape.

The way it's supposed to be (pre-Snow Leopard)

Exactly. It was a bad idea to make them all the same size in SL's Exposé. Apple got it right on their first try, when they introduced Exposé with Panther (where minimized windows didn't show either, by the way).

 

[baryon]

Is anyone using "Show Dashboard as a Space"? That's another stupid feature I think. I mean, what if you're on Desktop 6, and you have to swipe your way left about 6 times? That's freaking stupid! Is it me or did Apple just want to ruin everything that was good about OS X? I mean, there's an option for it, which is great, but I wish we could just revert to the Leopard way of things, exactly...

 

[Ritsuka]

There is a key on every apple keyboard, no need to swipe six times

 

[mabaker]

Well, well. That was unexpected.

 

[Simplicated]

There is a key on every apple keyboard, no need to swipe six times

On the newer keyboard it's the Launchpad key.

 

[Cougarcat]

On the newer keyboard it's the Launchpad key.

You can reconfigure the key.

Edit: apparently Keyboard Shortcuts doesn't let you change the key (odd) but there are third-party utilities that will.

 

[haravikk]

Hmm, this still seems like a half-assed solution to the problem. Why not just make groups clickable so they expand once you've clicked them? Or make it so clicking them switches to application exposé for that program.

I dunno, while it's good to see them resolving unloved changes, it doesn't really seem like the solution that Mission Control needs; it should be something elegant that doesn't require you to go out of your way and find the preference pane after deciding that your style of working (lots of windows) isn't suited to grouping, this being after you've found out that it's possible to ungroup them.

Click to expand would be much more elegant, and anyone can use it. I mean, the simple fact is that the grouping saves space, which is great, but it's also fundamentally unusable without the ability to expand them when you need to. So why can't we just have sensible grouping instead of a choice of stupid-grouping or no grouping at all?

 

[baryon]

What I would like them to add now is a way to see desktops in CONTEXT. That is, the desktops on the right of the current one to appear on the right of the current one, and the ones on the left to appear on the left. And i'm not talking about the top thumbnails, but rather the large Desktop preview in the middle. I want to see other desktops on either side of that desktop, as it would make it easier to figure out what is where relative to where I am now, rather than to look for the faint white border around the thumbnail that represents the current desktop, and then try to make out the tiny crappy thumbnail previews that don't even have their windows Exposé'd...

Hmm, this still seems like a half-assed solution to the problem. Why not just make groups clickable so they expand once you've clicked them? Or make it so clicking them switches to application exposé for that program.

I dunno, while it's good to see them resolving unloved changes, it doesn't really seem like the solution that Mission Control needs; it should be something elegant that doesn't require you to go out of your way and find the preference pane after deciding that your style of working (lots of windows) isn't suited to grouping, this being after you've found out that it's possible to ungroup them.

Click to expand would be much more elegant, and anyone can use it. I mean, the simple fact is that the grouping saves space, which is great, but it's also fundamentally unusable without the ability to expand them when you need to. So why can't we just have sensible grouping instead of a choice of stupid-grouping or no grouping at all?

Yes, that would make sense, but I would only accept it if that was also an option. Perhaps still allow windows to be permanently ungrouped, but allow ungrouping with a 2-finger swipe even when they are grouped by default.

When I want to switch from one thing to another, I am always looking for a specific WINDOW, not an app. I don't care about apps and I don't like the app-centric approach. I think based on content not container, so having to ungroup windows would be an extra unnecessary step. But if you work with a large number of applications with many windows each, then it can make sense.

 

[Cougarcat]

What I would like them to add now is a way to see desktops in CONTEXT...

That's an excellent idea. You should give Apple feedback.

 

[leman]

Well, I am happy that this feature is optional. I much prefer having my windows grouped by application. Needless to say, I like Mission Control much better than the old Expose, which I found very difficult to navigate.

 

[WSR]

Well, I am happy that this feature is optional. I much prefer having my windows grouped by application. Needless to say, I like Mission Control much better than the old Expose, which I found very difficult to navigate.

This is what most of us are asking for, the choice to do things the way that works best for us.

 

[james948]

There's a terminal command to get rid of the dashboard altogether. I've never used it. It's like the guy on another thread said; it's just more junk to turn off.

I wish someone would make a GUI like 'lion tweaks' but ALL of this stuff.
"Getridofthejunk.app"

 

[iVoid]

I was very pleased to read about the epic comeback of the biggest wasted feature that I decided to install the dp3 on an external hdd, just so to see it! Well, it needs a bit of polishing, like there are no names of the applications depicted, even when hovering the mouse over the windows, but hey, it's back! The thing that kept me in Snow Leopard all this time.
Here's a screenshot : http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/screenshot20120504at948.png

That definitely does look better. But I still miss being able to drag windows between spaces without having to switch to the space I'm moving a window from.

Leopard and SL were so much easier to use than Mission Control.

 

[Ddyracer]

There's a terminal command to get rid of the dashboard altogether. I've never used it. It's like the guy on another thread said; it's just more junk to turn off.

I wish someone would make a GUI like 'lion tweaks' but ALL of this stuff.
"Getridofthejunk.app"

lol, thats actually pretty good idea. Or an app called makeLionlookmorelikeSlowLeopard.app

 

[throAU]

Hmm, this still seems like a half-assed solution to the problem. Why not just make groups clickable so they expand once you've clicked them?

Swiping up on a group in Lion already does this.

 

[yojitani]

All they need to do now is fix multi-monitor support and I may upgrade. This is certainly good news indeed. I'm glad Apple have realized their mistake.

Don't hold your breath.

 

[haravikk]

Swiping up on a group in Lion already does this.

Great, so how do you do that without a trackpad?

 

[Paint.It.Black]

Great, so how do you do that without a trackpad?

Hit spacebar

 

[MrAppleseed]

Great, so how do you do that without a trackpad?

Scroll up using the mouse (pressing the spacebar triggers a different thing).

 

[wikus]

Awesome!

I wonder how all those anti-choice apple worshippers feel right now, the ones that ridiculed every person who made the complaint of apple not giving customization/control in system preference (of all places?!).

I really want to rub it in their face right now.

 

[Sdreed91]

Awesome!

I wonder how all those anti-choice apple worshippers feel right now, the ones that ridiculed every person who made the complaint of apple not giving customization/control in system preference (of all places?!).

I really want to rub it in their face right now.

Okay. Why? Do you need to be a sore winner? Or are you just looking to argue with someone?

I mean great Apple brought it back they appeased to the masses but no need to "rub it in their face". Maybe I am wrong and that is just maturity talking, who knows?

 

[wikus]

Okay. Why? Do you need to be a sore winner? Or are you just looking to argue with someone?

I mean great Apple brought it back they appeased to the masses but no need to "rub it in their face". Maybe I am wrong and that is just maturity talking, who knows?

Its to give the anti-choice worshippers a dose of reality. There have been *many* threads on the issue of expose and each thread had even more individuals ridiculing those that wanted the option to have it back, ignoring it as an issue, downplaying the complaints made, etc. It was arrogance at its finest.

The responses were more or less in this tone;

'No, Apple doesnt need to fix anything, its not an issue, get used to it, expose has nothing to do with workflow, etc'

It was pretty disgusting.

 

[Sdreed91]

Its to give the anti-choice worshippers a dose of reality. There have been *many* threads on the issue of expose and each thread had even more individuals ridiculing those that wanted the option to have it back, ignoring it as an issue, downplaying the complaints made, etc. It was arrogance at its finest.

The responses were more or less in this tone;

'No, Apple doesnt need to fix anything, its not an issue, get used to it, expose has nothing to do with workflow, etc'

It was pretty disgusting.

There is no reason not to be happy. Apple is allowing choice now. However, just my opinion here but there is no need to gloat. Thats all I was saying.