Oddly the standard iPhones are usually better than the Pro models in terms of pure measured modulations, so that may still be true this generation.
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I am from Germany, here is Thursday morning. Tomorrow is Friday.😎
I am from Germany, here is Thursday morning. Tomorrow is Friday.😎
The toggle looks like it makes a positive impact in this review:
Here’s to hoping the only perceptible flicker is a small essential dip to sync with the OLED’s refresh rate. 🤞
It does also help that PWM is at least becoming more mainstream and being mentioned in more reviews than usual.
Here’s to hoping the only perceptible flicker is a small essential dip to sync with the OLED’s refresh rate. 🤞
It does also help that PWM is at least becoming more mainstream and being mentioned in more reviews than usual.
I agree.
Unfortunately, the rest of your comment is wrong. Every pixel on an OLED screen has the same pulse width. PWM only adjusts global brightness, not per-pixel brightness. Also, the pulse depth is always 100% (it drops to pure black).
Pulse Width for OLED is kind of equivalent to to adjusting the backlight on an LCD that doesn't have local dimming. It's a global multiplier for individual pixel brightness.
Plasma displays use different pulse widths and frequency on individual pixels. I believe they function more like how you incorrectly believe OLED displays function.
Bad news. No DC dimming we hoped for!
It does some sort of smoothing judging by that pic, though I don't quite understand
UPD: sorry I didn't see it has alredy been posted, gotta check next time.
UPD2X: as a recovery for posting what was already posted, here is a video I found where they tell in better details about Apple's PWM smoothing approach. Enable subtitles and English translation for your convenience, I myself am not proficient in Chinese
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I don't think so. Apple explicitly advertises it as the same display across the line w/o any difference
iPhone 17 has exactly the same screen with 17 pro ? If so no reason for me to prefer the pro.
Apparently. IF the Pro, by some miracle, works for me, I will return it for a Black 17 as I didn't really want Deep Blue but got locked in based on the original rumour it was for Pro only.
Specifications seem to be identical, here is side-by-side comparison sheet on Apple's website. Only differences are resolution and size
This is interesting. I've got an Apple Watch Series 6 and it doesn't bother me at all. Every other Apple OLED product has been completely unusable for me (and Apple LCD products with more recent iOS updates - anything after late iOS 15/early iOS 16)
I feel like when I glance at newer Apple Watches on peoples' wrists something is "different" in a bad way. But the early Apple watches seem completely comfortable and I'm extremely sensitive to just about anything "new" at this point.
What role does Pro Motion play, if any? Would locking the refresh rate to 60Hz stabilize things? I don’t see many people bringing up the Pro Motion fluctuations in terms of it may affect device comfort, given they theoretically can go as low as 1Hz.
iOS 15 was the last usable version of iOS I’ve been able to use on my iPhone 13. I did test iOS 18 on a separate iPhone 13 and it was much more tolerable than iOS 16/17.
Dithering would be the only flicker technique Apple could modify like that (GPU dithering) within a software update, correct?
Good question. I know that OLED TVs can flicker in VRR mode when the frame rate in a game is very inconsistent. That flicker isn't caused by the black bars between frames, though. I don't know if there's any interplay between PWM and ProMotion on phones.
Do iPhone OLED displays currently manipulate the brightness of each pixel in a way other than changing the duty cycle?
New pwm test video from bilibili https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV18GWMzSE8k/
I’m afraid the pwm feature is limited to low brightness.
I’m afraid the pwm feature is limited to low brightness.
It’s not looking too conclusive yet… my optimism went from 60%/40% that the PWM toggle would work to 40%/60%.
Hopefully we’re on the side where iPhone 17 becomes usable for PWM/flicker-sensitive users.
It's hard to see the video on my iPhone 11, but it looked like nothing changed with the toggle on.
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Once the function is turned on, the rate in which it flashed at 100% stays the same when the brightness is reduced.
Basically if flashes the same in all brightness scenarios rather than becoming worse.
If you manage with OLED on full brightness in the past, you are onto a winner. For everyone else, its another year to wait.
Yikes!
I mean.. the wording on the setting is really not sitting well with me. Why on earth would Apple choose those words for the PWM settings toggle? Do they not expect blowback from users and or the media?
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Not from the media. Not from the mainstream users. Only a couple people will complain. I don't think they truly understand PWM and what it effect it has on us.
It’s the very reason they didn’t announce it in the release.
Had it been a full solution they’ve have made it a major part of the phones capability:
Let the iPhone arrive first before everything is demonized again.😎
I just saw them in the store. I will wait user reviews before purchase. If it wasn’t for PWM i would instantly go for iphone air. I don’t care about the battery. This is the best looking smartphone i ve ever seen. It’s even more beautiful when you hold it. Amazing device. More premium feel even than the pros!