So your guess is they somehow hacked face ID and the son was there when she set it up to fool it?
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iPhone X Face ID is crap....
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So your guess is they somehow hacked face ID and the son was there when she set it up to fool it?
If you say so...
Of course
seeing as it’s the only example of it being fooled
Either that or it’s a faulty unit
I really doubt that.
Even Apple indicates that kids can fool it very easy and its not reliable at all when it comes to kids faces.
So explain to me how is that better than fingerprint tech and its supposedly 1 to a million chances that it lets in the wrong person?
Fingerprint scanner can be fooled or hacked as there were videos when it first came out. It can happen. Something like this isn't impossible.
Its a lot harder to hack a fingerprint.
With FaceID all one needs is a $150 mask and you're in.
https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/13/16642690/bkav-iphone-x-faceid-mask
Which is a joke. Nobody is going to pay to make a mask worth between 150-300 quid just to fool your device. So really it's kind of irrelevant.
Certainly when hacking a fingerprint would actually be easier to do than to make a 3D scan of somebody's face
Obviously you don't like face ID or iris scanning to unlock devices but like it or not it's the future of tech and all fingerprint scanners will be gone over time
Its easier to make a fake mask than copy and reproduce someones fingerprint and get it to work with touchID.
Its not that I dont like Face ID, I actually hate it
But if that is the future then its not going to be the future of what I use.
Apple doesn't tell me what I buy or what I like to use. I pay and purchase what I like and what works better for me
Well It won't be just apple. The rest of the market is likely heading this route as well. I could maybe see google not going this route but samsung is one company who will certainly put a far bigger focus on iris scanning of their own.Its easier to make a fake mask than copy and reproduce someones fingerprint and get it to work with touchID.
Its not that I dont like Face ID, I actually hate it
But if that is the future then its not going to be the future of what I use.
Apple doesn't tell me what I buy or what I like to use. I pay and purchase what I like and what works better for me
At least it can’t be fooled by a picture. Now there is a more secure setting of face unlock which can’t be fooled by a picture but it only works about 40 % of the time so it becomes a bit pointless.
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Someone that knows you will have other ways of getting into your phone if they really wanted to. I don’t mind my family having access to my phone. My work colleagues could not get into my phone because Face ID is secure enough. A thief on the street also could not and that’s who I’d want to protect my phone from.
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Yes but the common thief on the street wouldn’t be able to get a mask because they wouldn’t know what you looked like. Again it’s only someone that knows you that could obtain something like that and they would have other ways of getting into your phone. Also I don’t mind my family members having access to my phone. I’ve often handed it to them unlock so they can use it to do various things.
Face ID sucks blah blah blah. Ok so buy the iPhone 8 Plus then if you want Touch ID. Problem solved. You want first gen tech? Be ready for early adopter issues. Gen 1 Touch ID wasn’t nearly as fast or reliable as the current iteration. That’s how tech works.
It was really reliable for me though. I had no complaints with it on the 5S. I’ve heard good things about Face ID so hopefully it will also work really well for me. Usually I wouldn’t have too much reservations it’s only because I’ve used face unlock and iris scanning on the note 8 and found them both very inconsistent or the point I turned them off that I’m concerned.
My understanding is that the tech in Face ID is different as it uses a depth camera (dot projector) to map facial structure. This does not exist on Android.
It’s not the same technology, so comparing what you have experienced with a Samsung product to Apple products is incorrect.
Same here (complex password). They actually tried to disable TouchID when the 5S came out! Fortunately that wasn't possible.
I am a fence-sitter on the X. The hardware is brilliant and the notch is a non-issue for me. (Beats hell out of bezels.) At their best the gestures make the phone disappear, but for me some of the gestures are very intrusive and really hurt the UX. (Welcome to life, you have to take the good with the bad.) But what I want to say is that if you set up FaceID correctly (see my post above), it should be extremely reliable and it's as fast as (but for me not faster than) TouchID - just different, and you may or may not like the difference.
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I have thought a lot about that in the last month. I often feel the same, but when I think about how the phone hardware works and how we use the phone, I'm not sure what the alternative would be. So, I'm agreeing with you, but have no idea what would work better and still work with the hardware and the UI.
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There's just no credible evidence that this is true ("fooled very easy. Any of your siblings or even total strangers that resemble you a little can unlock your device")
Look, I've been reading your posts for years. Honestly, I know you are smarter and a more critical thinker than to believe that stuff.
In any case, it simply isn't true.
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That is actually both humorous and brilliantly insightful. I never thought about it that way, but it's absolutely true.
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That is one of the few cases that Apple acknowledges. This is absolutely not your alleged case of total strangers who look vaguely like you unlocking your phone.
Yea there’s a trick that if u slide the screen up just a bit it try’s again but I feel like there needs to be an update to make Face ID scan stays a bit longer and keeps trying when it sees a face until it matches because this is annoying not reliable at all like Apple said
For now all the blogs and youtubers where right Face ID did fail on that event and it’s if it’s not gonna be reliable on the first try then it needs to keep scanning
[doublepost=1513522933][/doublepost]So yea Face ID ahold keep trying at least 2-3 times cuz Touch ID kept scanning finger after fails then it would ask for code
Yours maybe hasn't, but also any iPhone with touch ID hasn't been accessed either
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I dont know, Im just presenting what I saw and heard.
Personally I just dont trust face ID.
There's many videos and stories online.
This is not the only video with it not working as its supposed to.
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Yours maybe hasn't, but also any iPhone with touch ID hasn't been accessed either
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I dont know, Im just presenting what I saw and heard.
Personally I just dont trust face ID.
There's many videos and stories online.
This is not the only video with it not working as its supposed to.
And there is a lot of credible discussion about spoofing TouchID.
In real life, I don't buy the hype about FaceID. Over Thanksgiving we had a few dozen family, mostly siblings and first cousins, together, and three FaceID phones. One belongs to my older son, who was sometimes mistaken for his younger brother's twin when they were younger. None of the phones was fooled by any of the other people's faces. I sort of understand that a young child might look enough like a parent to unlock the parent's phone (though that actually surprises me), but in real life I just don't think there's a meaningful probability of theft.
If I think from a perspective of civil liberties or outright criminal activity, I think FaceID is potentially much more troubling than TouchID, in the sense that especially if you had Attention Awareness turned off it should be possible for someone to do a coerced unlock, and I don't think Apple has any good answers for that. The secret code to disable FaceID is *never* going to be remembered when the s*** hits the fan.
Dunno. New tech, lots of questions, few answers?
Technology is a constant evolution of a process that never stops improving. That's why there are releases of products almost every single year because of what they offer in terms of improved hardware and software features. In the case of Face ID, I feel it had a strong start contrary to what you read on a tech forum for those who are ignorant or judge without even trying it. The millions of iPhone users who don't frequent MacRumors or any other tech forums, likely have not had any issues with spoofing Face ID.
You were warned here first. iPhone 13 will be a neural implant.
And not completely off topic, did you notice the news item on the MR blog this morning? There's a new game out for the iPhone X. You control the game...with you eyebrows. Spooky? Weird? Just a sign of the times? Imagine playing that in public - people would think you needed psychiatric attention?
And not completely off topic, did you notice the news item on the MR blog this morning? There's a new game out for the iPhone X. You control the game...with you eyebrows. Spooky? Weird? Just a sign of the times? Imagine playing that in public - people would think you needed psychiatric attention?
In my opinion, after using my X for a few days, FaceID is at least as fast as the first Gen TouchID. In its current form, FaceID is not as fast as the current Gen TouchID. I really do like FaceID, but honestly don't understand how anyone can claim its faster than TouchID. Because it is not....at least that is, for me.
Now, why must I double tap the side button to invoke FaceID in order to purchase apps from the app store?
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Perhaps to answer my own question, the double tap is there to confirm I wish to purchase. With FaceID, since I am starring at my phone, it would be automatic. No going back. With TouchID the transaction would not complete until I placed my finger on the sensor, thus allowing me time to back out.
Now, why must I double tap the side button to invoke FaceID in order to purchase apps from the app store?
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Perhaps to answer my own question, the double tap is there to confirm I wish to purchase. With FaceID, since I am starring at my phone, it would be automatic. No going back. With TouchID the transaction would not complete until I placed my finger on the sensor, thus allowing me time to back out.
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I've seen videos and animated GIFs "proving" the point both ways. All I can say is that 2nd Gen TouchID gets to the home screen approximately just as fast as FaceID - if you discount the need to click the side button or tap the display. I'm discounting that because although I have always turned off Raise to Wake (sounds like a song from some Irish Fusion band?), if you have RtW enabled you'd only have to swipe up.