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And YouTube ...

And Netflix...

And DJI drone software...

And... (I can go on and on)
Sure you can but why would you watch youtube/netflix on a phone when you have an ipad?

point is those apps do work in landscape on a phone anyway so the iphone x not being able to use landscape on the home screen doesn't matter at all
 
I seriously doubt either will be completely gone next year
Whether Apple will incorporate a screen touch ID along with face ID or not remains to be seen

I agree, and I think there are two scenarios, one of which is almost guaranteed.

1. Apple is going to go on selling prior year models, so next year at least the 8 and probably the 7 will still be available. The 8 will probably remain for sale into the 9/19-9/20 cycle, if recent patterns continue.

2. It is possible that Apple will introduce one more TouchID iPhone as the iPhone 9. Or maybe the 9 designation will be an abandoned number - very hard to do more than make a WAG.
 
Just my 2 cents. Coming from iPhone 6. Preamble: TouchID v1 worked very well for me.

FaceID is amazing! Have been using the X for only 24 hours and to say that FaceID works well is a massive understatement. I genuinely cannot believe how a v1 product so complex can work so well! Hats off to Apple.

I have to confess that I had my reservations prior to purchasing the X. I am a believer now. FaceID is the present and the future. I would not want to go back to TouchID, not even if it were embedded under the screen.

I love how the notifications and the phone in general ‘behaves’ if it sees you. Truly amazing.
 
Just my 2 cents. Coming from iPhone 6. Preamble: TouchID v1 worked very well for me.

FaceID is amazing! Have been using the X for only 24 hours and to say that FaceID works well is a massive understatement. I genuinely cannot believe how a v1 product so complex can work so well! Hats off to Apple.

I have to confess that I had my reservations prior to purchasing the X. I am a believer now. FaceID is the present and the future. I would not want to go back to TouchID, not even if it were embedded under the screen.

I love how the notifications and the phone in general ‘behaves’ if it sees you. Truly amazing.

This is my experience as well. Face-ID is working better than touch-ID.
 
I wasn’t a fan of it when I had an X. I didn’t realize how more reliable and useful Touch ID was until I went back. I’m a triplet with identical siblings so this tech isn’t for me!
I’ve heard stories from my Asian friends that it doesn’t work well for them. I might have to look into it as I see headlines too.
 
Which fails to recognize you more TouchID v1 or FaceID?

Touch-ID.
My first experience is with the iPhone 5s. It works well most of the times, sometimes a little slow.
Then I got an iPhone 6s for work. Newer generation Touch-ID on this phone is much faster, and recognises better. But still fails to recognise occasionally.
Face-ID on my iPhone X recognises me like 95% of the times, with and without glasses, and fast. And when it doesn't recognise me, I just swipe up, it will do a second scan which is always successful.
 
FaceID works by far better than TouchID in terms of successful attempts. At least this is my experience.
 
After 1 week with FaceID, on my X, it is OKAY. That is all I can say. It doesn't work well in the dark most of the time. It seems to not pick me up at all when I am laying in bed to unlock. So I have to enter the pin. Done this almost every time. While in the car, I was trying to unlock it (and I forgot I had to raise it up more to my face), and it was a bit more of a pain. I didn't have it hooked into my cars bluetooth yet, so had to call someone. Also, when its laying on my desk, I tap the screen to see notifications, but I can't unlock it without picking it up. Sucks.

The extra swipe up is also irritating. I wish it would just go to the home screen when it unlocks. Or have the option to turn that on. I don't think it's a failure, but it is a bit more trouble to use than the button.
 
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Which fails to recognize you more TouchID v1 or FaceID?

I have/had basically no failures with either when used as intended and properly set up. My issues with FaceID's "accuracy" were really related to scanning from the "wrong" position. For example, if you put it on a desk or table, it will almost never unlock unless you pick up the phone (or lean over it, usually very awkward). TouchID doesn't present that issue. Use in a vehicle mount is another issue that favors TouchID (for the same basic reason).
 
Only referencing Touch ID, it always worked flawlessly for me. I like the concept of Face ID, but Touch ID refined nicely with speed and accuracy.
 
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I have/had basically no failures with either when used as intended and properly set up. My issues with FaceID's "accuracy" were really related to scanning from the "wrong" position. For example, if you put it on a desk or table, it will almost never unlock unless you pick up the phone (or lean over it, usually very awkward). TouchID doesn't present that issue. Use in a vehicle mount is another issue that favors TouchID (for the same basic reason).

Bingo. FaceID works well in it's 'intended' position but deviate from that even a little and it's atrocious. I wish it let you input multiple faces, like with TouchID to account for different positions.
 
Face ID is superior to Touch ID, in fact, unlocking my iPad or using my iPhone 6 with Touch ID feels abnormal, like old technology, from a very distant past. Those who own a iPhone X will understand, not those who just tried one of a friend of from one that was on display in a department store. I believe that Touch ID is gone, as the headphone jack.
 
Face ID is superior to Touch ID, in fact, unlocking my iPad or using my iPhone 6 with Touch ID feels abnormal, like old technology, from a very distant past. Those who own a iPhone X will understand, not those who just tried one of a friend of from one that was on display in a department store. I believe that Touch ID is gone, as the headphone jack.

A lot of people at this point don’t care enough about the differences of unlocking their phone. Whether you put your finger on a button and open your iPhone in 0.8 seconds or look at it for the same effect, it’s doesn’t matter either way.

I don’t think FaceID has made enough of an impact to convince average iPhone owners to pay more for a device when touchID does the same job and pretty well too. Being told to pay £400 more because you can now unlock a phone with your face seems rather dull to me at this point.
 
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Bingo. FaceID works well in it's 'intended' position but deviate from that even a little and it's atrocious. I wish it let you input multiple faces, like with TouchID to account for different positions.

Yes. I was sort of puzzled by that when I had an X (tried to - found it wasn't possible). I have a thumb with a big scar and with TouchID gen 1 I would input multiple scans to improve reliability on that thumb. That was no longer necessary when gen 2 came along, btw. I still don't see why Apple couldn't let you do exactly what you mentioned. Perhaps gen 2 of FaceID will be more flexible.
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Face ID is superior to Touch ID, in fact, unlocking my iPad or using my iPhone 6 with Touch ID feels abnormal, like old technology, from a very distant past. Those who own a iPhone X will understand, not those who just tried one of a friend of from one that was on display in a department store. I believe that Touch ID is gone, as the headphone jack.

I had one for five weeks so I think I'm very well qualified to have an opinion. My opinion - it's a draw. But I understand that lots of people have had less than stellar experiences with TouchID, but the same is true with FaceID.

Actually my bigger complaints about FaceID revolve not around its accuracy or speed but around the gestures and phone manipulations Apple has implemented with it. However, I think you're right - Apple will put 100% of its development effort into improving the FaceID user experience, so I think it's safe to guess that within a couple of years FaceID will work better than it does today.
 
Topping this because I suspect the reason iPhone X is being discontinued is because Face ID is not good enough on its own. I suspect the new iPhone will have both Touch ID and Face ID. Precisely because of the reasons given by people in this thread.
 
Topping this because I suspect the reason iPhone X is being discontinued is because Face ID is not good enough on its own. I suspect the new iPhone will have both Touch ID and Face ID. Precisely because of the reasons given by people in this thread.

Never say never, but...I don't think ever. If this were the case, I think we would have heard some sort of rumor, and very senior Apple people have really poured a lot of ice water on the future of TouchID. I think this is about as likely as going back to the 3.5mm headphone jack on iPhones.
 
Topping this because I suspect the reason iPhone X is being discontinued is because Face ID is not good enough on its own. I suspect the new iPhone will have both Touch ID and Face ID. Precisely because of the reasons given by people in this thread.

I think you're wrong and Apple is done with Touch ID. Face ID works great and next year it will be even more improved. The only time Face ID has an issue for me is lying in bed, otherwise perfect every time. Furthermore, in order to keep no border screens the button has to go. Apple will not have multiple authentication mechanisms as that's the android "everything but the kitchen sink" approach (Which I actually like as headphone jack, replaceable battery, and expandable memory are all good things)
 
I think you're wrong and Apple is done with Touch ID. Face ID works great and next year it will be even more improved. The only time Face ID has an issue for me is lying in bed, otherwise perfect every time. Furthermore, in order to keep no border screens the button has to go. Apple will not have multiple authentication mechanisms as that's the android "everything but the kitchen sink" approach (Which I
actually like as headphone jack, replaceable battery, and expandable memory are all good things)

And just like anything technology related, it's an evolution of improvements with something that is new like Face ID. But for a starting point, Face ID is very good at what it does, but it does need improvements like you said with lying down in different positions, improve facial recognition for more accuracy when unlocking, etc.

For example, Touch ID started slow, not always accurate and it refined nicely all the way up to the iPhone 8 with speed, accuracy and reliability.
 
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And just like anything technology related, it's an evolution of improvements with something that is new like Face ID. But for a starting point, Face ID is very good at what it does, but it does need improvements like you said with lying down in different positions, improve facial recognition for more accuracy when unlocking, etc.

For example, Touch ID started slow, not always accurate and it refined nicely all the way up to the iPhone 8 with speed, accuracy and reliability.

True, though I haven't noticed any changes in TouchID since the 6S. The leap from gen 1 to gen 2 was incredible. It's actually an indication of how well Apple nailed TouchID, and how quickly (two cycles: 5S -> 6S).
 
And just like anything technology related, it's an evolution of improvements with something that is new like Face ID. But for a starting point, Face ID is very good at what it does, but it does need improvements like you said with lying down in different positions, improve facial recognition for more accuracy when unlocking, etc.

For example, Touch ID started slow, not always accurate and it refined nicely all the way up to the iPhone 8 with speed, accuracy and reliability.

Agreed. FaceID is going to give Apple a good feel how its performing in order to tweak and work it out for the next iteration. After all, the iPhone X served as a good beta for FaceID.
 
TouchID was conclusively better for me. No question. I enter my password 30% of the time now (FaceID is about 70% accurate on my face). TouchID only failed when my fingers were wet.

Apple will not go back on this. FaceID is the future, love it or hate it. I just hope the future versions will be more accurate.

Maybe a more detailed calibration process. I always felt that the two rotations didn’t seem like enough.
 
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