Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

Other Fast charging

Susurs said:
As I told previously in this thread: My 7 Plus charged from 0-100% in 100min (0-50% in 35min) using Apple 29w/USB-C. I don’t care whether you call it fast charging or something else, but it seems to charge faster than some iPhones 8 here so far... ;)
Click to expand...

And your 7 Plus would have charged in that exact same amount of time, if you had used the 10w iPad charger.

People with 8's will go even faster, from 0-50%, when using the 29w charger.
 
Why does it have to be Apple USB-C to lightning? Why can't we use other cords? Apple cords stink and aren't durable and are way too pricey!
 
RxMac said:
Why does it have to be Apple USB-C to lightning? Why can't we use other cords? Apple cords stink and aren't durable and are way too pricey!
Click to expand...


Tried 61W charger with USB-C to lightning cable on my iPhone 7. Not sure if it drains more than 12 (10?) watts.

47% in 30 minutes.


Apple promised iPhone 8 fast charge 50% in 30 minutes. I had Wi-Fi enabled. Poor reception.


Would an iPhone 8 charge faster at all? This fast charge thing by Apple seems like a major scam. Or perhaps there is a speed increase with the plus? If there is a difference with the regular iPhone 8 compared to 7 we're talking about 3-4 minutes. Bah
 
  • Like
Reactions: Susurs
BeatCrazy said:
And your 7 Plus would have charged in that exact same amount of time, if you had used the 10w iPad charger.

People with 8's will go even faster, from 0-50%, when using the 29w charger.
Click to expand...

If you read the posts abowe - you could see that I compared it an used the iPad standart charger, and it took around 35 minutes longer from 0-100%
[doublepost=1506490062][/doublepost]Next, Apple could release an update slowing down iPhone 7 charging speeds - so that the 8 looks better/‘fast’ :D
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: malikkamran
chucksz said:
iPhone 8 and 8 Plus support USB PD with different voltages, which is why the 29W, 61W, and 87W USB-C bricks can be used.

It was found that the 8 Plus benefits more from USB PD; the faster charging rate charges the bigger battery faster than what's possible with the 7 and below.

Some info here: http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/blog...probably-not-needed-fast-charge-smaller-phone
Click to expand...

Seems that 7 does benefit from 29w charger as well. But I don’t see it as the the benefit from the PD, different voltages due to the fact that 8’s and 7’s are able to charge up to 50% similarly fast.
 
chucksz said:
Some info here: http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/blog...probably-not-needed-fast-charge-smaller-phone
Click to expand...

Susurs said:
Seems that 7 does benefit from 29w charger as well. But I don’t see it as the the benefit from the PD, different voltages due to the fact that 8’s and 7’s are able to charge up to 50% similarly fast.
Click to expand...

So many errors in that article... I caution you against drawing any conclusions from it.

To be clear, in "Apple speak", Fast charging means an iPhone or iPad that can draw power at greater than 10/12 watts, which will of course reduce power time when charging from 0-50% battery.

Since no Apple devices allow a draw of greater than 10/12 watts via USB-A cable, by nature, "Fast charge" must be delivered via USB-C cable/brick, and must have the associated USB-C PD chip inside the receiving device (which the 7/7 Plus does not have).

In the article linked above, the author erroneously reports that the "Apple 29W USB-C adapter, which can do 14.5V @ 3A", which should be 2A. He goes on to repeat this error several times, wondering why he never sees 3A draw. Because the neither the phone supports 3A, nor does the charger! He also never measures the wattage draw a <50% charge, only relates his charging time. I imagine if he were to measure, he'd see something >11.6 watts on the 8/8 Plus. Something that would be impossible with a 7/7 Plus.
 
My iphone 5s charges to about roughly 50% in about 35 mins in Airplane mode using an Anker 24w USB charger (5V 2.4amps per socket. See link below). The same is true for my wifes Iphone 6s. We share the same double plug Anker charger.

I'm using genuine apple usb-a lightning cables and Ankers usb-a Lightning II cables and both "fast charge" our older iphone 5s and iphone 6.

Historically I've been using an Apple ipad charger, its an old ipad model - cant remember the specs of the charger before I got the Anker, and it charged our phones just as fast. This "fast charge" feature using a higher amperage charger is nothing new on iphones, its always been there since the iphone 5s.

I'm waiting to pre-order the Iphone X and having read this thread and done a bit of research on the net regarding the fast charge feature on the new iphone 8/8+/X, I can tell you I wont be spending any extra cash on new USB-C cables/chargers, as I am 99% sure the iphone X will "fast charge" to roughly 50% in 30mins using the Anker (5V 2.4amp) USB-A charger.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-Char...6517417&sr=8-2&keywords=Anker+USB+Charger+24W

I will confirm back here once I've got the X of course, if I get lucky on pre-order day...fingers crossed!
 
Last edited:
As an Amazon Associate, MacRumors earns a commission from qualifying purchases made through links in this post.
BeatCrazy said:
So many errors in that article... I caution you against drawing any conclusions from it.

To be clear, in "Apple speak", Fast charging means an iPhone or iPad that can draw power at greater than 10/12 watts, which will of course reduce power time when charging from 0-50% battery.

Since no Apple devices allow a draw of greater than 10/12 watts via USB-A cable, by nature, "Fast charge" must be delivered via USB-C cable/brick, and must have the associated USB-C PD chip inside the receiving device (which the 7/7 Plus does not have).

In the article linked above, the author erroneously reports that the "Apple 29W USB-C adapter, which can do 14.5V @ 3A", which should be 2A. He goes on to repeat this error several times, wondering why he never sees 3A draw. Because the neither the phone supports 3A, nor does the charger! He also never measures the wattage draw a <50% charge, only relates his charging time. I imagine if he were to measure, he'd see something >11.6 watts on the 8/8 Plus. Something that would be impossible with a 7/7 Plus.
Click to expand...

Well, I agree that devices may use different tech, of course. But the my main point is that the charging time for 7 is simillarly fast to 8, or even faster judging by this forum. Apple claims 50% in 30 mins in theory. My 7 Plus does 50% in 35 minutes. Some field tests here report even quite longer total charging time for 8 than on 7....
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Demo Kit
As posted in another thread:
I just tried it with the 29w charger + usb-c lightning cable. Both from Apple.
30/60/90min => 53/81/94%

After 2h6min 100%

Am running 11.0.1 on my 8+
 
  • Like
Reactions: borntrouble
Arni99 said:
As posted in another thread:
I just tried it with the 29w charger + usb-c lightning cable. Both from Apple.
30/60/90min => 53/81/94%

After 2h6min 100%

Am running 11.0.1 on my 8+
Click to expand...

Do you have any information on fast-charging times for the regular iPhone 8?
 
Ok as promised. Here are my results with the Apple 29W and Apple cable. IOS 11.01 iphone 8+, wifi bluetooth on

% time (m:sec)

1 0:00
2 0:33
3 0:45
5 2:05
9 5:00
10 5:05
15 7:32
19 10:03
27 15:00
35 20:00
43 25:00
50 30:00
58 35:00
63 40:00
67 42:45
72 46:14
76 50:00
79 55:00
82 60:00
88 70:00
94 80:00

looks like Apple 29W was a little better up to 30 mins.






alexstjo said:
Ok here is my data. This is an iphone 8+ with wifi and blue tooth on. Next time i will put it in airplane mode to test that. This is with the Apple 6ft cable and Audkey 29W charger

Battery % Time (M:sec)
1 0:00
3 0:50
5 1:50
10 4:56
17 10:00
25 14:53
35 22:00
47 30:00
50 32:07
55 35:30
60 38:30
65 42:45
70 46:14
79 60:00

after this i got distracted by football. sorry
[doublepost=1506277515][/doublepost]


can you provide a link for the car charger? also let us know how it works when you get it
Click to expand...
 
Last edited:
samo350 said:
It's 86W Apple Charge, I don't have the 29W.
You can see in my video that the iPhone can consume more than 18W at 9V (9.25V/2.33A which is nearly 22W).
The 86W Apple charger can deliver up to 27W at 9V.
Click to expand...

Looks like what you're seeing is the 87w delivering 9V @ 2.4A = 21.6w. Which is still not as good as what the 29W Apple charger should be apple to deliver (14.5V @ 2A). I'll be able to test on Monday when my iPhone 8 arrives.
 
Save your money. iPad charging brick might be speedy enough for you.

Test was done like I normally use my phone. Battery gets low, phone gets plugged it, that’s it.

1:08 AM = 4%
1:38 AM = 42%
2:08 AM = 76%
2:38 AM = 94%

I won't bother with USB-C bricks and cables until I get a new MacBook Pro.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BigMcGuire
As an Amazon Associate, MacRumors earns a commission from qualifying purchases made through links in this post.
About the 29w charger, Are they only 2 charging profiles on the 29w apple charger (14.5v@2.0 & 5.2v@2.4)? And if so, is it possible that the 8/8plus are not able to charge at 14.5v and only at 5.2v?
 
Appleinsider with new test on 8. I don’t get why they don’t compare it to a iPhone 7. Both phones comes with 5W standard. My 7 charges to 48% in 30m with 29w charger
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back