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Final Verdict: Purplera1n vs. Redsn0w
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"sometimes the best road is not the easy road"
i jb'd mine with redsn0w. i am more comfortable with dev-team b/c i used it to jb my previous 2 iphones. i have heard nothing but good things about purplera1n.. i just went with what i know. both seem to work fine. i notice no battery issues
i jb'd mine with redsn0w. i am more comfortable with dev-team b/c i used it to jb my previous 2 iphones. i have heard nothing but good things about purplera1n.. i just went with what i know. both seem to work fine. i notice no battery issues
Im new to the iPhone scene. What is iBEC and iBSS files? Why would we need to back them up? Ive done a Google search and all it said is that it is needed to update the jailbreak later on. What does that mean? Thanks!
Serialtoon:
Going through the instructions in iClarified in getting your iBEC and iBSS files secures your phone for future Jailbreaks. The above two files have the ICID signature of your phone. So for now you do the Jailbreak directly. When you
upgrade to 3.1 you will not get the iBEC and iBSS files which would make it impossible to jailbreak your iphone until another exploit is uncovered.
So as long as i dont update to 3.1 i dont need the files? I mean i WILL update, but for now i dont need them. Correct? This is holding me back from JB'ing the phone. Thanks a million and sorry for the highjack.
That's weird, I jailbroke my phone last night on Vista Ultimate 64 bit with no issues whatsoever. Literally push a button and let it rip.
while both are good and purplera1n is super fast, i dont like how purplra1n leaves freeze behind.
sure i can remove it, but i dont want that extra step
sure i can remove it, but i dont want that extra step
This thread is in good intention. You may be able to draw some general conclusions from it, but ultimately, this thread will be a bit pointless.
First, there are two releases of purplera1n: RC1 and RC2. Some of the posters are not saying which version they used/are using which basically invalidates their post - no conclusion can be drawn from it.
Second, diffrent posters will be running different applications from Cydia. Someone who isn't using SBsettings is more likely to have better battery life than someone who is not, for example. And hell, not even counting jailbreak, people are going to have different settings from the normal Apple features like push notification, fetch, location services, etc.
Third, if you're rating a jailbreak purely off of ease of use. This really doesn't help in the "Final Verdict" between these two methods of jailbreak.
I mean really...1-click vs 1-click and entering DFU. It's really not that hard either way. If we really want to get to the bottom of which one is better we should ignore ease of use and focus on stability and performance issues.
What we really need is one person with one phone, unless all phones are created equal (who can spend the time not using their phone for personal use for 2-4 days) to test both versions of jailbreak (redsn0w vs purplera1n RC2) to eliminate all of the variables that you're going to get from poster to poster.
It would also be good to test with a fresh jailbreak. 1 day dedicated for each jailbreak. Then, another test with some popular apps installed. Again, 1 day for each jailbreak. They'd also have to use the phone the exact same way each day. So, maybe two phones would be easier to use side by side. These two phones would have to have similar battery life before the jailbreak though to eliminate the added variable of another phone.
Maybe someone like Engadget or some other tech blog would be nice enough to do this for us if we ask nicely? I'll give it a shot, but I'm only one voice. I know my battery life has suffered since using redsn0w, but I don't have enough information to blame it purely on redsn0w yet.
First, there are two releases of purplera1n: RC1 and RC2. Some of the posters are not saying which version they used/are using which basically invalidates their post - no conclusion can be drawn from it.
Second, diffrent posters will be running different applications from Cydia. Someone who isn't using SBsettings is more likely to have better battery life than someone who is not, for example. And hell, not even counting jailbreak, people are going to have different settings from the normal Apple features like push notification, fetch, location services, etc.
Third, if you're rating a jailbreak purely off of ease of use. This really doesn't help in the "Final Verdict" between these two methods of jailbreak.
I mean really...1-click vs 1-click and entering DFU. It's really not that hard either way. If we really want to get to the bottom of which one is better we should ignore ease of use and focus on stability and performance issues.
What we really need is one person with one phone, unless all phones are created equal (who can spend the time not using their phone for personal use for 2-4 days) to test both versions of jailbreak (redsn0w vs purplera1n RC2) to eliminate all of the variables that you're going to get from poster to poster.
It would also be good to test with a fresh jailbreak. 1 day dedicated for each jailbreak. Then, another test with some popular apps installed. Again, 1 day for each jailbreak. They'd also have to use the phone the exact same way each day. So, maybe two phones would be easier to use side by side. These two phones would have to have similar battery life before the jailbreak though to eliminate the added variable of another phone.
Maybe someone like Engadget or some other tech blog would be nice enough to do this for us if we ask nicely? I'll give it a shot, but I'm only one voice. I know my battery life has suffered since using redsn0w, but I don't have enough information to blame it purely on redsn0w yet.
Eleonardo makes a great point. I, too, noticed that battery life has suffered since using redsn0w (compared with purplera1n rc1 >> rc2 before). This is what I've done today to try to figure out what has been killing my battery. After each step, I've used the phone n the same manner -- reading feeds on byline, surfing, reading a book on kindle, making short (>1 minute) calls and times how long it's taken to go from 100 percent to 95 percent -- that is just turned from 96 to 95 percent. Then I've done the next step and recharged to 100 percent.
1. Restore >> setup as new phone. Took approx. 30 minutesto go from 100 to 95 percent
2. Jailbreak with purplesn0w, but do not install Cydia - same battery life
3. Install Cydia, but do not run Cydia - same battery life
4. Run Cydia once, allow Cydia to move apps, ringtones, wallpapers to the media partition - same battery life.
5. Run Cydia again, complete update to Cydia - same battery life.
Next I'm going to start installing stuff little by little to see what happens. I'll update this post.
I have tried to JB iphone 3G 16 gb white iphone 3.0fw... did not work with purplera1n.... not sure what version i used
Purplera1n was the fastest and the easiest jailbreak to date. Tried Redsn0w two times but it never appeared to work....
Purplera1n currently only jailbreaks the 3GS.
Redsn0w jailbreaks the original iPhone, the 3G, 3GS, and both generations of iPod Touch.
It also doesn't require you to manually put the phone in to DFU mode which can be a pain. There were several times, I had to make multiple attempts to time it so that I got the phone in to DFU when Redsn0w expected it.
Purplera1n, in my opinion, was BY FAR much, much easier and the jailbreak has worked perfectly for me. I haven't noticed any battery drainage issues, etc. that I've seen others complain about.
I used purplera1n RC2 and love it no problems at all..
and i will continue to support him *geohotz* because it seems to me as the dev team started getting atlittle cocky making so many people wait for a jailbreak..just think we would STILL be waiting if the dev team was the only jailbreak..and whats funny is that this kid is only ONE kid jailbreaking..they have a whole team working on it..
i dont need an unlock so i dont care about ultrasn0w or any other color sn0w
and i will continue to support him *geohotz* because it seems to me as the dev team started getting atlittle cocky making so many people wait for a jailbreak..just think we would STILL be waiting if the dev team was the only jailbreak..and whats funny is that this kid is only ONE kid jailbreaking..they have a whole team working on it..
i dont need an unlock so i dont care about ultrasn0w or any other color sn0w
Oh yeah the dev team is simply awful for wanting to make sure that 3.1 doesn't plug the exploit so it can easily be jailbroken/unlocked.
What Geohot has done is delay Apple from releasing 3.1 because they have to get rid of that exploit.
Just because they are called the dev team doesn't mean its a bunch of people.
I can't fathom the people who think redsn0w is tough.
Turn it off
Hold down the home button
Plug in the USB cable
Yeah, real rocket science there.
Turn it off
Hold down the home button
Plug in the USB cable
Yeah, real rocket science there.
Exactly what I did. Purplera1ned when it first came out, then recently redid it with Redsn0w when I went back in to get my IBEC and IBSS files. While the Geohot install was way easier than Dev Teams, I'm thinking it's better to live and die with a whole team rather than count on George. He's a great guy, genius even, but if he decided to "retire" from iPhone hacking we'd all be back with Dev Team.
No difference in battery life to me between the versions. I don't use themes or winterboard, just a lot of tweeks and utilities (SBSettings, ATT Carrier Logo, 3G Unrestrictor to name a few).
The easiest way to get into DFU mode is to listen to your PC while holding down the Home and Sleep/Wake button. Around ten seconds you will hear the first "pong" on your PC (XP here). As soon as you hear the pong, release the Sleep/Wake button. You are now holding down only the Home button. As soon as you hear the next "pong" on your PC, release the Home button.
Works every time and you don't have to count/guess to 10, etc.
Why not wait until 3.2 then or 4.0? That way, Apple might not realize the exploit is there.