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The Topic was "First definite signs that the iMac 2011 is coming"
Not if you are Lying !!
There is a new thread here everyday about this and I find it all moot.

Who Cares, If you can wait till the new one is out it may be you don't need it in the first place.
If you cant you buy what's available.
 
The Topic was "First definite signs that the iMac 2011 is coming"
Not if you are Lying !!
There is a new thread here everyday about this and I find it all moot.

Who Cares, If you can wait till the new one is out it may be you don't need it in the first place.
If you cant you buy what's available.

Well everyone might not see it that way.
I work with music production and i'm about to buy a new computer and I find that the imac is the one that can please my needs.
But right now it's very hard to make that decision. If I buy an imac now it wont last as long as the new ones. Thats the reason I have to know if apple is about to release them anytime soon.:confused:
 
Well everyone might not see it that way.
I work with music production and i'm about to buy a new computer and I find that the imac is the one that can please my needs.
But right now it's very hard to make that decision. If I buy an imac now it wont last as long as the new ones. Thats the reason I have to know if apple is about to release them anytime soon.:confused:

I just took the decision and bought it knowing very well the new iMac Sandy Bridge is not more than 2-3-4 months away.

I did it because I needed a computer NOW! and didn't feel I could wait 2-3 months. Also I'm not that much of a power user that a Quad Core i7 2.93 Ghz, 16 GB Ram, 256 SSD & 2 TB HDD can't fullfil my needs at the moment and 1-2 years into the future.

The real upgrade in my view will NOT be Sandy Brige, but when Ivy Bridge is here in 2012.

The next iMac I will buy will be an iMac with an Ivy Bridge CPU and Ivy Bridge X58 chipset and hopefully quad channel 32 GB RAM and that will be released in summer/fall 2012.

This will be an upgrade I will look forward to much more than the present 25% faster Sandy Brige. Ivy Bridge will give at least 50% more cpu power and be much more of an upgrade in my view ;)

I also guess you will see a new design on the iMac in the 2012 upgarde, whereas the 2011 upgrade will feature the same design as the 2010 iMac, I guess :)
 
Wouldn't say 2 to 4 months, more like 1-2 months.
But I understand your vision... It makes sense, however I wouldn't buy a new computer every 1,5 years :)
 
Wouldn't say 2 to 4 months, more like 1-2 months.
But I understand your vision... It makes sense, however I wouldn't buy a new computer every 1,5 years :)

I just got the idea, that it was about time I should try out my first Mac......ever :)

Then ordered the Macbook Air 13 Ulti and the iMac 27 Ulti :apple:

I was about to upgrade my Server Tower selfdesigned PC system with 4 Intel SDD drives and 2 Caviar 2 TB HDD's, Sandy Bridge i2600 K 3.4 Ghz, 16 GB Ram and a 6970 2 GB GPU card, but then all of a sudden had an urge to buy my first Mac and couldn't wait 1-2-3-4 months on the next Imac.

This is why I bought it now :eek:

Next time - if I continue to buy Macs - I will plan it much much better, trust me on this :p

My plan and budget allows me to buy a new iMac 27 Ulti and a new MacBook Air 13 Ulti now and then upgrade both once every second year.
This means I will have to live with the MacBook Air until 2013, if I upgrade the iMac next year, and then upgrade my MacBook Air in 2013 and the iMac again in 2014.

This way I can sell my Macs with at least 1 year left of the Apple Care protection plan and because of that expect to get a good decent price for the computers - hope this is a well thought out plan :cool:
 
I just got the idea, that it was about time I should try out my first Mac......ever :)

Then ordered the Macbook Air 13 Ulti and the iMac 27 Ulti :apple:

I was about to upgrade my Server Tower selfdesigned PC system with 4 Intel SDD drives and 2 Caviar 2 TB HDD's, Sandy Bridge i2600 K 3.4 Ghz, 16 GB Ram and a 6970 2 GB GPU card, but then all of a sudden had an urge to buy my first Mac and couldn't wait 1-2-3-4 months on the next Imac.

This is why I bought it now :eek:

Next time - if I continue to buy Macs - I will plan it much much better, trust me on this :p

My plan and budget allows me to buy a new iMac 27 Ulti and a new MacBook Air 13 Ulti now and then upgrade both once every second year.
This means I will have to live with the MacBook Air until 2013, if I upgrade the iMac next year, and then upgrade my MacBook Air in 2013 and the iMac again in 2014.

This way I can sell my Macs with at least 1 year left of the Apple Care protection plan and because of that expect to get a good decent price for the computers - hope this is a well thought out plan :cool:

Yeah but the imac you bought is a monster!:) The one I can afford at the moment is the imac 21,5 i3. If I wait i will probably get a much better imac for my money!:cool: The problem is that I MUST buy a new computer next week. So I have my fingers crossed that they will announce new imacs on tuesday:(
 
Remember last year when updates were coming out after the 20th of every month? The Macbook Pro was updated on Feb 24th. Apple likes to spread the releases apart at least 30 days. I won't be surprised it is refreshed within the next week.

I don't know if the communication is legit. Be careful.
 
Yeah but the imac you bought is a monster!:) The one I can afford at the moment is the imac 21,5 i3. If I wait i will probably get a much better imac for my money!:cool: The problem is that I MUST buy a new computer next week. So I have my fingers crossed that they will announce new imacs on tuesday:(

Man, same here
 
Yeah but the imac you bought is a monster!:) The one I can afford at the moment is the imac 21,5 i3. If I wait i will probably get a much better imac for my money!:cool: The problem is that I MUST buy a new computer next week. So I have my fingers crossed that they will announce new imacs on tuesday:(

I feel your pain. I was in the exact same situation last week.
Had sold my old PC monster system and was about to order the new components for my new Sandy Bridge MONSTER TOWER PC, when I realized I just HAD to try a Mac for the first time ever, because I found out I had access to Student discount (I study at the University) and also already had ordered the Apple Cinema Display 27" for my upcoming self designed PC.

I looked at the ACD 27" in the store (while still waiting for my own to be delivered from the Apple store) and then saw that the iMac 27" featured the exact same 27" display AND had a computer tucked in behind the screen :)

If I knew about the smokey screen issues a lot of iMacs have, I might have stayed with my self build and designed MONSTER PC with an ACD 27" display though :eek:
 
I just took the decision and bought it knowing very well the new iMac Sandy Bridge is not more than 2-3-4 months away.

I did it because I needed a computer NOW! and didn't feel I could wait 2-3 months. Also I'm not that much of a power user that a Quad Core i7 2.93 Ghz, 16 GB Ram, 256 SSD & 2 TB HDD can't fullfil my needs at the moment and 1-2 years into the future.

The real upgrade in my view will NOT be Sandy Brige, but when Ivy Bridge is here in 2012.

The next iMac I will buy will be an iMac with an Ivy Bridge CPU and Ivy Bridge X58 chipset and hopefully quad channel 32 GB RAM and that will be released in summer/fall 2012.

This will be an upgrade I will look forward to much more than the present 25% faster Sandy Brige. Ivy Bridge will give at least 50% more cpu power and be much more of an upgrade in my view ;)

I also guess you will see a new design on the iMac in the 2012 upgarde, whereas the 2011 upgrade will feature the same design as the 2010 iMac, I guess :)

I hope so. The next iMac will be a monster from what I can see. The Mac pro? Who knows.
 
I just took the decision and bought it knowing very well the new iMac Sandy Bridge is not more than 2-3-4 months away.

I did it because I needed a computer NOW! and didn't feel I could wait 2-3 months. Also I'm not that much of a power user that a Quad Core i7 2.93 Ghz, 16 GB Ram, 256 SSD & 2 TB HDD can't fullfil my needs at the moment and 1-2 years into the future.

The real upgrade in my view will NOT be Sandy Brige, but when Ivy Bridge is here in 2012.

The next iMac I will buy will be an iMac with an Ivy Bridge CPU and Ivy Bridge X58 chipset and hopefully quad channel 32 GB RAM and that will be released in summer/fall 2012.

This will be an upgrade I will look forward to much more than the present 25% faster Sandy Brige. Ivy Bridge will give at least 50% more cpu power and be much more of an upgrade in my view ;)

I also guess you will see a new design on the iMac in the 2012 upgarde, whereas the 2011 upgrade will feature the same design as the 2010 iMac, I guess :)

These sound like the inaccurate, disingenuous musings of someone who's trying to justify a questionable purchase to themselves -- and here's why:

- X58 was the enthusiast-level chipset for the Nehalem platform, not Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge. Besides, the late '09 and '10 Nehalem iMacs didn't even use X58, so you're not going to see an enthusiast-level chipset (i.e. X58's successor) in the iMac. Guaranteed.

- According to most literature, Ivy Bridge might provide a 20% CPU performance boost over Sandy Bridge. The integrated GPU gain might be larger (up to 30%), but iMacs use discrete graphics anyway, so it's a moot point. I hate to tell you, but it's common knowledge that the performance gain going from Nehalem to Sandy Bridge will be much greater than going from Sandy Bridge to Ivy Bridge. I have no idea what orifice you pulled your "50%" claim out of.

- There's no such thing as quad-channel RAM. And current-gen iMacs only use dual-channel DDR3. Seeing as how the currently-available Sandy Bridge (Cougar Point) chipsets only support dual-channel RAM, we're definitely not going to see triple-channel memory with upcoming the Sandy Bridge iMacs. Even when the enthusiast-class Sandy Bridge chipsets are released later this year that do support triple-channel memory, they won't make their way into the iMac line. It's highly likely that Ivy Bridge chipsets will continue this trend, so you won't be seeing triple-channel memory in the '12 iMacs, much less the non-existent quad-channel RAM.

The biggest CPU performance gains are historically seen when Intel changes CPU architectures (tock) vs. die shrinks (tick). Nehalem to Sandy Bridge is a tock, Sandy Bridge to Ivy Bridge is a tick. If you're looking for the biggest performance gains between iMac generations, the upcoming Sandy Bridge models would be where you'd want to buy.
 
These sound like the inaccurate, disingenuous musings of someone who's trying to justify a questionable purchase to themselves -- and here's why:

- X58 was the enthusiast-level chipset for the Nehalem platform, not Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge. Besides, the late '09 and '10 Nehalem iMacs didn't even use X58, so you're not going to see an enthusiast-level chipset (i.e. X58's successor) in the iMac. Guaranteed.

- According to most literature, Ivy Bridge might provide a 20% CPU performance boost over Sandy Bridge. The integrated GPU gain might be larger (up to 30%), but iMacs use discrete graphics anyway, so it's a moot point. I hate to tell you, but it's common knowledge that the performance gain going from Nehalem to Sandy Bridge will be much greater than going from Sandy Bridge to Ivy Bridge. I have no idea what orifice you pulled your "50%" claim out of.

- There's no such thing as quad-channel RAM. And current-gen iMacs only use dual-channel DDR3. Seeing as how the currently-available Sandy Bridge (Cougar Point) chipsets only support dual-channel RAM, we're definitely not going to see triple-channel memory with upcoming the Sandy Bridge iMacs. Even when the enthusiast-class Sandy Bridge chipsets are released later this year that do support triple-channel memory, they won't make their way into the iMac line. It's highly likely that Ivy Bridge chipsets will continue this trend, so you won't be seeing triple-channel memory in the '12 iMacs, much less the non-existent quad-channel RAM.

The biggest CPU performance gains are historically seen when Intel changes CPU architectures (tock) vs. die shrinks (tick). Nehalem to Sandy Bridge is a tock, Sandy Bridge to Ivy Bridge is a tick. If you're looking for the biggest performance gains between iMac generations, the upcoming Sandy Bridge models would be where you'd want to buy.

First - I'm of course talking about the X68 chipset, which is the true successor to the X58, P67 certainly IS NOT - X58 was in my own self designed build PC in early 2009. X58 was a typing error.

Secondly - I don't feel the generation move is complete with a pretty low performing Sandy bridge CPU, when I know Ivy bridge is not more than 6-7 months away from official release. Ivy bridge in my view will complete the transition to the new platform, Sandy Bridge will not.
Ask all the PC builders - Sandy Bridge is not what most wait for, Ivy bridge is!

Thirdly - I decided that I needed my new iMac NOW rather than later, and could live with the perfomance loss of an 2010 Quad Core 2.93 Ghz compard to for instance a Sandy Bridge Intel i2600K 3.4 Ghz knowing that what I rather want in my next iMac is Ivy Bridge and NOT Sandy Bridge.
 
Don't know - can't see them on the Apple web store.

But they told me I would get the price reduction automatically, because I financed my purchase.
So will check on Monday what the new new lower price is :)

But this surely must be the new lower iMac 2010 prices...... ;)

I guess I shoudl be happy they offered me the new lower price on my iMac 2010 27 Ultimate - but probably would rather have bought the Sandy Bridge iMac 27 instead...... :(
Just couldn't wait any longer - but if the new one is out next week, I musy admit I have bought mine in the worst possible week of the entire year ;)

you have two weeks to return it so do that and get the new one.
 
First - I'm of course talking about the X68 chipset, which is the true successor to the X58, P67 certainly IS NOT - X58 was in my own self designed build PC in early 2009. X58 was a typing error.

Secondly - I don't feel the generation move is complete with a pretty low performing Sandy bridge CPU...

Sandy Bridge is "low performing?!?!" My 2.3GHz Sandy Bridge MacBook Pro outperforms my 2.8GHz Nehalem iMac! The desktop class Sandy Bridge CPU with a nominal clock speed of 3.4GHz (that's virtually guaranteed to be in the next iMac) will absolutely crush the current Nehalem offering, not to mention the given GPU upgrades we'll see.

Hey, I can understand needing a new computer now, but I think you're kidding yourself when you say you'll be satisfied with a Nehalem-based system but not a Sandy Bridge-based one. :confused:
 
Sandy Bridge is "low performing?!?!" My 2.3GHz Sandy Bridge MacBook Pro outperforms my 2.8GHz Nehalem iMac! The desktop class Sandy Bridge CPU with a nominal clock speed of 3.4GHz (that's virtually guaranteed to be in the next iMac) will absolutely crush the current Nehalem offering, not to mention the given GPU upgrades we'll see.

Hey, I can understand needing a new computer now, but I think you're kidding yourself when you say you'll be satisfied with a Nehalem-based system but not a Sandy Bridge-based one. :confused:

Look here - Ivybridge LGA2011 will support quad channel RAM - so get your facts straight before you correct me again :mad:

I'm not saying Sandy bridge is a slow chip and CPU, just saying that the real interesting CPU and chip set will be Ivy Bridge LGA 2011, WHICH WILL SUPPORT QUAD CHANNEL RAM !

I will do my web design work in Aperture, Espresso, Coda, Iworks and some Photoshop. Rest assure that the current iMac 27 Ultimate i7 2,93 Ghz, 16 GB Ram, 256 SSD/2TBHDD system will be more than enough for my needs :)

My next upgrade will be to an Ivy Bridge based system, the bigbrother to the Sandy Bridge !
 
Look here - Ivybridge LGA2011 will support quad channel RAM - so get your facts straight before you correct me again :mad:

I'm not saying Sandy bridge is a slow chip and CPU, just saying that the real interesting CPU and chip set will be Ivy Bridge LGA 2011, WHICH WILL SUPPORT QUAD CHANNEL RAM !

I will do my web design work in Aperture, Espresso, Coda, Iworks and some Photoshop. Rest assure that the current iMac 27 Ultimate i7 2,93 Ghz, 16 GB Ram, 256 SSD/2TBHDD system will be more than enough for my needs :)

My next upgrade will be to an Ivy Bridge based system, the bigbrother to the Sandy Bridge !
Reread what I said...it's accurate. Quad-channel memory doesn't exist right now...it's still vaporware. Besides, if and when we ever see it, it'll likely be on LGA 2011, the enthusiast-class platform for Sandy/Ivy Bridge. Since LGA 1366 (the enthusiast-class Nehalem platform) never made it into the iMac, I think it's a sure thing that LGA 2011, and consequently quad-channel RAM, won't either. iMac is likely going to top out at LGA 1155 for the foreseeable future -- and that's the platform this summer's iMacs will have.

I think if you're holding out for the promise of quad-channel memory in the 2012 iMac, you're going to be disappointed.

Anyway, we're talking past one another. I just know if I were you and I just bought a top-of-the-line iMac, and the new models came out 2-3 months later, I'd have SERIOUS buyer's remorse. It's one thing if you can't wait, but if you could hold off for just another couple of months, particularly with the type of work you do, I think you'd be MUCH happier with the updates we're going to see this summer. Since it's only going to be 2-3 more months, you could still get your Ivy Bridge iMac when it's released and you'd still be pretty close to your original upgrade timeline. :cool:
 
Hey,

I just received my iMac 2010 27 Ultimate 2 days ago.
Today - 7 hours ago, I received an email from Apple:

'Thank your for your recent Apple Store order.

Today Apple unveiled a price reduction and we are pleased to report that the price of the product you purchased is less than previously indicated.
Accordingly, we are delighted to revise your current order and offer you our new, lower price.'


To me this is definite prove of the new iMac is coming just around the corner....
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I hope so. I'm holding off new purchase til the latest....
 
Reread what I said...it's accurate. Quad-channel memory doesn't exist right now...it's still vaporware. Besides, if and when we ever see it, it'll likely be on LGA 2011, the enthusiast-class platform for Sandy/Ivy Bridge. Since LGA 1366 (the enthusiast-class Nehalem platform) never made it into the iMac, I think it's a sure thing that LGA 2011, and consequently quad-channel RAM, won't either. iMac is likely going to top out at LGA 1155 for the foreseeable future -- and that's the platform this summer's iMacs will have.

I think if you're holding out for the promise of quad-channel memory in the 2012 iMac, you're going to be disappointed.

Anyway, we're talking past one another. I just know if I were you and I just bought a top-of-the-line iMac, and the new models came out 2-3 months later, I'd have SERIOUS buyer's remorse. It's one thing if you can't wait, but if you could hold off for just another couple of months, particularly with the type of work you do, I think you'd be MUCH happier with the updates we're going to see this summer. Since it's only going to be 2-3 more months, you could still get your Ivy Bridge iMac when it's released and you'd still be pretty close to your original upgrade timeline. :cool:

Oki :)

Sorry for the harsh tone in my previous post - I was working late and should of stopped discussing Mac and other things way earlier that evening, before I got all pumped up to an Inet battle ;)

I just cancelled my order - will return my great looking iMac 27 Ultimate and will have to stay with my MacBook Air 13 Ultimate, an external Apple Cinema Display 27", an apple keyboard and a Magic mouse and a Trackpad until the new iMac Sandy Bridge is here.

You made me cancel it and return it - shame on you :p :p

The folks at the Apples return dept. were very nice and I must say they have really good customers service at Apple.

Now I just hope the iMac Sandy Bridge is here really soon and not in June or July or ever worse in August, because I have to do most of my work on a 4 GB 2.13 C2D Air until I can get a new iMac :apple:
 
The right decision

You made the right decision.

So what was the outcome of the email you'd received? Did they drop the price? If so what components prices have dropped?

I'm holding out hope that the price drop is an indication that the new iMacs will be released this week...
 
so get your facts straight...
My next upgrade will be to an Ivy Bridge based system, the bigbrother to the Sandy Bridge !

You might want to get your metaphors straight.
Ivy Bridge will be be Sandy Bridge's little brother.
.22 vs. .32.

Sandy Bridge is actually a bigger performance increase over the
previous generation because it is an architectural enhancement,
whereas Ivy Bridge is basically a die shrink.
 
You could liken ivy bridge to westmere. Not really a completely new architecture from intel, but an updated nehalem.
 
Oki :)

Sorry for the harsh tone in my previous post - I was working late and should of stopped discussing Mac and other things way earlier that evening, before I got all pumped up to an Inet battle ;)

I just cancelled my order - will return my great looking iMac 27 Ultimate and will have to stay with my MacBook Air 13 Ultimate, an external Apple Cinema Display 27", an apple keyboard and a Magic mouse and a Trackpad until the new iMac Sandy Bridge is here.

You made me cancel it and return it - shame on you :p :p

The folks at the Apples return dept. were very nice and I must say they have really good customers service at Apple.

Now I just hope the iMac Sandy Bridge is here really soon and not in June or July or ever worse in August, because I have to do most of my work on a 4 GB 2.13 C2D Air until I can get a new iMac :apple:

Great decision! You'll be so much happier that you waited once the Sandy Bridge iMacs are released. And if you do a lot of video editing, you'll be able to connect the LaCie Little Big Disk to your Thunderbolt port and get some awesome RAID 0 lovin' going! ;). Thunderbolt is going to increible for external storage solutions. Heck, we should be able to use Thunderbolt RAID 0 arrays as bootable disks that are faster and cheaper (most likely) than Apple's internal SSD solutions!
 
Just out of curiosity, why would someone that needs the power of an iMac "ultimate", and has the cash to drop on something like that, get that over a Mac Pro? Or for someone that builds PCs, or has, why not do up a hackintosh monster? Not trying to flame, just saying with that kind of cash there are other options that would give you more bang for less buck... heck, even a MBP 15" with the 2.2Ghz would outperform the iMac, for less, and would replace both the iMac and the MBA.
 
Just out of curiosity, why would someone that needs the power of an iMac "ultimate", and has the cash to drop on something like that, get that over a Mac Pro? Or for someone that builds PCs, or has, why not do up a hackintosh monster? Not trying to flame, just saying with that kind of cash there are other options that would give you more bang for less buck... heck, even a MBP 15" with the 2.2Ghz would outperform the iMac, for less, and would replace both the iMac and the MBA.
Don't worry, we've convinced him to hold off until the Sandy Bridge iMacs are available. :)

You're looking at a minimum of $3500 for a Mac Pro with a 27" monitor, and that's for the cheapest base configuration. Unless you need the expandability of the Mac Pro (and Thunderbolt might mitigate that advantage in the coming years), I can see the benefits of going for a hot-rodded iMac vs. a Mac Pro.

As for the Hackintosh argument -- I can totally understand that if someone's doing professional-level work or using their computer for employment that they wouldn't want to deal with the hassles or lack of warranty support that are inherent to Hackintoshes. For an enthusiast machine, sure, but for real work, it's probably wise to go with the real deal.
 
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