Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
I just want to know if you can make and install your own ringtones. I see nothing on either video that says you can or can't. If you can't that's going to be really crappy:mad: .

i know i really want to know that also
 
As for the EDGE network, I noticed a HUGE difference using EDGE over GPRS on my 8700.

AT&T has 3G in many metro areas - I have it here in Orlando. It is much faster than EDGE on my 8525. This is, in fact, the main reason I decided to pass on the Gen 1 iPhone - lack of 3G. I can't see paying big bucks for something that is only EDGE.
 
Anyone know about the insurance options for the iPhone? Odds are something disastrous may happen, so will the 5 dollar equipment insurance cover the iPhone in case of disaster?
 
Looking forward to these. I wonder if anyone will be brave enough to try and get on unlocked and see how it performs without AT&T
 
Anyone know about the insurance options for the iPhone? Odds are something disastrous may happen, so will the 5 dollar equipment insurance cover the iPhone in case of disaster?
As I posted in another thread, insurance on small ticket items (like iPods, laptops, big-screen TVs, etc.) is always a ripoff. If it were not a ripoff, then the insurance companies would be losing money - and they'd go out of business.

Insurance is only worth it if you're insuring against a catastrophic loss. The loss of your house, a $260,000 medical bill, whatever. If losing a $600 phone is going to be catastrophic for you, you shouldn't be buying one.
 
As I posted in another thread, insurance on small ticket items (like iPods, laptops, big-screen TVs, etc.) is always a ripoff. If it were not a ripoff, then the insurance companies would be losing money - and they'd go out of business.

Insurance is only worth it if you're insuring against a catastrophic loss. The loss of your house, a $260,000 medical bill, whatever. If losing a $600 phone is going to be catastrophic for you, you shouldn't be buying one.

I would rather spend 50 bucks for the fee and 60 bucks year for the monthly plan, than pay 500-600 dollars for a replacement.
How am I being ripped off? Maybe if I kept that phone for 5 years or more and still kept paying 5 dollars? In that case, I still make out okay because the insurance will replace it with the latest G-whiz phone that is comparable.

It's only a rip-off only if they resort to legal trickery to not process a claim.
In my experience with phone insurance, they have been honorable.
 
with all of this 3G talk, i never got a clear definition on what it is. i assumed it was just a video phone. please explain. sry for my stupidity
 
Insurance is only worth it if you're insuring against a catastrophic loss. The loss of your house, a $260,000 medical bill, whatever. If losing a $600 phone is going to be catastrophic for you, you shouldn't be buying one.

I love how people make generalizations based on what works for THEM and try to say it's the same for everyone else. :rolleyes: *points to sig*

I doubt s/he is saying a $600 loss would be CATASTROPHIC, but it's still a PITA all the same. If losing a $600 phone would cause you no hardship or heartbreak, then you must have enough money to buy me one, too!

For most people, $60 a year to insure a $600 iPhone is a reasonable safetynet. After all, who hasn't dropped their (insert expensive piece of technological wonderment here) at least once in the last year? And in 2 years, that's still only $120.
 
I love how people make generalizations based on what works for THEM and try to say it's the same for everyone else. :rolleyes: *points to sig*

I doubt s/he is saying a $600 loss would be CATASTROPHIC, but it's still a PITA all the same. If losing a $600 phone would cause you no hardship or heartbreak, then you must have enough money to buy me one, too!

For most people, $60 a year to insure a $600 iPhone is a reasonable safetynet. After all, who hasn't dropped their (insert expensive piece of technological wonderment here) at least once in the last year? And in 2 years, that's still only $120.

I have washed my phone in my jeans in the washer 3 times. Still works, but the antenna seems a bit weaker to hold onto a signal. Nevertheless, had I elected to call insurance, I would only play 50 bucks for a 200 dollar phone.
 
Both Mossberg & Pogue are such Apple fans I can't imaging anything too bad in their reviews.

Their regular columns are both -- IIRC -- on Thursdays. In Pogue's case, that would most likely mean his will be online Wednesday night sometime if he's reviewing the iPhone this week.

AAPL is off about $4 so far this week. Looks like the market is a little nervous ahead of Friday.
 
I would rather spend 50 bucks for the fee and 60 bucks year for the monthly plan, than pay 500-600 dollars for a replacement.
How am I being ripped off? Maybe if I kept that phone for 5 years or more and still kept paying 5 dollars? In that case, I still make out okay because the insurance will replace it with the latest G-whiz phone that is comparable.

It's only a rip-off only if they resort to legal trickery to not process a claim.
In my experience with phone insurance, they have been honorable.

I love how people make generalizations based on what works for THEM and try to say it's the same for everyone else. :rolleyes: *points to sig*

I doubt s/he is saying a $600 loss would be CATASTROPHIC, but it's still a PITA all the same. If losing a $600 phone would cause you no hardship or heartbreak, then you must have enough money to buy me one, too!

For most people, $60 a year to insure a $600 iPhone is a reasonable safetynet. After all, who hasn't dropped their (insert expensive piece of technological wonderment here) at least once in the last year? And in 2 years, that's still only $120.


Amen to both of you, those stupid naysayers also dont understand that apple has one of the best warranty systems out there. they replace anything and give you a refurbished copy of whatever you own! (although sometimes i swear they are new). Just buy the apple care warranty and you should be perfectly fine...
 
Apple has so much riding on this product. I hope we get an honest and unbiased review. I really hope it performs as shown on the Apple.com website. I know EDGE/Wifi speeds may vary, but thats just how it is.
 
There's always going to be a learning curve with a new device. Having been an avid Crackberry user for the past 5yrs, moving to a new BB model was different for a time. I went from a 6790 to a 7100t to an 8700. The 6790 has a 'normal' qwerty keyboard and when I went to the 7100, it used predictive text, then to an 8700 and back to a 'normal' keyboard. Now we are rolling out 8800's at the office and no more click wheel, a centered 'pearl' instead. Moving to each new device took me about 3-4 days of solid use to finally use the device well. I assume the same and will not discount the typing if I have difficulties at first. I think some of the reviewers need to give the keyboard a chance.

As for the EDGE network, I noticed a HUGE difference using EDGE over GPRS on my 8700. I currently use GMail, Google Maps, etc on it and it's slow, but certainly usable. Living in the NY Metro Area, I will be able to hop on WiFi not only because we have so many free public hot spots, but most asshats leave their wireless wide open. :)
I could not agree with this post more!
When I had a BB 7250 and saw the BB 8800 keyboard I was like NO WAY will my big fingers work with that phone! But... I have an 8800 and love it and can type great on it even though my left thumb can cover half the keyboard.

Also, living in Atlanta, many of the places I go to for lunch have free wi-fi so that will be nice. And while at home I can use my home network. So many people complain about EDGE when they don't fully understand it. Is it the BEST for speedy downloads..? Nope. Will it be flawless with video?? Doubt it. Has it worked fine for me for 90% of what I need it to do? Yup. Not to mention there are issues associated with 3G that VERY FEW people would put up with from their iPhone right now.. anyone have a Blackjack..? How is that battery life?? The iPhone will have 3G when 3G is ready and we already know that "technically" 3G capability could be on the chipset in the current iPhone but just not activated at this time.

Wi-fi will compliment EDGE well for now.
 
Amen to both of you, those stupid naysayers also dont understand that apple has one of the best warranty systems out there. they replace anything and give you a refurbished copy of whatever you own! (although sometimes i swear they are new). Just buy the apple care warranty and you should be perfectly fine...

and you often have your replacement in a week or less! Done it several times.
 
Today's Article from the New York Post

I wouldn't really consider this a review, but this article was released today from the New York Post.

New York Post Article

It isn't talking about anything new, and he is basing some of his opinions on estimated data plan prices that we know now are incorrect.
 
Apparently, this review for the iPhone is not looking too good. Check it out.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/0626200...ying_an_iphone_columnists_glenn_fleishman.htm

When you mean not looking too good, you mean as a review right?

That is a horrible review.

It compares the device to a laptop, and doesn't even demonstrate that the reviewer actually used an iPhone.

So I agree that review does not look too good. I know the Post is a worthless paper, but this review does not help them.
 
Pogue's review

David Pogue's review just hit the front page of nytimes.com:

The link inside (free subscription required) is here.

Headline: "The iPhone Matches Most of Its Hype"

About the typing keypad, he says:

Then there’s the small matter of typing. Tapping the skinny little virtual keys on the screen is frustrating, especially at first.

Two things make the job tolerable. First, some very smart software offers to complete words for you, and, when you tap the wrong letter, figures out what word you intended. In both cases, tapping the Space bar accepts its suggestion.

Second, the instructional leaflet encourages you to “trust” the keyboard (or, as a product manager jokingly put it, to “use the Force”). It sounds like new-age baloney, but it works; once you stop stressing about each individual letter and just plow ahead, speed and accuracy pick up considerably.

Even so, text entry is not the iPhone’s strong suit. The BlackBerry won’t be going away anytime soon.

His other criticism is that AT&T's network sucks.

Overall, though, Pogue said he loves the iPhone. The typing and network coverage/speed were the only things he complained about, and those complaints were both near the end of the review.
 
When you mean not looking too good, you mean as a review right?

That is a horrible review.

It compares the device to a laptop, and doesn't even demonstrate that the reviewer actually used an iPhone.

So I agree that review does not look too good. I know the Post is a worthless paper, but this review does not help them.

I agree. Yes, much of the stuff he is saying is true, but it is idiotic to compare a phone screen to the screen on a laptop. He is acting like a phone actually exists that has the same sized screen as a laptop.

He actually admits that he only used the phone for a brief moment. So I don't consider this a review at all. It's more of just an opinion.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.