i agree with you 100%
But, lets face it...the best "testers" of the M2...will be us. I want to see how M2 impact my workflow and everything else
Based on the leaks having hardware ProRes on the cheapest mac is a huge step forward
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But, lets face it...the best "testers" of the M2...will be us. I want to see how M2 impact my workflow and everything else
Based on the leaks having hardware ProRes on the cheapest mac is a huge step forward
Embargo has lifted. Benchmarks are out.
www.theverge.com
Apple MacBook Pro 13 (2022) review: new chip, old threads
The M2 is as good as everyone expected it to be.
Still useless graphics performance. 60fps is desirable while it can't even break bare minimum 30fps but costs more than gaming laptops that do 90+fps.
M2
Shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark (1920 x 1200, highest) 29fps
M1
Shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark (1920 x 1200, highest) 20fps
M2
Shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark (1920 x 1200, highest) 29fps
M1
Shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark (1920 x 1200, highest) 20fps
You would be very, very foolish to buy any Mac primarily as a gaming machine. The GPU has a plenty of uses outside of gaming of course.
So in other words, on paper, the MBP "13 is a bizarre space with the reviewer acknowledging that if the MBA doesn't do certain things, the whole line-up makes sense?Embargo has lifted. Benchmarks are out.
Apple MacBook Pro 13 (2022) review: new chip, old threads
The M2 is as good as everyone expected it to be.
I can see where this is going. I however do think that the M2 MBA will throttle the same if not a bit earlier than the M1 MBA.
I have a razer gaming machine that gets like 180fps here and its the loudest machine in my entire house. My dad thought the air conditioner was broken, but it was just my gaming laptop at full blast 3 rooms away.
So there is your difference.
Yeah, it either needs to get updated, or else discontinued. However, I suspect they are keeping it around for now because it still sells very well, and they'll capture a lot of sales in the Back-To-School sale too, which starts this week. IIRC, it's their number #2 selling Mac overall actually.
It does need a few love updates, but discontinued is not on the table. It sells too well for Apple, something which naysayers on this Mac on this site have simply chosen to ignore.
I have a feeling that Apple left it in due to the MBA throttling.
Very interesting benchmarks. It looks like the chip performance between the M2 vs. the binned 8-core M1 Pro is basically a wash. The gain/biggest difference is in the faster RAM of the M1 Pro.
Good to see the verge up to it's usual quality.Embargo has lifted. Benchmarks are out.
Apple MacBook Pro 13 (2022) review: new chip, old threads
The M2 is as good as everyone expected it to be.
According to their review a 4k export took 2 minutes longer on the M2 than the M1. Lol. Curious about their Cinebench single core score too. We all know its a junk benchmark, but I'd seen single core scores of ~1700.
Shadow of the Tomb Raider 1920x1200 high = 52fps. Pretty respectable for an ultra portable.
Still...it gives the usual malcontents something to complain about on here.
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Sounds like user error. 5950x/6800 gets 193fps @ 1200p highest and virtually silent with just two air coolers in mini ITX case.
What bugged me about that article is they talk about the 8-core M1 Pro, but the tests are actually using the 10-core M1 Pro. Also they don't spell out what all the tests are.
Unfortunately, they don't tell us what that test is, so nobody can try to replicate it.
Well, Cinebench is a good performance bench of... Cinema 4D.
That's what the bench was created for after all.The 10-core M1 Pro is still significantly faster, but yeah, the binned 8-core M1 Pro is very similar in performance. The other thing is that M2 gets ProRes acceleration, just like M1 Pro.
It will be interesting to see some M1 vs. M2 vs M1 Pro tests with ProRes footage. (Not that I use ProRes, but I'm just curious.)
You meant to say media encoder performance can still be useful even though GPU is useless. If a GPU does poorly with gaming then it tends to do poorly with other GPU tasks like rendering, GPU compute, etc.
Blender BMW GPU
16.39s - Nvidia 3060 70W mobile (GPU OptiX Blender 3.2)
2m18s - M2 10GPU guestimate
3m19.97s - MBA M1 7GPU (GPU Metal Blender 3.2)
52fps in Shadow of the Tomb Raider at high and ever increasing perfromance in Blender, as they work on it, seems better than useless to me. I guess it depends how out of touch with reality you are. No offence.
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User error. Common sense if pushing desktop fps through confined space of laptop that it's going to be louder. Pushing Macbook or even Mac Studio to 180fps will be worse if not impossible. Anyone with common sense that doesn't need max fps knows how to use performance profiles such as balanced or quiet mode. Or, use Nvidia tool to set max fps universally or per game to balance fps and fan speed. 90fps or 60fps should be quiet and you don't need more than that for a game like Shadow of the Tomb Raider.
Razer is showing ~58 dB while MBP can hit ~75 dB and is still significantly slower.
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Completely wrong about the M1 machines as usual but interesting to get yet another confirmation that pc laptops struggle to deliver full performance and stay quiet/maintain good battery life. Thanks!User error. Common sense if pushing desktop fps through confined space of laptop that it's going to be louder. Pushing Macbook or even Mac Studio to 180fps will be worse if not impossible. Anyone with common sense that doesn't need max fps knows how to use performance profiles such as balanced or quiet mode. Or, use Nvidia tool to set max fps universally or per game to balance fps and fan speed. 90fps or 60fps should be quiet and you don't need more than that for a game like Shadow of the Tomb Raider.
A wash? Did we both read the same review?
We’re going to talk about benchmarks later on, but I’ll spoil the surprise right now: as everyone expected, the M1 Pro smokes the M2 in most cases. It’s close to doubling its scores on some of our usual benchmark tests — it’s performing more than twice as well on others. It is easily $300 better for professional work.
Not bad for something that can comfortably fit inside an envelope (M2 MacBook Air when it comes out)
While The Verge used the 10-core M1 Pro, we can extrapolate the performance. The 8-core would be about 25% slower in multi-threaded benchmarks. That still puts it 10-15% faster than M2 and over 50% faster for GPU tasks due to the cores and memory bandwidth.
What is this nonsense? Lol.User error. Common sense if pushing desktop fps through confined space of laptop that it's going to be louder. Pushing Macbook or even Mac Studio to 180fps will be worse if not impossible. Anyone with common sense that doesn't need max fps knows how to use performance profiles such as balanced or quiet mode. Or, use Nvidia tool to set max fps universally or per game to balance fps and fan speed. 90fps or 60fps should be quiet and you don't need more than that for a game like Shadow of the Tomb Raider.
Razer is showing ~58 dB while MBP can hit ~75 dB and is still significantly slower.
The first video shows the fans ARTIFICALLY put on max using TG pro, due to M1 being so efficient. The host is also using his phone to measure the sound level by resting the phone on the screen…right beside the fan vent.
The Pc video used a much better mic, from a distance measuring a computer during use.
Spectacularly poor effort….0/10….would mock again
They don’t say it, but the benchmarks in the article for the M1 Pro are from the 10/16 configuration, not the binned chip. Looking at previous Geekbench scores for the 8/14, the M2 performance is definitely within striking distance - close enough where most users wouldn’t notice, unless the Air throttling becomes an issue. The performance of the GPU tests and anything related to RAM look like a much bigger gap.
Even with the 8C chip, you're seeing a 10-15% jump. One of the biggest advantage for M1 Pro is the SSD controller and the results show it's twice as fast as the M2. This is one of the reasons some of the 4K export numbers have such a big difference.